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Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2007, 03:48:53 PM »
Is there a rule in the US that you cant have a relationship with someone in the same company?

Stew's mentioned the company had rules about staff "fraternising" with "subordinates". Most large companies have similar rules, but have a relaxed attitude to them - until someone raises the question, for instance about promotions, then they have their harris covered.
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« Reply #76 on: November 20, 2007, 03:50:28 PM »
in most companies, people in a relationship can not work in the same area of responsibility. On lady just joined our company from another as they had hired her husband as the head of US sales from another role. Her sales would fall under his reporting structure so she either had to move to another post or resign.

when relationships form on the job, it can get complex (in more ways than one) but most big companies put rules in place to review them to make sure that it wont impact the company. If they are reported, in nearly every company I do business with their are very illicit and complicated affairs going on all over the place...
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Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Reply #77 on: November 20, 2007, 03:50:56 PM »
I  just can't believe that the "injured" party in this, ie the woman who was groped, is being punished so harshly.  

She lied about getting groped by her boss and by doing so discredited me, she is not being punished harshly rois. Why is it ok to hut an innocent party? forget that it is me, why is that ok?
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« Reply #78 on: November 20, 2007, 03:51:36 PM »
Haven’t read all the posts, but FFS! A girl and bloke out at night for a few drinks and a bit of craic and their manager from work approaches them and tells them to curtail their behaviour? Maybe you should set up CCTV cameras in your employees’ bedrooms to make sure they aren’t having sex with bicycles at night. Mind your own business you nosey fecker.

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« Reply #79 on: November 20, 2007, 03:57:50 PM »
Haven’t read all the posts, but FFS! A girl and bloke out at night for a few drinks and a bit of craic and their manager from work approaches them and tells them to curtail their behaviour? Maybe you should set up CCTV cameras in your employees’ bedrooms to make sure they aren’t having sex with bicycles at night. Mind your own business you nosey fecker.

read the posts before spouting shite then Donagh. maybe it will make sense to you when you are educated on the feckin subject matter before running off at the bake.
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« Reply #80 on: November 20, 2007, 04:00:58 PM »
Haven’t read all the posts, but FFS! A girl and bloke out at night for a few drinks and a bit of craic and their manager from work approaches them and tells them to curtail their behaviour? Maybe you should set up CCTV cameras in your employees’ bedrooms to make sure they aren’t having sex with bicycles at night. Mind your own business you nosey fecker.

Well maybe you should read all the posts then before proffering an opinion? Whether they want to shag the living daylights out of one another while covered in marmalade is neither here nor there in the context of what happened.
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« Reply #81 on: November 20, 2007, 04:01:44 PM »
Just read them all there in the meantime. Makes no difference. You on some sort of power kick or just jealous? Was outside of work hours and none of your business. You’re lucky you didn’t get a well deserved slap in mouth.

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« Reply #82 on: November 20, 2007, 04:04:08 PM »
Haven’t read all the posts, but FFS! A girl and bloke out at night for a few drinks and a bit of craic and their manager from work approaches them and tells them to curtail their behaviour? Maybe you should set up CCTV cameras in your employees’ bedrooms to make sure they aren’t having sex with bicycles at night. Mind your own business you nosey fecker.

Well maybe you should read all the posts then before proffering an opinion? Whether they want to shag the living daylights out of one another while covered in marmalade is neither here nor there in the context of what happened.

What context? Two people of their own free will were messing about outside of work hours and some little Hitler from the office on a power trip starts mouthing off?

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« Reply #83 on: November 20, 2007, 04:06:39 PM »
Just read them all there in the meantime. Makes no difference. You on some sort of power kick or just jealous? Was outside of work hours and none of your business. You’re lucky you didn’t get a well deserved slap in mouth.

So he should just ignore the complaints from his two other staff members? Let them go to HR, reporting they lodged a complaint with him, not only that but he witnessed it too, putting his own job at risk? Never mind the fact your man would have tried to make a liar of him? Right enough.
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« Reply #84 on: November 20, 2007, 04:13:10 PM »
So he should just ignore the complaints from his two other staff members? Let them go to HR, reporting they lodged a complaint with him, not only that but he witnessed it too, putting his own job at risk? Never mind the fact your man would have tried to make a liar of him? Right enough.

Aye, if that actually did happen I'd tell them to feck off as well. Wasn't in work time so had feck all to do with him or anyone else. Tell them to stick their nosey, Yankee, I'm owned by the company, Big Brother loving noses somewhere else. While you're at it tell them to get the f**k out of Iraq and Afghanistan, that's none of their business either. f**king Yanks. WTF?

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« Reply #85 on: November 20, 2007, 04:15:12 PM »
So he should just ignore the complaints from his two other staff members? Let them go to HR, reporting they lodged a complaint with him, not only that but he witnessed it too, putting his own job at risk? Never mind the fact your man would have tried to make a liar of him? Right enough.

Aye, if that actually did happen I'd tell them to feck off as well. Wasn't in work time so had feck all to do with him or anyone else. Tell them to stick their nosey, Yankee, I'm owned by the company, Big Brother loving noses somewhere else. While you're at it tell them to get the f**k out of Iraq and Afghanistan, that's none of their business either. f**king Yanks. WTF?

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« Reply #86 on: November 20, 2007, 04:17:49 PM »
She lied about getting groped by her boss and by doing so discredited me, she is not being punished harshly rois. Why is it ok to hut an innocent party? forget that it is me, why is that ok?

I'll refer you to what I said in my earlier post - now I'm just thinking along the same lines as someone who has been at the receiving end of some unwanted advances very recently at a work do, not from a colleague but from a potential client.

...she's obviously good friends with him as well, she must not have been overly offended at his actions and understandably probably thinks that it's up to her whether it goes any further or not...


I can see that you're upset that she has implied you're lying and I understand why.  Has she formally communicated that you've "lied" to HR?  
I expect a manager to have some element of people skills and to empathise as far as possible - from what I've read on here, you've just jumped immediately to the defensive of your own position instead of trying to see things from her side and trying to exmplain to her the implications of what she's said.  The fact that she texted you to try to sort it out suggest that she is possibly beginning to understand, and that you refused to discuss it reflects rather badly in my opinion on your role as her manager.

Will caveat all of this by saying that there's obviously details that we don't know on here, and only you know the individual circumstances Stew.  

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« Reply #87 on: November 20, 2007, 04:22:08 PM »
Haven’t read all the posts, but FFS! A girl and bloke out at night for a few drinks and a bit of craic and their manager from work approaches them and tells them to curtail their behaviour? Maybe you should set up CCTV cameras in your employees’ bedrooms to make sure they aren’t having sex with bicycles at night. Mind your own business you nosey fecker.

Well maybe you should read all the posts then before proffering an opinion? Whether they want to shag the living daylights out of one another while covered in marmalade is neither here nor there in the context of what happened.

What context? Two people of their own free will were messing about outside of work hours and some little Hitler from the office on a power trip starts mouthing off?

"None of your business pal, now us all a favour and  f**k off"

What context? Two people of their own free will were messing about outside of work hours and some little Hitler from the office on a power trip starts mouthing off?

"None of your business pal, now us all a favour and  f**k off"
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Dead on, so I will ignore the complaints from their co-workers, forgewt the fact that they sent me the video, I wont go to HR and I will get sacked and hurt my own family because Donagh thinks I am a jealous nazi.

I am going to loook after number one, I was prepared to try and work with him and instead he fcuked me. if you cant see that you are a monkey Donagh and if he had tried to hit me a slap I would have broke his two f**king legs.

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Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Reply #88 on: November 20, 2007, 04:24:41 PM »
She lied about getting groped by her boss and by doing so discredited me, she is not being punished harshly rois. Why is it ok to hut an innocent party? forget that it is me, why is that ok?

I'll refer you to what I said in my earlier post - now I'm just thinking along the same lines as someone who has been at the receiving end of some unwanted advances very recently at a work do, not from a colleague but from a potential client.

...she's obviously good friends with him as well, she must not have been overly offended at his actions and understandably probably thinks that it's up to her whether it goes any further or not...


I can see that you're upset that she has implied you're lying and I understand why.  Has she formally communicated that you've "lied" to HR?  
I expect a manager to have some element of people skills and to empathise as far as possible - from what I've read on here, you've just jumped immediately to the defensive of your own position instead of trying to see things from her side and trying to exmplain to her the implications of what she's said.  The fact that she texted you to try to sort it out suggest that she is possibly beginning to understand, and that you refused to discuss it reflects rather badly in my opinion on your role as her manager.

Will caveat all of this by saying that there's obviously details that we don't know on here, and only you know the individual circumstances Stew.  


I explained the circumstances, do you not think I tried??? she stuck to the story and given the complaints from others I did what i had to do. I am not going to fall on the sword while they make me out to be liars.

She admitted that i wasnt lying to HR. Thats all she would say.
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Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Reply #89 on: November 20, 2007, 04:26:19 PM »
You still going to walk her down the aisle stew?
What about her fiance?