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Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Reply #6720 on: September 14, 2020, 11:54:14 AM »
Anyone supporting the showing of the film "Cuties" on Netflix.

Hopefully such folk aren't involved with any youth groups.

I assume you have watched it and can explain why you want it banned. Surely you arent repeating a moral panic you read elsewhere

If it's not evident to you why it should be banned not much point in debating it.

That approach might work on Qanon where the campaign started. You want something you haven't seen banned and can't explain why.

If you think it's harmless Baile explain to me why it shouldn't be banned.

Its not up to me to explain why something shouldn't be banned. Its up to you to justify why it should. You admit you haven't seen it, so you are following others, and the campaign statred in a very dark place

Campaign started in a very dark place? The filming of this started in a very dark place and is still there.

Hoping the authorities are taking note of those watching it.

Its a Qanon conspiracy theory, obseesed with peados that lot.

You still haven't bothered with the why bit. Just trust you?

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Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Reply #6721 on: September 14, 2020, 12:12:59 PM »

Campaign started in a very dark place? The filming of this started in a very dark place and is still there.

Hoping the authorities are taking note of those watching it.

Its a Qanon conspiracy theory, obseesed with peados that lot.

You still haven't bothered with the why bit. Just trust you?

The same was probably said about Johnny Rotten in 1978 when he dared mention the rumours surrounding Jimmy Savile. How could a dirty, and probably paedo obsessed, punk like Rotten attack a national treasure?
https://louderthanwar.com/interesting-1978-clip-of-johnny-rotten-warning-about-jimmy-savile/
« Last Edit: September 14, 2020, 12:36:24 PM by five points »

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« Reply #6722 on: September 14, 2020, 01:25:41 PM »

Campaign started in a very dark place? The filming of this started in a very dark place and is still there.

Hoping the authorities are taking note of those watching it.

Its a Qanon conspiracy theory, obseesed with peados that lot.

You still haven't bothered with the why bit. Just trust you?

The same was probably said about Johnny Rotten in 1978 when he dared mention the rumours surrounding Jimmy Savile. How could a dirty, and probably paedo obsessed, punk like Rotten attack a national treasure?
https://louderthanwar.com/interesting-1978-clip-of-johnny-rotten-warning-about-jimmy-savile/

Which means what?

Plenty of at-the-time unsupported allegations have turned out to be true. Plenty more have not.

Should each case not be taken on its merits?

If Roesider is pontificating on the WTF thread that we should all be outraged about this film (and he/she may well be correct), is it not fair to ask him/her exactly what the problem is?
« Last Edit: September 14, 2020, 01:27:24 PM by J70 »

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« Reply #6723 on: September 14, 2020, 01:51:04 PM »
I see that the PSNI have scooped the dickhead that may have let a young child to drive his lorry along the M1. 🤯 Wab

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/belfast-news/young-boy-driving-lorry-video-18919244#ICID=Android_BelfastLiveNewsApp_AppShare

What the f**k is wrong with people?

I don’t know what is more stupid: allowing a lad to drive a lorry or putting the video of it online.

There's another video doing the rounds of a wee girl driving a lorry as well. The Da is in the video.

Thick as shít.

Seen, what the f**k is wrong with these people?
Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)

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« Reply #6724 on: September 14, 2020, 02:04:14 PM »
Which means what?

...

Should each case not be taken on its merits?


It means exactly this: Each case should indeed be taken on its merits.

It's ridiculous and dangerous to dismiss public concerns because of where they first originated.


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« Reply #6725 on: September 14, 2020, 02:23:14 PM »
Which means what?

...

Should each case not be taken on its merits?


It means exactly this: Each case should indeed be taken on its merits.

It's ridiculous and dangerous to dismiss public concerns because of where they first originated.

Yes, a broken clock is right twice a day. However, its perfectly valid to harbour strong doubts and suspicions of the motives and authenticity of claims originating from movements like QAnon.


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« Reply #6726 on: September 14, 2020, 02:33:29 PM »
Which means what?

...

Should each case not be taken on its merits?


It means exactly this: Each case should indeed be taken on its merits.

It's ridiculous and dangerous to dismiss public concerns because of where they first originated.

Yes, a broken clock is right twice a day. However, its perfectly valid to harbour strong doubts and suspicions of the motives and authenticity of claims originating from movements like QAnon.

There are better hills to die on than defending or equivocating about child pornography.

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« Reply #6727 on: September 14, 2020, 02:43:33 PM »
Which means what?

...

Should each case not be taken on its merits?


It means exactly this: Each case should indeed be taken on its merits.

It's ridiculous and dangerous to dismiss public concerns because of where they first originated.

Yes, a broken clock is right twice a day. However, its perfectly valid to harbour strong doubts and suspicions of the motives and authenticity of claims originating from movements like QAnon.

There are better hills to die on than defending or equivocating about child pornography.

Was anyone defending or equivocating about child pornography?

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« Reply #6728 on: September 14, 2020, 03:07:21 PM »
Yes, the poster who dismissed the Cuties furore as "a Qanon conspiracy theory". And now you with your " perfectly valid to harbour strong doubts and suspicions of the motives and authenticity of claims originating from movements like QAnon" apologia.

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« Reply #6729 on: September 14, 2020, 04:08:38 PM »
Yes, the poster who dismissed the Cuties furore as "a Qanon conspiracy theory". And now you with your " perfectly valid to harbour strong doubts and suspicions of the motives and authenticity of claims originating from movements like QAnon" apologia.

I'll let the other lad speak for himself, on second thoughts.

But please do elaborate on how my statements are "apologia" for child pornography.

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« Reply #6730 on: September 14, 2020, 04:47:48 PM »
Yes, the poster who dismissed the Cuties furore as "a Qanon conspiracy theory". And now you with your " perfectly valid to harbour strong doubts and suspicions of the motives and authenticity of claims originating from movements like QAnon" apologia.

I don't think you understand the word 'aplogia'.

I simply asked why the poster wanted to have something banned and the proposer was unable to answer. We now apparantly have Netflix showing 'child porn'.

You are jumping aboard a Qanon bandwagon without bothering to do research and then the Qanon trick that anyone who questions you is a paedo apologist.

Try harder, you aren't on 4cham or stormfront.

So you are now the wtf.

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Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Reply #6731 on: September 15, 2020, 01:03:27 AM »
Which means what?

...

Should each case not be taken on its merits?


It means exactly this: Each case should indeed be taken on its merits.

It's ridiculous and dangerous to dismiss public concerns because of where they first originated.

Yes, a broken clock is right twice a day. However, its perfectly valid to harbour strong doubts and suspicions of the motives and authenticity of claims originating from movements like QAnon.

There are better hills to die on than defending or equivocating about child pornography.

Was anyone defending or equivocating about child pornography?

There are those who feel that it's a topic that needs investigation. Why that is the case is a different matter.

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« Reply #6732 on: September 15, 2020, 01:09:20 AM »
Yes, the poster who dismissed the Cuties furore as "a Qanon conspiracy theory". And now you with your " perfectly valid to harbour strong doubts and suspicions of the motives and authenticity of claims originating from movements like QAnon" apologia.

I don't think you understand the word 'aplogia'.

I simply asked why the poster wanted to have something banned and the proposer was unable to answer. We now apparantly have Netflix showing 'child porn'.

You are jumping aboard a Qanon bandwagon without bothering to do research and then the Qanon trick that anyone who questions you is a paedo apologist.

Try harder, you aren't on 4cham or stormfront.

So you are now the wtf.

What are you going on about? I already answered. There should be no need for any grouping (internet or otherwise) to tell you that films containing pre-teen girls in skimpy clothes with close up body shots is disturbing.

If people want to justify their reason for watching is down to not giving in to qanon then they can continue to convince themselves of that. maybe after their 10th viewing they will start to understand the intellectual arguments behind what the director was attempting to portray.  ::)
« Last Edit: September 15, 2020, 01:20:07 AM by Roesider »

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« Reply #6733 on: September 15, 2020, 01:16:02 AM »
Yes, the poster who dismissed the Cuties furore as "a Qanon conspiracy theory". And now you with your " perfectly valid to harbour strong doubts and suspicions of the motives and authenticity of claims originating from movements like QAnon" apologia.

I don't think you understand the word 'aplogia'.

I simply asked why the poster wanted to have something banned and the proposer was unable to answer. We now apparantly have Netflix showing 'child porn'.

You are jumping aboard a Qanon bandwagon without bothering to do research and then the Qanon trick that anyone who questions you is a paedo apologist.

Try harder, you aren't on 4cham or stormfront.

So you are now the wtf.
I have researched it. Look up the definition of the  term "child porn". It includes simulations of sexual acts by and involving minors.

You seem more annoyed by 4chan and Qanon than by this crap.

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« Reply #6734 on: September 15, 2020, 01:56:04 AM »
Yes, the poster who dismissed the Cuties furore as "a Qanon conspiracy theory". And now you with your " perfectly valid to harbour strong doubts and suspicions of the motives and authenticity of claims originating from movements like QAnon" apologia.

I don't think you understand the word 'aplogia'.

I simply asked why the poster wanted to have something banned and the proposer was unable to answer. We now apparantly have Netflix showing 'child porn'.

You are jumping aboard a Qanon bandwagon without bothering to do research and then the Qanon trick that anyone who questions you is a paedo apologist.

Try harder, you aren't on 4cham or stormfront.

So you are now the wtf.

What are you going on about? I already answered. There should be no need for any grouping (internet or otherwise) to tell you that films containing pre-teen girls in skimpy clothes with close up body shots is disturbing.

If people want to justify their reason for watching is down to not giving in to qanon then they can continue to convince themselves of that. maybe after their 10th viewing they will start to understand the intellectual arguments behind what the director was attempting to portray.  ::)

The only thing I know about this film is the discussion on this thread. You may be right that it is child porn, although you haven’t offered much of an argument. I’m arguing the principle.

Grown adults can make and watch films/documentaries about disturbing subjects without it serving the purpose of titillation. Did anyone watch Schindler’s List ten times for sexual kicks because it depicts Jewish Holocaust victims stripped naked on their way to the “showers”? Or are most people mature enough to see the scene as a true-to-life depiction of the depravity and inhumanity of the Nazis?