Things that make you go What the F**k?

[JPGJOHNNYG]

Go for the tin hats, stop the tracking!

The framing of it as a "Britcard" won't help sell the idea to Scottish or Irish Nationalists, or Welsh if there is any..

True, but I doubt that though entered the conversation! Alot more votes in Brexity England.

Doubt that'll be a vote winner with the Brexit brigade, basically an open goal for Farage. Looking worryingly like a Reform government the next time

Reform government should finally push the others here into pro UI

[Munchie]

Embrace it, for the majority what matters, family and health, why stress for things out of your control.

When did you  last embrace anything dreamt up by  the British government?

Perhaps you'd like to  embrace their legacy act  while you're at  it?

Sweet Mother of God. You were born, someone within 2 weeks registered your birth, you were then registered on a database for Health Care, you got a national insurance number where you were 16 and placed on another database, you passed exams and were put on another database, got a driving licence onto another database, started paying tax more information for the government, a passport there you go again, the list goes on, the premise however misguided you believe it to be is to cut down on folk working when they aren't entitled to. Explain how it will impact you having an extra piece of ID?

Maybe you should ask  the Chinese  how their social credit system impacts them. That's clearly  where this is heading. 

If I start  a job , I'll bring in my NI Card,  take a flight I'll show a passport. If I want  to vote, I use  a  drivers license/passport.  That entities me to work legally ,  fly  to another country and vote . That's enough. Why would I need  an ID card in my pocket everywhere I go, when  I can live without  showing this sort of ID  , bar 2 or 3 times a year?

NI numbers have been  around for decades , yet there's  still people working illegally. So  having a brit card  won't stop that.

PS. You still didn't. answer my question

       That's your line of attack, I repeat Sweet Mother of God! As for the other tin hat stuff, as another poster has pointed out NI numbers were just a plastic card now just a number on a letter as for the Chinese I don't have their number to give them a bell, they also don't have a democracy so not sure of your point.

[AustinPowers]

Embrace it, for the majority what matters, family and health, why stress for things out of your control.

When did you  last embrace anything dreamt up by  the British government?

Perhaps you'd like to  embrace their legacy act  while you're at  it?

Sweet Mother of God. You were born, someone within 2 weeks registered your birth, you were then registered on a database for Health Care, you got a national insurance number where you were 16 and placed on another database, you passed exams and were put on another database, got a driving licence onto another database, started paying tax more information for the government, a passport there you go again, the list goes on, the premise however misguided you believe it to be is to cut down on folk working when they aren't entitled to. Explain how it will impact you having an extra piece of ID?

Maybe you should ask  the Chinese  how their social credit system impacts them. That's clearly  where this is heading. 

If I start  a job , I'll bring in my NI Card,  take a flight I'll show a passport. If I want  to vote, I use  a  drivers license/passport.  That entities me to work legally ,  fly  to another country and vote . That's enough. Why would I need  an ID card in my pocket everywhere I go, when  I can live without  showing this sort of ID  , bar 2 or 3 times a year?

NI numbers have been  around for decades , yet there's  still people working illegally. So  having a brit card  won't stop that.

PS. You still didn't. answer my question

       That's your line of attack, I repeat Sweet Mother of God! As for the other tin hat stuff, as another poster has pointed out NI numbers were just a plastic card now just a number on a letter as for the Chinese I don't have their number to give them a bell, they also don't have a democracy so not sure of your point.

What "Other tin hat stuff" would  that be?

Illegal immigrants could  still work cash in hand (while  we still have cash). No ID or  NI number needed there.  No reason why that won't continue , ID card  or not. If there's really a  problem with illegal workers , then it's  the employers  you need to  look at.

[AustinPowers]

Embrace it, for the majority what matters, family and health, why stress for things out of your control.

When did you  last embrace anything dreamt up by  the British government?

Perhaps you'd like to  embrace their legacy act  while you're at  it?

You support a British team, you speak and write in English, you live unfortunately for us, in a uk state and get paid in Sterling. You've embraced that ok, You also have already a fully fledged digital footprint whether you like it or not

You are not going to fix the ills or problems of today, you have one vote, that's your lot.

You also have one life with a family that are, or should be more important that the shit going around, that you have literally no control of, so embrace the small time we have on this planet, it's ok to have a moan about life and the injustices, but unless you're a billionaire or a world leader you don't count other than that one vote you have.

I follow a PL team. The rest  was forced on  us.

I  don't know  about you, but  I speak Hiberno-English.

[Munchie]

Your country of birth, your sex at birth, your environment at birth means a lot if forced onto everyone, choosing to following an English team is a conscious decision.