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« Reply #6540 on: June 04, 2019, 01:20:31 PM »
Rumours on facebook about AJ

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Anthony Joshua 's father has publicly stated that Joshua suffered a panic attack in his dressing room before the fight, delaying his ring walk. His Father asked Eddie Hearn to call the fight off as Joshua didn't look well and his father felt something was wrong.

Eddie Hearn responded by saying "He will be fine when he get's in the ring"

This is the reason Anthony Joshua's father confronted Hearn in the ring after the fight and words were exchanged.

I've seen alot flying about regarding the confrontation between Eddie and AJs dad and the reason for it is this according to Anthony's father who has spoken to media.

Anthony Joshua was also knocked out in sparring by European champion kabayel who is 19 wins 0 losses days before he fought Ruiz and his father had wanted Hearn to cancel the fight in the days leading up to it but allegedly Hearn talked them in to taking the fight.

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Apparently he was dropped in sparring hence the bruise on the face last week which he weirdly blamed on his physio:

https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/28/anthony-joshua-reveals-got-shiner-ahead-andy-ruiz-jr-showdown-9700282/

 The fella that dropped him was Joey Dawejko who was brought in as he had a similar shape to Ruiz Jr.  It would seem to make sense given the reaction of Joshua's da after the fight.  Apparently he had suffered concussion due to the sparring incident and the fight should have been cancelled but wasn't. 
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« Reply #6541 on: June 05, 2019, 03:22:31 PM »
A bigger flaw in my opinion is a reluctance to give a round 10/10, most of us watching will have a couple of rounds even while the judges seem to be intructed to find a winner in each round. Take Katie's fight last night not one of the judges saw fit to give a shared round which in a close fight is mindboggling
That's not a flaw in the rules, the voting system allows for judge  to award a 10/10. However it's in the rules that as long as boxer stays standing, at least 9 points is awarded regardless.
Unless the rule has changed recently 10-8 rounds can be given without a knockdown (a fighter completely dominates his opponent but the opponent doesn't go down).
It doesn't have to be 10-9, 10-8 etc. either. A round can be scored 9-8 for example if a fighter knocks down his opponent but also gets a point deducted.
I have already posted a link where the voting system is explained
https://tinyurl.com/y49ap4nu
13.Scores can vary from the usual 10-9 outcome. If Fighter A knocks down Fighter B, the round is scored 10-8 to Fighter A. If there is a second knockdown, it is scored 10-7.

Not an expert in boxing but I don't know what all the excitement is about. I thought Taylor won 5 of the first 6 rounds. She possibly lost the last 4 although I think maybe round 7 was a draw. It was a close fight and it was scored that way. I thought her opponent threw a lot of wild punches and did a lot of pushing which looks great but doesn't and shouldn't score points. Taylor picked her off a lot but not with massive power but clean and accurate. I don't get the controversy to be honest.

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Re: Boxing Thread
« Reply #6542 on: June 05, 2019, 10:09:38 PM »
My thoughts too. I had her winning by 2/3 rounds.

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« Reply #6543 on: June 05, 2019, 10:32:30 PM »
Would you agree though that enough informed people thought she didn't win? I mean not people like me on here but commentators, journos and ex boxers. Immediately after fight I said I thought Belgian girl was robbed but in hindsight it certainly wasn't the worst decision I ever saw. I don't think there is that much controversy about it? Just a contentious decision that more people disagree with than agree with, it happens in boxing .

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« Reply #6544 on: June 05, 2019, 10:36:34 PM »
Would you agree though that enough informed people thought she didn't win? I mean not people like me on here but commentators, journos and ex boxers. Immediately after fight I said I thought Belgian girl was robbed but in hindsight it certainly wasn't the worst decision I ever saw. I don't think there is that much controversy about it? Just a contentious decision that more people disagree with than agree with, it happens in boxing .

Yeh that's the odd thing. Andy Lee on offtheball gave a commentary on It that I agree with myself.

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« Reply #6545 on: June 06, 2019, 12:00:13 AM »
Would you agree though that enough informed people thought she didn't win? I mean not people like me on here but commentators, journos and ex boxers. Immediately after fight I said I thought Belgian girl was robbed but in hindsight it certainly wasn't the worst decision I ever saw. I don't think there is that much controversy about it? Just a contentious decision that more people disagree with than agree with, it happens in boxing .

Yeh that's the odd thing. Andy Lee on offtheball gave a commentary on It that I agree with myself.

Simple. Have a rematch. Listen to your coach. Utilise your superior boxing and school her. Don't get sucked into a fight. Pace yourself, it's 10 rounds not 3 or 4.
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« Reply #6546 on: June 09, 2019, 04:21:48 PM »
A bigger flaw in my opinion is a reluctance to give a round 10/10, most of us watching will have a couple of rounds even while the judges seem to be intructed to find a winner in each round. Take Katie's fight last night not one of the judges saw fit to give a shared round which in a close fight is mindboggling
That's not a flaw in the rules, the voting system allows for judge  to award a 10/10. However it's in the rules that as long as boxer stays standing, at least 9 points is awarded regardless.
Unless the rule has changed recently 10-8 rounds can be given without a knockdown (a fighter completely dominates his opponent but the opponent doesn't go down).
It doesn't have to be 10-9, 10-8 etc. either. A round can be scored 9-8 for example if a fighter knocks down his opponent but also gets a point deducted.
I have already posted a link where the voting system is explained
https://tinyurl.com/y49ap4nu
13.Scores can vary from the usual 10-9 outcome. If Fighter A knocks down Fighter B, the round is scored 10-8 to Fighter A. If there is a second knockdown, it is scored 10-7.
That's a very generic overview from The Evening Standard for someone who has no idea how boxing is scored. It's hardly official rules from a governing body. It's also incomplete/incorrect.

As I've stated, you can get 10-8 rounds without a knockdown in boxing. I've seen it happen before.

Pacquiao v De La Hoya
Kovalev v Hopkins

And I think
Mayweather v Gatti
Calzaghe v Lacy

From Wikipedia:

'While uncommon, if a fighter completely dominates a round but does not score a knockdown, a judge can still score that round 10-8'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_boxing
So then if a boxer gets heavily pummeled, they can on rare occasions be docked a point, fair enough. My reference in this thread was the last round of Katie's fight where on the night I would have judged it 10- 8 to the Belgian. It was later reported that Katie got out-punched 28 -10 in the 10th and Persoon's camp are moaning about 10 missing seconds from the start of the round, that had those missing seconds been added on at the end, the ref might have been persuaded to give Katie a standing count, reducing her total score by 3 points.


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« Reply #6547 on: June 09, 2019, 09:16:00 PM »
You said a couple of times that 10-8 was against the rules Main Street  ;D

Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I thought this article from today's Indo suggested that Katie's camp suspect the Belgian girl was drug tainted?
Katie Taylor's drug testing stand means she calls the shots for everyone

https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/boxing/katie-taylors-drug-testing-stand-means-she-calls-the-shots-for-everyone-38195125.html

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Re: Boxing Thread
« Reply #6548 on: June 09, 2019, 09:41:39 PM »
You said a couple of times that 10-8 was against the rules Main Street  ;D

Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I thought this article from today's Indo suggested that Katie's camp suspect the Belgian girl was drug tainted?
Katie Taylor's drug testing stand means she calls the shots for everyone

https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/boxing/katie-taylors-drug-testing-stand-means-she-calls-the-shots-for-everyone-38195125.html

She has asthma and had an issue last year when visited at home by a drug tester, she couldn't urinate as she had only gone before the tester arrived and eventually sent him packing as she had to go on surveillance as part of her job as a cop. She has passed 3 tests since though.
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« Reply #6549 on: June 09, 2019, 09:45:06 PM »
Sure all the athletes have asthma, only reason why Iíve never made it at sport, no asthma
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« Reply #6550 on: June 09, 2019, 09:56:10 PM »
You said a couple of times that 10-8 was against the rules Main Street  ;D

Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I thought this article from today's Indo suggested that Katie's camp suspect the Belgian girl was drug tainted?
Katie Taylor's drug testing stand means she calls the shots for everyone

https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/boxing/katie-taylors-drug-testing-stand-means-she-calls-the-shots-for-everyone-38195125.html

She has asthma and had an issue last year when visited at home by a drug tester, she couldn't urinate as she had only gone before the tester arrived and eventually sent him packing as she had to go on surveillance as part of her job as a cop. She has passed 3 tests since though.

Aye right enough you are quoting straight out of the piece I've linked!!

It was the whole tone of the article, Katie's camps surprise at how strong Persoon was at the end while Katie was gassing. The insistence of Blood and urine tests. The signing up to this volunteer drug testing that every one she fights will have to also sign up to

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« Reply #6551 on: June 15, 2019, 11:53:37 PM »
Anyone watch the Warrington-Galahad fight? Although he was awkward as hell I thought Galahad edged that but not surprised Warrington got the decision in his hometown. On that fight Frampton will be kicking himself and Warrington will struggle against the better champions in the division.

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« Reply #6552 on: June 16, 2019, 12:06:06 AM »
My uninformed opinion was Warrington just

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« Reply #6553 on: June 16, 2019, 12:12:35 AM »
Anyone watch the Warrington-Galahad fight? Although he was awkward as hell I thought Galahad edged that but not surprised Warrington got the decision in his hometown. On that fight Frampton will be kicking himself and Warrington will struggle against the better champions in the division.

Warrington edges it for me too and will probably fare better against the better fighters who are actually prepared to come and fight. Galahad looks like he has all the ability but that was a horrible display of holding and pot shorting. Surely he canít expect to nick a world title in that fashion in the champions back yard.
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« Reply #6554 on: June 16, 2019, 01:26:20 AM »
I agree with the lads above Galahad was awkward and didnít get hit much but didnít bring a whole lot offensively he needed to follow up on Warringtons misses with shots.

Warrington far from his best and Galahad given the rest of the division a glimpse of how he can be beaten!!