Quote from: trileacman on December 31, 2020, 06:28:52 PMQuote from: general_lee on December 31, 2020, 12:34:38 PMQuote from: gallsman on December 31, 2020, 11:57:32 AMQuote from: general_lee on December 31, 2020, 11:41:53 AMAye, the one where clearly starts lunging after the first two shots are fired!Did they hit him? Were they warning shots? You heard the conversation between him and the guards from that video in sure as well?The reality of the matter is that nobody knows exactly what happened yet, but you have already decided you know the full facts of it.I don’t know the full facts. I know enough (as does anyone with any semblance of rational thought) that it was dealt with in the wrong manor.Please tell me what the right way to do this was? From what I see the guards tried a couple of options to diffuse the situation and there’s a video of him clearly lunging at gardai, likely with a knife. I haven’t all the facts but I can’t say from first glance that the guards acted in the wrong.Anything other than riddling him with bullets? How many times did they try tasering him? How many times did they try pepper spray? I find it odd that they were able to reportedly track him for 2 hours but he was only a threat to them/the public when he was at his own front door step. The video shows him lunging at them AFTER the first shot
Quote from: general_lee on December 31, 2020, 12:34:38 PMQuote from: gallsman on December 31, 2020, 11:57:32 AMQuote from: general_lee on December 31, 2020, 11:41:53 AMAye, the one where clearly starts lunging after the first two shots are fired!Did they hit him? Were they warning shots? You heard the conversation between him and the guards from that video in sure as well?The reality of the matter is that nobody knows exactly what happened yet, but you have already decided you know the full facts of it.I don’t know the full facts. I know enough (as does anyone with any semblance of rational thought) that it was dealt with in the wrong manor.Please tell me what the right way to do this was? From what I see the guards tried a couple of options to diffuse the situation and there’s a video of him clearly lunging at gardai, likely with a knife. I haven’t all the facts but I can’t say from first glance that the guards acted in the wrong.
Quote from: gallsman on December 31, 2020, 11:57:32 AMQuote from: general_lee on December 31, 2020, 11:41:53 AMAye, the one where clearly starts lunging after the first two shots are fired!Did they hit him? Were they warning shots? You heard the conversation between him and the guards from that video in sure as well?The reality of the matter is that nobody knows exactly what happened yet, but you have already decided you know the full facts of it.I don’t know the full facts. I know enough (as does anyone with any semblance of rational thought) that it was dealt with in the wrong manor.
Quote from: general_lee on December 31, 2020, 11:41:53 AMAye, the one where clearly starts lunging after the first two shots are fired!Did they hit him? Were they warning shots? You heard the conversation between him and the guards from that video in sure as well?The reality of the matter is that nobody knows exactly what happened yet, but you have already decided you know the full facts of it.
Aye, the one where clearly starts lunging after the first two shots are fired!
Quote from: sid waddell on January 01, 2021, 02:35:26 PMQuote from: general_lee on January 01, 2021, 01:50:22 PMQuote from: trileacman on December 31, 2020, 06:28:52 PMQuote from: general_lee on December 31, 2020, 12:34:38 PMQuote from: gallsman on December 31, 2020, 11:57:32 AMQuote from: general_lee on December 31, 2020, 11:41:53 AMAye, the one where clearly starts lunging after the first two shots are fired!Did they hit him? Were they warning shots? You heard the conversation between him and the guards from that video in sure as well?The reality of the matter is that nobody knows exactly what happened yet, but you have already decided you know the full facts of it.I don’t know the full facts. I know enough (as does anyone with any semblance of rational thought) that it was dealt with in the wrong manor.Please tell me what the right way to do this was? From what I see the guards tried a couple of options to diffuse the situation and there’s a video of him clearly lunging at gardai, likely with a knife. I haven’t all the facts but I can’t say from first glance that the guards acted in the wrong.Anything other than riddling him with bullets? How many times did they try tasering him? How many times did they try pepper spray? I find it odd that they were able to reportedly track him for 2 hours but he was only a threat to them/the public when he was at his own front door step. The video shows him lunging at them AFTER the first shotThere was defo at least one shot previous to the videoAt the very start of the video, ie. the first 0.5 seconds, you can hear the echo from a previous shot - but not the actual bang of the shot Then there are five shots you can hear clearlySo at least six shots fired overallIt makes sense that there would have been previous shots because why would people have started filming from a distance otherwiseIt’s sounds like that alright but that’s unconfirmed. People had been videoing previous to that so perhaps the video has been edited.
Quote from: general_lee on January 01, 2021, 01:50:22 PMQuote from: trileacman on December 31, 2020, 06:28:52 PMQuote from: general_lee on December 31, 2020, 12:34:38 PMQuote from: gallsman on December 31, 2020, 11:57:32 AMQuote from: general_lee on December 31, 2020, 11:41:53 AMAye, the one where clearly starts lunging after the first two shots are fired!Did they hit him? Were they warning shots? You heard the conversation between him and the guards from that video in sure as well?The reality of the matter is that nobody knows exactly what happened yet, but you have already decided you know the full facts of it.I don’t know the full facts. I know enough (as does anyone with any semblance of rational thought) that it was dealt with in the wrong manor.Please tell me what the right way to do this was? From what I see the guards tried a couple of options to diffuse the situation and there’s a video of him clearly lunging at gardai, likely with a knife. I haven’t all the facts but I can’t say from first glance that the guards acted in the wrong.Anything other than riddling him with bullets? How many times did they try tasering him? How many times did they try pepper spray? I find it odd that they were able to reportedly track him for 2 hours but he was only a threat to them/the public when he was at his own front door step. The video shows him lunging at them AFTER the first shotThere was defo at least one shot previous to the videoAt the very start of the video, ie. the first 0.5 seconds, you can hear the echo from a previous shot - but not the actual bang of the shot Then there are five shots you can hear clearlySo at least six shots fired overallIt makes sense that there would have been previous shots because why would people have started filming from a distance otherwise