Are the 'All Blacks' the biggest chokers in world sport?

Started by darbyo, October 07, 2007, 04:10:14 PM

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darbyo

Surely questions have to be asked of mental strenght of the AB's now. They have only won one WC yet have been favourites for all of them, and this in a competition that has only 5/6 truely competitive teams any year.

Uladh

Quote from: darbyo on October 07, 2007, 04:10:14 PM
a competition that has only 5/6 truely competitive teams any year.

how can you say that?

darbyo

Well you're only talking about the tri nation/6 nation teams and Argentina, so that's 10. Now you have to take out Italy, Scotland & Wales as realistic winners (or even being particularly competitive), so you're down to 7. And that's only this years competition, other years Ireland and Argentina were very weak also. Whatever way you cut it NZ start any world cup knowing that only 4/5 teams can realistically beat them and obviously the way the comp. is set up they only have to beat max 3 of them more likely only 2 to win it. For the games powerhouse only having done that on one occasion is surely a poor return. I'm no expert on rugby but they have an immensely talented squad yet were knocked out by the first decent team they met.

GalwayBayBoy

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Mentally they seem a bit weak. How they managed to lose a game where they had 78% possession and dominated the scrums and line-outs only they will know. They just seemed to panic once France got their 2nd try. They had all day to organise a drop-goal attempt straight in front of the French posts and couldn't manage it even though their forwards were making huge yardage through pick and go's.

Guillem2

Loughgiel Shamrocks are the biggest chokers in world sport without a doubt. They've now lost 5 Antrim Senior Hurling finals in a row; most of them from winning positions. They lost to neighbours and local rivals Dunloy, then the mighty Rossa, followed by Cushendall twice and now Dunloy today. They deserve the Biggest Chokers title IMO.
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Bogball XV

Quote from: Uladh on October 07, 2007, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: darbyo on October 07, 2007, 04:10:14 PM
a competition that has only 5/6 truely competitive teams any year.

how can you say that?
Yeah, there are normally less, 4 max?

Balboa

Quote from: Guillem2 on October 07, 2007, 07:50:02 PM
Loughgiel Shamrocks are the biggest chokers in world sport without a doubt. They've now lost 5 Antrim Senior Hurling finals in a row; most of them from winning positions. They lost to neighbours and local rivals Dunloy, then the mighty Rossa, followed by Cushendall twice and now Dunloy today. They deserve the Biggest Chokers title IMO.

Guillem, last year was the only time they were in a "winning position".

stew

Dromintee have done their fair share of choking against Cross, they had the beating of them in multiple cahmpionship games and bottled it. In terms of club football they are right up there with the biggest culprits of choking..
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ExiledGael

Jimmy White probably deserves a mention in the individual stakes

Balboa


Shrewdness

I won't stand for the All Blacks being called the biggest chokers in World Sport!!!!!!.....That honour goes to the Mayo Footballers ;D

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corn02

Was waiting for that Stew, but if a team never goes in as favourites and looses the games are they chokers or have they failed to cause an upster. The All Blacks have been favourites in most of the years they messed up.

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As George Gregan said to the All Blacks after the 2003 semi final when the aussies beat them " 4 more years boys , 4 more years"