Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)

[BennyCake]

Michael O'Neill to Scotland?  On the face if it, it makes sense.  More money, he lives in Scotland and maybe has taken NI as far as he can?

If he  goes, it can only really be for the money.  He will be unlikely to take Scotland any further than last 16 in a Euros or World Cup. Scotland fans also have an over-inflated belief in their team's abilities, so much more pressure too.

Scotland Havnt been to a major tournament in 20 years. For o Neill to get them to the euros, this would undoubtedly add to his reputation.

I don't think it would, particularly as it is now much easier to qualify for the Euros.  Having success at a club team would have a much bigger impact on his reputation. Going to Scotland would be a (lucrative) sideways step.

Is he related to Finn McCool? 

[michaelg]

Michael O'Neill to Scotland?  On the face if it, it makes sense.  More money, he lives in Scotland and maybe has taken NI as far as he can?

If he  goes, it can only really be for the money.  He will be unlikely to take Scotland any further than last 16 in a Euros or World Cup. Scotland fans also have an over-inflated belief in their team's abilities, so much more pressure too.

Didn't mean geographically.

Scotland Havnt been to a major tournament in 20 years. For o Neill to get them to the euros, this would undoubtedly add to his reputation.

I don't think it would, particularly as it is now much easier to qualify for the Euros.  Having success at a club team would have a much bigger impact on his reputation. Going to Scotland would be a (lucrative) sideways step.

Is he related to Finn McCool? 

[stiffler]

Michael O'Neill to Scotland?  On the face if it, it makes sense.  More money, he lives in Scotland and maybe has taken NI as far as he can?

If he  goes, it can only really be for the money.  He will be unlikely to take Scotland any further than last 16 in a Euros or World Cup. Scotland fans also have an over-inflated belief in their team's abilities, so much more pressure too.

Scotland Havnt been to a major tournament in 20 years. For o Neill to get them to the euros, this would undoubtedly add to his reputation.

I don't think it would, particularly as it is now much easier to qualify for the Euros.  Having success at a club team would have a much bigger impact on his reputation. Going to Scotland would be a (lucrative) sideways step.

Would have to disagree on the sideways step. Scotland job would be seen as a upward step (albeit not a great leap) from his current post, and one I don’t think many could blame him for should he take it.

[T Fearon]

Huge potential with the Scotland job,particularly with the supply of talent from Celtic.Brilliant fans,bigger stadium,he lives there,it's a no brainer

[michaelg]

Huge potential with the Scotland job,particularly with the supply of talent from Celtic.Brilliant fans,bigger stadium,he lives there,it's a no brainer

Interesting how you spend your time on here trolling Nationalists and Republicans about your apparent belief in a semi-autonomus state of Northern Ireland, yet spend the rest of your time trolling NI fans on social media.  You would imagine that, given your support of the former, you would support the NI football team.

[Rossfan]

Huge potential with the Scotland job,particularly with the supply of talent from Celtic.Brilliant fans,bigger stadium,he lives there,it's a no brainer

Interesting how you spend your time on here trolling Nationalists and Republicans about your apparent belief in a semi-autonomus state of Northern Ireland, yet spend the rest of your time trolling NI fans on social media.  You would imagine that, given your support of the former, you would support the NI football team.

 

[T Fearon]

MW A football team like the current IFA one,using exclusively Unionist symbols and whose fans add the No Surrender lyric to the National Anthem they steal from the English team,would be obsolete in any independent North.Indeed that is the whole point of making the North independent, i.e. Removing the competing allegiances to two different sovereign territories,neither of whom wants nor understands us,and which causes such division and dysfunction,and will always make one community a winner and the other a loser,in their own psyches.

By the way I experienced the unrelenting sectarianism of Windsor Park (after a gap of 20 years) at the recent Linfield V Celtic tie.It was so bad a guy I knew asked the stewards to escort him and his grown up sons out of the stadium early in the second half,and took shameful abuse on the way out when the penny finally dropped with the hordes of the reason for his escort to the exit

[michaelg]

MW A football team like the current IFA one,using exclusively Unionist symbols and whose fans add the No Surrender lyric to the National Anthem they steal from the English team,would be obsolete in any independent North.Indeed that is the whole point of making the North independent, i.e. Removing the competing allegiances to two different sovereign territories,neither of whom wants nor understands us,and which causes such division and dysfunction,and will always make one community a winner and the other a loser,in their own psyches.

By the way I experienced the unrelenting sectarianism of Windsor Park (after a gap of 20 years) at the recent Linfield V Celtic tie.It was so bad a guy I knew asked the stewards to escort him and his grown up sons out of the stadium early in the second half,and took shameful abuse on the way out when the penny finally dropped with the hordes of the reason for his escort to the exit

Err, you were at a Linfield game and not a Northern Ireland game.  As such, your rather unpleasant experience which you describe above, has hee-haw to do with watching Northern Ireland at the 'National Stadium at Windsor Park'.

[red hander]

MW A football team like the current IFA one,using exclusively Unionist symbols and whose fans add the No Surrender lyric to the National Anthem they steal from the English team,would be obsolete in any independent North.Indeed that is the whole point of making the North independent, i.e. Removing the competing allegiances to two different sovereign territories,neither of whom wants nor understands us,and which causes such division and dysfunction,and will always make one community a winner and the other a loser,in their own psyches.

By the way I experienced the unrelenting sectarianism of Windsor Park (after a gap of 20 years) at the recent Linfield V Celtic tie.It was so bad a guy I knew asked the stewards to escort him and his grown up sons out of the stadium early in the second half,and took shameful abuse on the way out when the penny finally dropped with the hordes of the reason for his escort to the exit

You still pedalling this deluded shite 

[BennyCake]

MW A football team like the current IFA one,using exclusively Unionist symbols and whose fans add the No Surrender lyric to the National Anthem they steal from the English team,would be obsolete in any independent North.Indeed that is the whole point of making the North independent, i.e. Removing the competing allegiances to two different sovereign territories,neither of whom wants nor understands us,and which causes such division and dysfunction,and will always make one community a winner and the other a loser,in their own psyches.

By the way I experienced the unrelenting sectarianism of Windsor Park (after a gap of 20 years) at the recent Linfield V Celtic tie.It was so bad a guy I knew asked the stewards to escort him and his grown up sons out of the stadium early in the second half,and took shameful abuse on the way out when the penny finally dropped with the hordes of the reason for his escort to the exit

Anthem? Flag? Would ireland fans be happy to dilute identity to the team to keep Norn Iron fans satisfied? Another Phil Coulter monstrosity "anthem" perhaps? Where would Norn Iron fans Union flegs fit in at the Avivi? Or maybe matches should be played in Windsor? There's be 3 sets of fans to keep apart too. Would there have to be a 50:50 team split with north/South players?

These sort of incidents were the sort of things that went on decades ago, that caused the split in the first place.

[T Fearon]

The responsibility and priority and indeed raison d'etre of the IFA is,or should be,to promote football.As one of the chief football writers of the Daily Mirror said on BBC Talkback,the IFA continues to alienate a lot of people in the North by its continued use of Unionist symbols and anthems,in a divided community,with add ons like the No Surrender lyric to the English national anthem.

Thus far from promoting football the IFA is restricting its development

[michaelg]

The responsibility and priority and indeed raison d'etre of the IFA is,or should be,to promote football.As one of the chief football writers of the Daily Mirror said on BBC Talkback,the IFA continues to alienate a lot of people in the North by its continued use of Unionist symbols and anthems,in a divided community,with add ons like the No Surrender lyric to the English national anthem.

Thus far from promoting football the IFA is restricting its development

So without GSTQ you would support the team?

[seafoid]

MW A football team like the current IFA one,using exclusively Unionist symbols and whose fans add the No Surrender lyric to the National Anthem they steal from the English team,would be obsolete in any independent North.Indeed that is the whole point of making the North independent, i.e. Removing the competing allegiances to two different sovereign territories,neither of whom wants nor understands us,and which causes such division and dysfunction,and will always make one community a winner and the other a loser,in their own psyches.

By the way I experienced the unrelenting sectarianism of Windsor Park (after a gap of 20 years) at the recent Linfield V Celtic tie.It was so bad a guy I knew asked the stewards to escort him and his grown up sons out of the stadium early in the second half,and took shameful abuse on the way out when the penny finally dropped with the hordes of the reason for his escort to the exit

Err, you were at a Linfield game and not a Northern Ireland game.  As such, your rather unpleasant experience which you describe above, has hee-haw to do with watching Northern Ireland at the 'National Stadium at Windsor Park'.

NI is not a nation.
It is mar dhea.

[michaelg]

MW A football team like the current IFA one,using exclusively Unionist symbols and whose fans add the No Surrender lyric to the National Anthem they steal from the English team,would be obsolete in any independent North.Indeed that is the whole point of making the North independent, i.e. Removing the competing allegiances to two different sovereign territories,neither of whom wants nor understands us,and which causes such division and dysfunction,and will always make one community a winner and the other a loser,in their own psyches.

By the way I experienced the unrelenting sectarianism of Windsor Park (after a gap of 20 years) at the recent Linfield V Celtic tie.It was so bad a guy I knew asked the stewards to escort him and his grown up sons out of the stadium early in the second half,and took shameful abuse on the way out when the penny finally dropped with the hordes of the reason for his escort to the exit

Err, you were at a Linfield game and not a Northern Ireland game.  As such, your rather unpleasant experience which you describe above, has hee-haw to do with watching Northern Ireland at the 'National Stadium at Windsor Park'.

NI is not a nation.
It is mar dhea.

Your point being?

[seafoid]

MW A football team like the current IFA one,using exclusively Unionist symbols and whose fans add the No Surrender lyric to the National Anthem they steal from the English team,would be obsolete in any independent North.Indeed that is the whole point of making the North independent, i.e. Removing the competing allegiances to two different sovereign territories,neither of whom wants nor understands us,and which causes such division and dysfunction,and will always make one community a winner and the other a loser,in their own psyches.

By the way I experienced the unrelenting sectarianism of Windsor Park (after a gap of 20 years) at the recent Linfield V Celtic tie.It was so bad a guy I knew asked the stewards to escort him and his grown up sons out of the stadium early in the second half,and took shameful abuse on the way out when the penny finally dropped with the hordes of the reason for his escort to the exit

Err, you were at a Linfield game and not a Northern Ireland game.  As such, your rather unpleasant experience which you describe above, has hee-haw to do with watching Northern Ireland at the 'National Stadium at Windsor Park'.

NI is not a nation.
It is mar dhea.

Your point being?

Windsor Park is like Ravenhill or Healy Park  A provincial venue.