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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1230 on: March 30, 2019, 01:21:20 PM »
There are two power brokers in this state, both of them have not bothered to represent their voters. The DUP have come to power out of fear. Their voters have bought into that fear of losing N.I and will continue to vote them in regardless.

SF would have been like the PUP when they started politically, not many voters but since the peace process they are now the main political nationalist/republican party, youre still at least 2 generations away from where middle road prods would even consider looking at the benefits of a UI vote.

Everyone knows how corrupt the DUP are but what are the alternatives for loyalists/Unionists? If they have a choice between allowing the DUP to continue with the shambles of Stormont and voting a party dead set against a UI then itís a no brainier. And I canít see any change in that in my life time sadly

Alliance are a real alternative as ultimately they are a unionist party. Uup a bit like sdlp in that they donít seem particularly relevant any more. A lack of nationalist alternatives to sf a bigger issue imo.

To me, SF have nothing to offer anybody so maybe a nationalist alternative would be not to vote.

What about Francie Brollyís new party?

What's a 'nationalist alternative'?

Anything better than what we currently have?
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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1231 on: March 30, 2019, 01:54:44 PM »
There are nationalist alternatives but people donít vote for them. Generally because theyíre shite.


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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1232 on: March 30, 2019, 02:15:25 PM »
Nothing will change until people stop voting green or orange. Naomi Long head and shoulders above anyone else in N.I. ....IMHO.

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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1233 on: March 30, 2019, 02:57:55 PM »
There are two power brokers in this state, both of them have not bothered to represent their voters. The DUP have come to power out of fear. Their voters have bought into that fear of losing N.I and will continue to vote them in regardless.

SF would have been like the PUP when they started politically, not many voters but since the peace process they are now the main political nationalist/republican party, youre still at least 2 generations away from where middle road prods would even consider looking at the benefits of a UI vote.

Everyone knows how corrupt the DUP are but what are the alternatives for loyalists/Unionists? If they have a choice between allowing the DUP to continue with the shambles of Stormont and voting a party dead set against a UI then itís a no brainier. And I canít see any change in that in my life time sadly

Alliance are a real alternative as ultimately they are a unionist party. Uup a bit like sdlp in that they donít seem particularly relevant any more. A lack of nationalist alternatives to sf a bigger issue imo.

To me, SF have nothing to offer anybody so maybe a nationalist alternative would be not to vote.

What about Francie Brollyís new party?

What's a 'nationalist alternative'?

Anything better than what we currently have?

Be more specific lads - what do we want?

Like Brexit - we don't want this or we don't want that but what do we want?

What are we, as nationalists, looking for in 2019?

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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1234 on: March 30, 2019, 04:39:34 PM »
A viable nationalist party who arenít sf :)

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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1235 on: March 30, 2019, 06:29:29 PM »
Definitely not SF.....they who delivered Tory austerity....yet claim they are for the people.
Vote Alliance and see how it pans out.

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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1236 on: March 30, 2019, 07:29:14 PM »
There are two power brokers in this state, both of them have not bothered to represent their voters. The DUP have come to power out of fear. Their voters have bought into that fear of losing N.I and will continue to vote them in regardless.

SF would have been like the PUP when they started politically, not many voters but since the peace process they are now the main political nationalist/republican party, youre still at least 2 generations away from where middle road prods would even consider looking at the benefits of a UI vote.

Everyone knows how corrupt the DUP are but what are the alternatives for loyalists/Unionists? If they have a choice between allowing the DUP to continue with the shambles of Stormont and voting a party dead set against a UI then itís a no brainier. And I canít see any change in that in my life time sadly

Alliance are a real alternative as ultimately they are a unionist party. Uup a bit like sdlp in that they donít seem particularly relevant any more. A lack of nationalist alternatives to sf a bigger issue imo.

To me, SF have nothing to offer anybody so maybe a nationalist alternative would be not to vote.

What about Francie Brollyís new party?

Not voting wont achieve anything. Pick a party even if it is the least bad one or no-hoppers but dont not vote

Look what voting has got us. Two parties of arseholes who do feck all. Never did or never will. Why would anyone bother their hole going to vote when you see what we have right now?

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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1237 on: March 30, 2019, 07:34:49 PM »
There are two power brokers in this state, both of them have not bothered to represent their voters. The DUP have come to power out of fear. Their voters have bought into that fear of losing N.I and will continue to vote them in regardless.

SF would have been like the PUP when they started politically, not many voters but since the peace process they are now the main political nationalist/republican party, youre still at least 2 generations away from where middle road prods would even consider looking at the benefits of a UI vote.

Everyone knows how corrupt the DUP are but what are the alternatives for loyalists/Unionists? If they have a choice between allowing the DUP to continue with the shambles of Stormont and voting a party dead set against a UI then itís a no brainier. And I canít see any change in that in my life time sadly

Alliance are a real alternative as ultimately they are a unionist party. Uup a bit like sdlp in that they donít seem particularly relevant any more. A lack of nationalist alternatives to sf a bigger issue imo.

To me, SF have nothing to offer anybody so maybe a nationalist alternative would be not to vote.

What about Francie Brollyís new party?

What's a 'nationalist alternative'?

Anything better than what we currently have?

Be more specific lads - what do we want?

Like Brexit - we don't want this or we don't want that but what do we want?

What are we, as nationalists, looking for in 2019?

Well if nationalists dont vote the the sos can just keep saying no evidence of need for border poll.

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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1238 on: September 10, 2019, 09:37:10 AM »
Looks like OWC are up against it now. Even a home win against the Dutch and a draw away to Germany probably wouldn't even be enough as the Dutch and Germans have easier games to play v Estonia and Belarus. They'd need to take 4 points off the Dutch which is extremely unlikely considering they are one of the in form teams in Europe at the moment.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2019, 09:38:53 AM by clarshack »

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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1239 on: September 10, 2019, 10:14:15 AM »
If OWC were to qualify would they more than likely get a couple of the Aviva based games?

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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1240 on: September 10, 2019, 01:06:22 PM »
If OWC were to qualify would they more than likely get a couple of the Aviva based games?

They certainly belted out no surrender last night.
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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1241 on: September 10, 2019, 01:39:19 PM »
If OWC were to qualify would they more than likely get a couple of the Aviva based games?

Only if they were drawn in the Dublin-Bilbao group (group E). Spain will definitely be there, so only 2/3 spots left in that group, depending on whether Ireland qualify or not. There is no group that you could say for sure that both host nations will qualify.

Group A: Rome and Baku
Group B: Saint Petersburg and Copenhagen
Group C: Amsterdam and Bucharest
Group D: London and Glasgow
Group E: Bilbao and Dublin
Group F: Munich and Budapest

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Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
« Reply #1242 on: September 10, 2019, 02:07:38 PM »
If OWC were to qualify would they more than likely get a couple of the Aviva based games?

Only if they were drawn in the Dublin-Bilbao group (group E). Spain will definitely be there, so only 2/3 spots left in that group, depending on whether Ireland qualify or not. There is no group that you could say for sure that both host nations will qualify.

Group A: Rome and Baku
Group B: Saint Petersburg and Copenhagen
Group C: Amsterdam and Bucharest
Group D: London and Glasgow
Group E: Bilbao and Dublin
Group F: Munich and Budapest

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