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lurganblue

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Re: Let's all laugh at Totteringham
« Reply #1125 on: November 20, 2019, 12:14:16 PM »
Would be funny to see Poch rock up at Arsenal and do well.

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Re: Let's all laugh at Totteringham
« Reply #1126 on: November 20, 2019, 12:18:14 PM »
Jose wont be going there without a guaranteed war chest.  Wage structure to be overhauled too.

Not likely under Levy plus they have a big new stadium to pay for...

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Re: Let's all laugh at Totteringham
« Reply #1127 on: November 20, 2019, 12:27:02 PM »
My sympathies Tottenham supporters.

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« Reply #1128 on: November 20, 2019, 12:43:05 PM »
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/11/19/mauricio-pochettino-performed-miracles-tottenham-stuck-around/


After the highs of last season and a Champions League final appearance, Mauricio Pochettino's Tottenham relationship came crashing down this campaign CREDIT: REX
Before Tottenham’s Champions League final against Liverpool, Mauricio Pochettino had his players breaking arrows that were pushed against their larynxes as part of a bonding exercise. Arrows to the back are much harder to stop.
Spurs have been an uneasy alliance between ‘underpaid’ players, a parsimonious board and a manager who was constantly weighing whether he was in the right place. Mauricio Pochettino’s talent as a coach is hardly in doubt, but his timing is not so clever. He stuck around too long and made himself vulnerable to the sack.
Whether through emotion, stubbornness or hesitation, Pochettino should have seen that his zenith had already been reached. Last season’s operatic quarter-final Champions League win against Manchester City and the rousing semi-final fightback against Ajax in Amsterdam were the high points of his final year in charge. But defeat to Liverpool in the final and a chaotic summer of non-reconstruction must have told Pochettino he was going to fall off the high-wire of his relationship with Daniel Levy.

The modern Tottenham are a clever trick of the light: glorious stadium, some fine players, possibly the world’s best No 9 (Harry Kane) and a record of top-four Premier League finishes that belies their reluctance to compete financially with Manchester City and Liverpool. Pochettino’s gift was to hide those contradictions behind an exuberant playing style and strong team spirit. But ‘over-achieving’ can only be stretched so far and it was a certainty that Spurs that would place self-interest ahead of a manager who took them further than they were entitled to go.
Twenty-five points from 24 league games since February is a damning statistic, unworthy of Champions League finalists. The question is: who do those numbers damn - the manager or the club’s owners, whose Messianic stadium project goes far beyond having a nice home for the football team. The new White Hart Lane is an entertainment complex and urban development project that asked Pochettino and his players to be happy with what they got.
 
Pochettino and Tottenham enjoyed incredible highs last season (including beating Ajax late on) but frustration was never far away for the manager CREDIT: ACTION IMAGES
 
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Architecture, though, does not carry you into the Champions League places, and when the inevitable frictions over contracts and wages developed real heat last season, Spurs were poorly-placed to use their Champions League final appearance as the launchpad for more success.
A day that should have been a breakthrough instead pitched them into a downward slide, with an obvious cooling of the relationship between players and manager. Once that goes, at a club playing relatively modest wages, you can say goodbye to the band-of-brothers ethos. Asking Tottenham’s squad to compete with Man City and Liverpool’s resources was fine until Levy and the owners kept players who wanted to leave and spent unconvincingly over the summer. No top team loses 18 games in 2019, is knocked out of the League Cup by Colchester and goes down 7-2 to Bayern Munich if there is harmony.As the story broke, Harry Redknapp, a former Tottenham manager, came on Sky Sports News to guarantee that Spurs will already have someone else lined up. “I know they spoke to [Carlo] Ancelotti when I was still at the club,” Redknapp alleged.
Spurs fans, for the most part disgusted, if social media is any guide, can at least be sure Levy will look to protect the investment in the stadium by hiring a crowd-pleasing ‘name.’ Or, in Jose Mourinho’s case, a crowd-silencing name. But in sacking the incumbent they ask another manager to perform a task that, in the end, defeated ‘Poch’: that of winning big for a club that fundamentally dislikes shovelling money into the top end of the transfer market.
They ask a lot of their managers, and quite why Pochettino went along so often with the buddy act with Levy is a question he will now have time to ponder. When he grumbled about the club not buying players, Pochettino often followed it up with praise for my-friend-Daniel. Too often for his own good he played the loyal servant going along with the party line. At other times he just seemed conflicted.
But the good news for him is that nobody will hold Tottenham’s bizarre 2019 against him (Champions League final, disastrous league form). Instead they will line him up for the top jobs - Manchester United included, as they should. As for Kane, Spurs will have a tough time persuading him that everything will be fine now that Pochettino has gone. Levy is going to run out of people to kid.

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Re: Let's all laugh at Totteringham
« Reply #1129 on: November 20, 2019, 01:21:13 PM »
Hopefully Troy Parrott gets a move away as he wont get a look in with Jose.
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« Reply #1130 on: November 20, 2019, 01:55:35 PM »
Hopefully Troy Parrott gets a move away as he wont get a look in with Jose.


He might play him at left back.

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« Reply #1131 on: November 20, 2019, 02:00:51 PM »
My sympathies Tottenham supporters.

Yup. It’ll be all about Jose, as usual

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« Reply #1132 on: November 20, 2019, 03:01:49 PM »
Hopefully Troy Parrott gets a move away as he wont get a look in with Jose.

Was my first thought too. When has Jose ever played a 17/18 year old?!

Look at the young Chelsea lads thriving under Lampard. Says it all.

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« Reply #1133 on: November 20, 2019, 03:30:07 PM »
Jose in.  That was quick!!!

As expected really.  The most interesting thing is no Rui Faria on Jose management and i'd wonder is this Joao Sacramento fella a good replacement?

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« Reply #1134 on: November 20, 2019, 03:34:05 PM »
Mourinho might well get an initial bounce on results but even that is not guaranteed with a lot of players currently running down contracts and likely to leave either in January or next summer. However the bigger issue is the mess that Mourinho leaves behind for the next manager. It just seems like such a bizarre fit for Spurs given that they aren't likely to give him a hefty chequebook.

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« Reply #1135 on: November 20, 2019, 03:50:32 PM »
Said to my other half something was up that Pochettino got the sack during the international break, Mourinho must have been putting the squeeze on the board for a decision. 

Think Tottenham have been punching well above their weight this past few years and he gave the board a lot to be happy about, so they should have stuck out until the end of the season to make a decision at least. 

Not sure how Mourinho will do not managing a traditional "big team".  He has always been well funded and an embarrassment of riches in players to make an impact so this may well be a fair assessment of his managerial ability.  What would his expectation for a league finish be now given their current standing, top 6?
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« Reply #1136 on: November 20, 2019, 03:52:30 PM »
Said to my other half something was up that Pochettino got the sack during the international break, Mourinho must have been putting the squeeze on the board for a decision. 

Think Tottenham have been punching well above their weight this past few years and he gave the board a lot to be happy about, so they should have stuck out until the end of the season to make a decision at least. 

Not sure how Mourinho will do not managing a traditional "big team".  He has always been well funded and an embarrassment of riches in players to make an impact so this may well be a fair assessment of his managerial ability.  What would his expectation for a league finish be now given their current standing, top 6?

Does this apply to Porto?

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Re: Let's all laugh at Totteringham
« Reply #1137 on: November 20, 2019, 04:17:35 PM »
Said to my other half something was up that Pochettino got the sack during the international break, Mourinho must have been putting the squeeze on the board for a decision. 

Think Tottenham have been punching well above their weight this past few years and he gave the board a lot to be happy about, so they should have stuck out until the end of the season to make a decision at least. 

Not sure how Mourinho will do not managing a traditional "big team".  He has always been well funded and an embarrassment of riches in players to make an impact so this may well be a fair assessment of his managerial ability.  What would his expectation for a league finish be now given their current standing, top 6?

Does this apply to Porto?

And also, whatever about "traditional big team", they are a big team now. There are only 9 clubs in the world with larger revenues. Their revenues are larger than two of his previous clubs (Porto & Inter) combined.

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Re: Let's all laugh at Totteringham
« Reply #1138 on: November 20, 2019, 04:44:42 PM »
Wouldn't it be funny if he was hired by Arsenal who finished  fourth above Spurs on goal difference.
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« Reply #1139 on: November 20, 2019, 05:03:30 PM »
Well in once sense, Porto did have some squad of players when they won Europe.  But I would count his time there as the platform he lifted himself onto bigger things from and he hasn’t really looked back since.  At Chelsea, Inter, Madrid and Man Utd he had money and the players to get the job done. 

When I say traditional “big” clubs I am well aware of Tottenham recent history, what I meant is they are not big in the sense they are going to attract the best players in the world to complement his squad and may not have the wage budget to either to some of his past, more high profile jobs. 
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