Dublin to pay to widen Tyrone roads

Started by armaghniac, July 17, 2007, 07:08:31 PM

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armaghniac

Are the Western posters denying that Dublin is in fact subsidising the West? State expenditure in Mayo exceeds State revenue from Mayo in Dublin it is the other way around.

QuoteWestern Rail corridor from Sligo to Limerick at a cost of €250 m

How many people will travel on this, or at least the part north of Tuam? Will you? This is one of those "good things" that nobody has any intention of using. On the other hand you there is hardly standing room on the Luas.

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Rossfan

Every journey on Dublin's DART trains is subsidised to the tune of an average €1.00 per trip.
Dublin Bus serving 1.3m people gets €81m subsidy. Bus Eireann serving 3.1 m and having many more uneconomic routes gets €30m.
Who is subsidising who?
My sister lives in a town in Co Kildare. The people have to hire contractors at their own expense to cut the grass on the greens.
A few miles up the road in Dublin the local Council cuts all the Greens in Estates FREE.
Yet tax rates are the same in all 26 Counties.
Knock Airport was knocked (sorry !!!) when it was proposed as I'm sure Shannon was too but wasnt it right to go ahead wih them?
A Western Rail corridor would be a boon to Tourism,commerce -save a lot of roads, and would enable a lot of small towns along the route to become more attractive to investment and potential residents.
But of course it would be easier to close up the oul West altogether and have an Interpretive Centre in Athlone.
Meanwhile everyone could live in Tower Blocks in Dublin/Cork/Galway and 5 or 6 other places and the Govt could save a fortune.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Fishead_Sam

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Quote from: armaghniac on July 18, 2007, 05:24:46 PM
Are the Western posters denying that Dublin is in fact subsidising the West? State expenditure in Mayo exceeds State revenue from Mayo in Dublin it is the other way around.

QuoteWestern Rail corridor from Sligo to Limerick at a cost of €250 m

How many people will travel on this, or at least the part north of Tuam? Will you? This is one of those "good things" that nobody has any intention of using. On the other hand you there is hardly standing room on the Luas.



We pay water, bin & utility rates, Dublin does not.

Connacht & Munster has nearly all of Irelands mineral resources.

Connacht & Munster provide the highest number of graduates and a high percentage of the trades in the Republic, so therefore we provide the brains of the Irish economy and up to recently the brawn (now mostly Eastern Europe).

If you take money specifically regionaly allocated by the EU/EC/ECC since the 1970's to Ireland being used in the East when allocated to the West of the Shannon & the border Region, we have in fact being susidising the East

Also to Gnevin he states the whole population of Leinster against his perceived population of West of the Shannon "At the end of the day Fishead is most likely came down to a simple cost benefit . Spend 10 million on a road in the east and improve the lifes of up 1.5 million people . Spend 10 million in the west 250,000 would properly be the most you'd improve"

Sorry to break an illusions you may have but the poplulation of County Galway & Leitrim combined is about 250,000, thats before you count Mayo with about 120,000, Clare with 130,000, & Roscommon & Sligo which I'm unsure of. The Western Corridor would also befit people in the Bundoran/Ballyhannon area of Donegal, Longford, Westmeath, Western Offally, North Tipperary & County Limerick.
Sorry if all these people do not count to the Irish Government.

Also the projects the people of the West want implemented are a fraction of the Cost as money spend in the East.

All the money wasted on the Bertie Bowl would have us a good part of the way there.

Also its important before the Country falls into the Irish Sea.

This is the Republic of Ireland not the City State of Dublin.

armaghniac

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If you take money specifically regionaly allocated by the EU/EC/ECC since the 1970's to Ireland being used in the East when allocated to the West of the Shannon & the border Region, we have in fact being susidising the East

Which projects were allocated to the West of the country where the money was spent in the East? Surely the EU would require it to be spent on the project it was allocated for.

QuoteA Western Rail corridor would be a boon to Tourism,commerce -save a lot of roads, and would enable a lot of small towns along the route to become more attractive to investment and potential residents.

This line was closed because nobody used it.Will more people use it now, when car ownership is much higher, than did when it was closed?

It is not the West but places like Donegal and Monaghan that have been starved of government intervention.

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Tankie

i don't use public transport so once they keep building roads i'l be happy!
Grand Slam Saturday!

Hardy

It's good to see the government making an effort to meet its commitments on third world aid.

Pangurban

So you consider your own Country to be third world Hardy, or are you finally admitting to being a free-stater,full stop

Tankie

Quote from: Pangurban on July 18, 2007, 11:44:11 PM
So you consider your own Country to be third world Hardy, or are you finally admitting to being a free-stater,full stop

We own the North? it is a bit of a shithole you gotta admit, that much hate cant be good for anyone! :-\
Grand Slam Saturday!

GweylTah

Quote from: Hardy on July 18, 2007, 11:09:52 PM
It's good to see the government making an effort to meet its commitments on third world aid.


How partitionist of you!

::)

Fishead_Sam

Quote from: GweylTah on July 19, 2007, 09:25:41 AM
Quote from: Hardy on July 18, 2007, 11:09:52 PM
It's good to see the government making an effort to meet its commitments on third world aid.


How partitionist of you!

::)

But did he mean Northern Ireland or the United Kingdom as both are now officially poorer than the Republic  ;)

Connacht wants €100 trillion left in a brown paper bag in the third bin on the left as you enter St.Stephens Green by 4.55pm today or we be doing a little partitioning of our own  :D

Gnevin

Quote from: Rossfan on July 18, 2007, 02:13:49 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on July 18, 2007, 01:21:02 PM
The poor whest, always been ripped of by the big auld dubs  :P
What's "Whest" ???
Anyway 6 or 7 billion on light railways/metros or whatever in Dublin - noproblem seems the dearer the better.
Then when a group presented plans to the Govt about reopening the Western Rail corridor from Sligo to Limerick at a cost of €250 m. the then Minister (Brennan - a herrin choker -shame !!!) nearly laughed in their faces and muttered something about maybe a commuter service into Galway City.
The Whest is the know people from the west say west
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

Hardy

It's getting far too po-faced around here. Every second poster now is a policeman, a censor or a judge.

Just for the record, then - it was a joke. (Remember those?).

(By the way, I have no idea what a "free-stater" is in the year 2007 and in the era of power-sharing. This is the era of the political dispensation whereby the people of all Ireland have pronounced and mandated that the current constitutional arrangement is the one they want, unless and until the people of the separate parts of Ireland decide otherwise. Like it or not, 90+% of us (including those on both sides who fought a 30-year armed campaign against it, from their separate perspectives) have decided that. So I think the concept of "free-stater" is something of an anachronism).

the Deel Rover

agree with you hardy it seems the board is a sense of humour  free zone these days
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his holiness nb

Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 19, 2007, 10:36:04 AM
agree with you hardy it seems the board is a sense of humour  free zone these days

I disagree, how can people continue to read Gywltyahs posts without a sense of humour  :D :D :D :D :D
Ask me holy bollix

the Deel Rover

Quote from: his holiness nb on July 19, 2007, 10:43:05 AM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 19, 2007, 10:36:04 AM
agree with you hardy it seems the board is a sense of humour  free zone these days

I disagree, how can people continue to read Gywltyahs posts without a sense of humour  :D :D :D :D :D

true your holiness very true ;) ;)
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All Ireland Club Champions 2001