Jarlath Burns Views on the Politics of the Maze Stadium

[T Fearon]

Sammy, get over yourself. Jim Gracey, Howard Wells and David Healy all said in yesterday's Sunday Life to get on with the stadium at the Maze. Gracey also drew attention to the fact that a loyalist compound was also being preserved at Long Kesh, but, and I quote, "you'd think the H Block was to be in the centre circle, to hear some people". He also said that the bgaze of sports fans need never fall on either of the Long Kesh compounds whenthey attend the Maze, unlike soccer stadia such as in Nuremburg which are tangible shrines to Nazism They also admitted that no one had come up with any viable Belfast location as an alternative

Get over it.

[PrivatePile]

Just on another point about Jarlath Burns, has he got the teeth done, he talks as if he a gumshield in now!

[SammyG]

Just wandering what the GAA heads on here (especially the Southern ones) think of the idea of the Ulster GAA doing deals with SF, for purely political rather than sporting reasons. Or was Jarlath talking bollix?

What deal was that Sammy - the unsaid and unwritten one? Even the Bert would have problems putting that one together. 

So you think that Jarlath was talking bollix? Seems a bit of a strange thing to bring up at this stage.

[Long time dead]

Just wandering what the GAA heads on here (especially the Southern ones) think of the idea of the Ulster GAA doing deals with SF, for purely political rather than sporting reasons. Or was Jarlath talking bollix?

What deal was that Sammy - the unsaid and unwritten one? Even the Bert would have problems putting that one together. 

So you think that Jarlath was talking bollix? Seems a bit of a strange thing to bring up at this stage.

No Sammy noone thinks that, whatever gave you that idea.

[Donagh]

So you think that Jarlath was talking bollix? Seems a bit of a strange thing to bring up at this stage.

Rule 21 was abolished in 2001 with Rule 41 amended in 2005. The Maze stadium plan was launched in 2006, work it out for yourself.

[SammyG]

Sammy, get over yourself. Jim Gracey, Howard Wells and David Healy all said in yesterday's Sunday Life to get on with the stadium at the Maze.

Lie

Gracey also drew attention to the fact that a loyalist compound was also being preserved at Long Kesh,

WHo gives a fcuk?

but, and I quote, "you'd think the H Block was to be in the centre circle, to hear some people". He also said that the bgaze of sports fans need never fall on either of the Long Kesh compounds whenthey attend the Maze,

More lies, the plan is for the car park to be beside the shrine. It will not be possible to get to the stadium without passing the shrine. Also as discussed a million times, the shrine is not a major issue, as it will go ahead whether the stadium is built or not.

unlike soccer stadia such as in Nuremburg which are tangible shrines to Nazism

Interesting comparison, you'll have Donagh after you for comparing his heroes to the Nazis.

They also admitted that no one had come up with any viable Belfast location as an alternative

They admitted nothing of the sort, in fact they actually said the complet opposite.

[stiffler]

More lies, the plan is for the car park to be beside the shrine. It will not be possible to get to the stadium without passing the shrine.

Sure you can always take the tunnel 

[GweylTah]

The Maze stadium plan was launched in 2006, work it out for yourself.

Really?

Silly, silly, silly!

[ziggysego]

unlike soccer stadia such as in Nuremburg which are tangible shrines to Nazism

Interesting comparison, you'll have Donagh after you for comparing his heroes to the Nazis.

[/quote]

I'm not one to defend Tony, but I think the point was that it is a reminder not to repeat our troubled history.

[snatter]

Written records prove that GAA support for an inclusive stadium existsed BEFORE the Maze site was ever even made available, in fact, even while it was full of paramilitary prisoners.

At the NI Affairs Select Committee, meeting in 1999, Don Allen of the NI Sports Council confirmed that the GAA had supported a shared NI sports stadium from at least 1995 onwards.

This debunks any assertion that GAA support for a new stadium is in any way linked to SF policy re a reconciliation centre (or shrine if you're from the rejectionist wing of the dup).
JarlathB, SammyG, and any GAA bashing conspiracy theorists take note!


Don Allen's (NI Sports COuncil) quotes from Hansard 1999:

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmniaf/179/9020804.htm

21.
  .
  .
  We have talked to the GAA and they would support very very strongly a national stadium, they would like it to happen.
  .
  .

38.  What is the official position on the national stadium of the Gaelic Athletic Association?
  (Mr Allen)  Four years ago, when we were talking about a Millennium bid, we talked to them and they were very, very supportive and they have been very supportive of the national training facility.

[SammyG]

Written records prove that GAA support for an inclusive stadium existsed BEFORE the Maze site was ever even made available, in fact, even while it was full of paramilitary prisoners.

At the NI Affairs Select Committee, meeting in 1999, Don Allen of the NI Sports Council confirmed that the GAA had supported a shared NI sports stadium from at least 1995 onwards.

This debunks any assertion that GAA support for a new stadium is in any way linked to SF policy re a reconciliation centre (or shrine if you're from the rejectionist wing of the dup).
JarlathB, SammyG, and any GAA bashing conspiracy theorists take note!


Don Allen's (NI Sports COuncil) quotes from Hansard 1999:

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmniaf/179/9020804.htm

21.
  .
  .
  We have talked to the GAA and they would support very very strongly a national stadium, they would like it to happen.
  .
  .

38.  What is the official position on the national stadium of the Gaelic Athletic Association?
  (Mr Allen)  Four years ago, when we were talking about a Millennium bid, we talked to them and they were very, very supportive and they have been very supportive of the national training facility.

Interesting but also completely irrelevant, given that the GAA vetoed the proposals and left us with the mess we're now in.

[Donagh]

Interesting but also completely irrelevant, given that the GAA vetoed the proposals and left us with the mess we're now in.

Aye, sure it's all the GAAs fault. 

Comforting to know that when the chips are down, NI soccer people will always revert to type.

[snatter]

Relevance?

some delusional serial GAA basher seeks opinion on, and I quote,

the Ulster GAA doing deals with SF, for purely political rather than sporting reasons

.

A mentally balanced poster then proves categorically, courtesy of Hansard, that the original poster's statement is completely typical anti-GAA bollix.

Original deluded poster, in time proven manner, then
1. totally ignores facts that differs from his delusions, claiming that facts are somehow irrelevant to his original post.
2. attempts to distract by repeating yet more irrelevant anti-GAA dribble about some imaginary GAA veto that ruined his life.

I admit this has nothing at all to do with the bigotted one's delusional plot about SF and the GAA being in cahoots, but it has got to be repeated anyway in the inteerests of correctness:

ALL THREE SPORTS BODIES HAVE AN EQUAL VETO ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SHARED STADIUM. IF ANY WISHES TO WALK AWAY, FOR WHATEVERE REASON, THEY ARE FREE TO DO SO.

The only caveat is that the Brit Govt have made it clear that there will be no financial assistance (I assume directly or indirectly) for any stadium that does not provide for all three codes.

[SammyG]

Interesting but also completely irrelevant, given that the GAA vetoed the proposals and left us with the mess we're now in.

Aye, sure it's all the GAAs fault. 

Comforting to know that when the chips are down, NI soccer people will always revert to type.

Comforting to note that you still don't read what I actually wrote, rather than what you think I wrote. My mention of the GAA veto was in answer to the previous post, not in relation the whole fiasco. As I have said many times the GAA have played a blinder over the Maze, if it gets built they've got everything the want and if (as seems likely) it goes belly up, they haven't lost anything.

[Goats Do Shave]

What are you scared of?