Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope

[toby47]

Is there any chance he'll be sacked?

[Look-Up!]

Too early for sacked talk. I think he has done a great job for the most part. Put a structure and culture in place, not easy done. Shipped out underperforming stars, put together a team that is challenging for the PL and is a CL qualifier pretty much guaranteed. All done on a comparatively modest budget. Good enough job to deserve the financial backing the club then gave him as a potential top class manager.
 But that puts him on a higher level and from now on there will be a higher level of scrutiny on him, and rightly so. He now needs to deliver big trophies but he's faltering a bit ATM. His stubbornness could be his undoing. Unbelievable he hasn't sorted out the striker situation yet. His team has become very predictable and some of the goals that were elsewhere in the team have dried up significantly. If he can maintain their current level (approx 80/80+) he'll get more time to sort it out but if they drop off markedly from the pace of last few years, then a new man with new ideas will be needed.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

I can't be arsed checking but I'd be interested to know what a comparitively modest budget means

Edit - ok I did check lol. You might wanna explain that bit further

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I can't be arsed checking but I'd be interested to know what a comparitively modest budget means

Edit - ok I did check lol. You might wanna explain that bit further

Only really backed him big time from summer of 22 onwards. His net spend is less than the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea, approx the same to the likes of Spurs and Newcastle. So yes, he needs to deliver but clubs need to be very careful with appointments and sackings on the managerial front because the grass is usually very very brown on the other side.

[marty34]

Will Tierney get regular games now?

[statto]

Will Tierney get regular games now?

Wouldn't have thought it, Califiori, Zinchenko, Miles-Skelly and Timber (when White's fit) are probably ahead of him in pecking order. 

[statto]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1kmn7jjvkjo

pretty disgusting. 

[Captain Obvious]

I can't be arsed checking but I'd be interested to know what a comparitively modest budget means

Edit - ok I did check lol. You might wanna explain that bit further

Only really backed him big time from summer of 22 onwards. His net spend is less than the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea, approx the same to the likes of Spurs and Newcastle. So yes, he needs to deliver but clubs need to be very careful with appointments and sackings on the managerial front because the grass is usually very very brown on the other side.

Net spend ignores how transfers appears on a club balance sheet and it ignores other associated costs such as player wages. 

Any well run club as Arsenal are now and spend 700 million pound under one manager the expectation is to win trophies than just challenge and you can hardly call this season where they'll finish a distance 2nd place at best in the Premier League and knocked out of domestic cups by teams they were expected to beat as challenging.

[Look-Up!]

I can't be arsed checking but I'd be interested to know what a comparitively modest budget means

Edit - ok I did check lol. You might wanna explain that bit further

Only really backed him big time from summer of 22 onwards. His net spend is less than the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea, approx the same to the likes of Spurs and Newcastle. So yes, he needs to deliver but clubs need to be very careful with appointments and sackings on the managerial front because the grass is usually very very brown on the other side.

Net spend ignores how transfers appears on a club balance sheet and it ignores other associated costs such as player wages. 

Any well run club as Arsenal are now and spend 700 million pound under one manager the expectation is to win trophies than just challenge and you can hardly call this season where they'll finish a distance 2nd place at best in the Premier League and knocked out of domestic cups by teams they were expected to beat as challenging.

That's why I said "Good enough job to deserve the financial backing the club then gave him as a potential top class manager". Their wage bill was small up to this. He's been backed by the club so from now on he will be judged harsher. To pull the plug now after backing him would be stupid.

 From where they were before he is challenging. 2nd in PL, 3rd in CL. Most teams when they break into CL football suffer a slump in the league but he's still competing on that front. That's not saying he doesn't deserve criticism. Hasn't sorted out striker issue. Over reliance on a few players. Handling of Saka you could say very irresponsible. What is it, 250 games for a 23 year old? They have become a bit predictable. But maybe they're waiting for the right players to become available and will sort that out in the next window or two. Time will tell, he'll either be a legend or a failure. But that call is a bit aways yet.

[Mourne Red]

He gets to the end of the season, but I don't think it's harsh the criticism he's receiving. Has signed one striker in his 5 years there and in that time sold Auba, Laccazette, Nketiah, Balogun and left us using a midfielder as a ST. He can't develop a player and has a hard-on for foreign players

Smith-Rowe, Omari Hutchinson, Willock, Emi Martinez all academy players but cast aside by Mikel all playing in Premier League currently and you'd argue the players that replaced them are no better. Our set piece coach is becoming as well known as Arteta which goes to show how poor the standard off football is that he's implemented. 

[Blowitupref]

That's why I said "Good enough job to deserve the financial backing the club then gave him as a potential top class manager". Their wage bill was small up to this. He's been backed by the club so from now on he will be judged harsher. To pull the plug now after backing him would be stupid.

 From where they were before he is challenging. 2nd in PL, 3rd in CL. Most teams when they break into CL football suffer a slump in the league but he's still competing on that front. That's not saying he doesn't deserve criticism. Hasn't sorted out striker issue. Over reliance on a few players. Handling of Saka you could say very irresponsible. What is it, 250 games for a 23 year old? They have become a bit predictable. But maybe they're waiting for the right players to become available and will sort that out in the next window or two. Time will tell, he'll either be a legend or a failure. But that call is a bit aways yet.

They'll be judged on how they do in the knock out stages than a dragged out new league format that wasn't needed.  Out of interest would you fancy Arsenal to reach the Champions league semi final this season?

Record in Europe under Arteta so far.

2020 -  Round 32 Europa League exit to Olympiacos
2021 -  Semi final Europa League exit to Villarreal
2023 -  Round 16 Europa League exit to Sporting
2024 -  Quarter final Champions League exit to Bayern Munich

[tyroneman]

I can't be arsed checking but I'd be interested to know what a comparitively modest budget means

Edit - ok I did check lol. You might wanna explain that bit further

Only really backed him big time from summer of 22 onwards. His net spend is less than the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea, approx the same to the likes of Spurs and Newcastle. So yes, he needs to deliver but clubs need to be very careful with appointments and sackings on the managerial front because the grass is usually very very brown on the other side.

ironic that his only trophy came from Emery's team......

[Look-Up!]

That's why I said "Good enough job to deserve the financial backing the club then gave him as a potential top class manager". Their wage bill was small up to this. He's been backed by the club so from now on he will be judged harsher. To pull the plug now after backing him would be stupid.

 From where they were before he is challenging. 2nd in PL, 3rd in CL. Most teams when they break into CL football suffer a slump in the league but he's still competing on that front. That's not saying he doesn't deserve criticism. Hasn't sorted out striker issue. Over reliance on a few players. Handling of Saka you could say very irresponsible. What is it, 250 games for a 23 year old? They have become a bit predictable. But maybe they're waiting for the right players to become available and will sort that out in the next window or two. Time will tell, he'll either be a legend or a failure. But that call is a bit aways yet.

They'll be judged on how they do in the knock out stages than a dragged out new league format that wasn't needed.  Out of interest would you fancy Arsenal to reach the Champions league semi final this season?

Record in Europe under Arteta so far.

2020 -  Round 32 Europa League exit to Olympiacos
2021 -  Semi final Europa League exit to Villarreal
2023 -  Round 16 Europa League exit to Sporting
2024 -  Quarter final Champions League exit to Bayern Munich

Wouldn't fancy any team without a striker but they are still a decent team if the draw is kind and if they hit a goal streak they're capable of beating anyone. Probably most defensively solid team in PL. If they can sort out the issues at other end. Very big if I know.
 Calling for his head though is a risk. Who do they get to replace him? A poor appointment could be disastrous. Out of CL qualification disastrous.

[Blowitupref]

That's why I said "Good enough job to deserve the financial backing the club then gave him as a potential top class manager". Their wage bill was small up to this. He's been backed by the club so from now on he will be judged harsher. To pull the plug now after backing him would be stupid.

 From where they were before he is challenging. 2nd in PL, 3rd in CL. Most teams when they break into CL football suffer a slump in the league but he's still competing on that front. That's not saying he doesn't deserve criticism. Hasn't sorted out striker issue. Over reliance on a few players. Handling of Saka you could say very irresponsible. What is it, 250 games for a 23 year old? They have become a bit predictable. But maybe they're waiting for the right players to become available and will sort that out in the next window or two. Time will tell, he'll either be a legend or a failure. But that call is a bit aways yet.

They'll be judged on how they do in the knock out stages than a dragged out new league format that wasn't needed.  Out of interest would you fancy Arsenal to reach the Champions league semi final this season?

Record in Europe under Arteta so far.

2020 -  Round 32 Europa League exit to Olympiacos
2021 -  Semi final Europa League exit to Villarreal
2023 -  Round 16 Europa League exit to Sporting
2024 -  Quarter final Champions League exit to Bayern Munich

Wouldn't fancy any team without a striker but they are still a decent team if the draw is kind and if they hit a goal streak they're capable of beating anyone. Probably most defensively solid team in PL. If they can sort out the issues at other end. Very big if I know.
 Calling for his head though is a risk. Who do they get to replace him? A poor appointment could be disastrous. Out of CL qualification disastrous.

Wasn't calling for his head just wondering did you think Arsenal would back up their current 3rd place the league format with reaching the last 4 of the Champions league. Under Arteta so far in knock out European competition would suggest not but we'll see.

[Look-Up!]

That's why I said "Good enough job to deserve the financial backing the club then gave him as a potential top class manager". Their wage bill was small up to this. He's been backed by the club so from now on he will be judged harsher. To pull the plug now after backing him would be stupid.

 From where they were before he is challenging. 2nd in PL, 3rd in CL. Most teams when they break into CL football suffer a slump in the league but he's still competing on that front. That's not saying he doesn't deserve criticism. Hasn't sorted out striker issue. Over reliance on a few players. Handling of Saka you could say very irresponsible. What is it, 250 games for a 23 year old? They have become a bit predictable. But maybe they're waiting for the right players to become available and will sort that out in the next window or two. Time will tell, he'll either be a legend or a failure. But that call is a bit aways yet.

They'll be judged on how they do in the knock out stages than a dragged out new league format that wasn't needed.  Out of interest would you fancy Arsenal to reach the Champions league semi final this season?

Record in Europe under Arteta so far.

2020 -  Round 32 Europa League exit to Olympiacos
2021 -  Semi final Europa League exit to Villarreal
2023 -  Round 16 Europa League exit to Sporting
2024 -  Quarter final Champions League exit to Bayern Munich

Wouldn't fancy any team without a striker but they are still a decent team if the draw is kind and if they hit a goal streak they're capable of beating anyone. Probably most defensively solid team in PL. If they can sort out the issues at other end. Very big if I know.
 Calling for his head though is a risk. Who do they get to replace him? A poor appointment could be disastrous. Out of CL qualification disastrous.

Wasn't calling for his head just wondering did you think Arsenal would back up their current 3rd place the league format with reaching the last 4 of the Champions league. Under Arteta so far in knock out European competition would suggest not but we'll see.

Understand. I guess my original post about him, was replying to if he was in danger of sacking.

I wouldn't like to back them in CL simply because they don't have a striker. But they are solid defensively so will not be simple for anyone in a knockout scenario. And if they can convert some of those sitters they've been missing and get their noses in front in a game I'd fancy them against anyone. If they go behind I'd fancy them against no-one.

So in answer to your question, probably not.