NFL Division 2 - 2026

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cavanmaniac

Quote from: Estimator on February 04, 2026, 09:44:27 AMIs that like the Meath/Cavan Breffni Park stat?? Meath hadn't beaten Cavan in Breffni since 1965.. in reality they only played in Breffni four times since '65 and one of them was a draw.

Unfortunately, that 1997 win is the last time Cavan beat Tyrone at senior level in league or championship, and we've suffered plenty of humiliations a long the way too, despite beating some teams that themselves could beat Tyrone regularly in the same era. The Cavan mental baggage when facing Tyrone is bordering on the farcical at this stage, in the modern era when there's all sorts of gurus and psychologists it really (pardon the pun) boggles the mind how we routinely get our arses red-handed to us. Our inability to press on and deliver a knockout blow in championship Breffni a few years back, after clawing back a huge deficit against one of the worst-prepared Tyrone championship sides in living memory, is exhibit A here - when the winning line beckoned, Cavan froze.

Captain Scarlet

Do Cavan take any solace in pushin Cork and Meath so close or, as I'd see it, it's a total sickener.

Offaly fairly gave up against Kildare and have lost too many bodies and I think they will drop. They have to play Derry, Tyrone and Meath yet!

I just can't see Tyrone not getting their act together. Then Cavan, Kildare and Louth can go either way in terms of table position.

Derry will beat Kildare and I worry about our midfield mobility in that one. But we are much fitter than we've been in years and we are still missing a lot of lads.

them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

cavanmaniac

I think Cavan will be sickened surely, yes, but not half enough - the other thing is there'll be too much solace also taken. Sure didn't we do well, weren't we competitive, with a bit more luck we'd have won, the ref was against us...we have no shortage of moral victories and excuses down the decades and plenty of security blankets to fall back on. That's why we struggle to truly move the needle despite having resources much better than many other counties.

Our level of performance has probably been a little better than Tyrone going into the next game so ordinarily you'd have to say we've a chance, but it's still too early in McCabe's resign for him to have addressed the above issues. You don't clean that stuff up overnight.

Dreadnought

Quote from: Armagh18 on February 04, 2026, 10:46:44 AM
Quote from: Estimator on February 04, 2026, 09:44:27 AM
Quote from: tyroneStatto on February 03, 2026, 11:54:45 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 03, 2026, 10:48:02 PMCould be the first ever meeting of London v Tyrone in the Tailteann later this season.

That would make iit an interesting year for the GAA statistician community in Tyrone.

Pretty sure Cavan haven't beaten Tyrone in the league since 1997. Was at that game in O'Neill Park, Cavan got a late winner and went on to win the Ulster Championship. If Cavan somehow manage a win this time around then Tyrone v London could not be subsequently ruled out.

Is that like the Meath/Cavan Breffni Park stat?? Meath hadn't beaten Cavan in Breffni since 1965.. in reality they only played in Breffni four times since '65 and one of them was a draw.
Haven't beat them much in any competition in recent years have they?
Won a McKenna Cup game vs them in 2017 I think? But yeah no League or Championship since 1997 (few draws though).

Estimator

Quote from: Dreadnought on February 04, 2026, 12:11:55 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 04, 2026, 10:46:44 AM
Quote from: Estimator on February 04, 2026, 09:44:27 AM
Quote from: tyroneStatto on February 03, 2026, 11:54:45 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 03, 2026, 10:48:02 PMCould be the first ever meeting of London v Tyrone in the Tailteann later this season.

That would make iit an interesting year for the GAA statistician community in Tyrone.

Pretty sure Cavan haven't beaten Tyrone in the league since 1997. Was at that game in O'Neill Park, Cavan got a late winner and went on to win the Ulster Championship. If Cavan somehow manage a win this time around then Tyrone v London could not be subsequently ruled out.

Is that like the Meath/Cavan Breffni Park stat?? Meath hadn't beaten Cavan in Breffni since 1965.. in reality they only played in Breffni four times since '65 and one of them was a draw.
Haven't beat them much in any competition in recent years have they?
Won a McKenna Cup game vs them in 2017 I think? But yeah no League or Championship since 1997 (few draws though).

According to Google (might not be accurate) it's 18 games.
Won 0
Draw 3
Lost 15
Ulster League Champions 2009

Blowitupref

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on February 04, 2026, 11:24:01 AMDo Cavan take any solace in pushin Cork and Meath so close or, as I'd see it, it's a total sickener.

Offaly fairly gave up against Kildare and have lost too many bodies and I think they will drop. They have to play Derry, Tyrone and Meath yet!

I just can't see Tyrone not getting their act together. Then Cavan, Kildare and Louth can go either way in terms of table position.

Derry will beat Kildare and I worry about our midfield mobility in that one. But we are much fitter than we've been in years and we are still missing a lot of lads.



So far In this year's league 8 by my count (Harry O'Neill,Ryan Burke,James Harris,Ryan Sinkey,Callum Bolton,Eoin Cully,Brendan Gibbons,Darragh Swords)  U20 All-Ireland winners or runners up in 2022/23 has featured.  Another two are injured currently Colm Dalton and James Mcgrath

Then add in Jack Robinson , Jimmy Hyland , Darragh Kirwan, Neil Flynn, Ben McCormack have to return it's a good panel getting built,  should fitness and organisation be done right and it should be under manager Brian Flanagan and coaches Aidan O'Rourke,Davy Burke then no reason why Kildare in years can't become more consistent move upwards.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

moonster

Will be between Meath and Kildare for Leinster. Both are excellent odds.


Leinster Football Championship 2026 Outright

Meath 15/8

Kildare 10/1


DaleCooper

Meath V Louth : Meath by 6
Kildare V Derry : Derry by 2
Offaly V Cork : Cork by 5
Tyrone V Cavan : Tyrone by 7


tbrick18


Meath V Louth : Meath by 8
Kildare V Derry : Derry by 4
Offaly V Cork : Cork by 6
Tyrone V Cavan : Tyrone by 3



Captain Scarlet

Meath V Louth : Meath by 6
Kildare V Derry : Derry by 4
Offaly V Cork : Cork by 8
Tyrone V Cavan : Tyrone by 4

I mentioned elsewhere that I don't see us coping if Derry's midfield and half backs get moving. We have very big men in the middle but would not have the mobility of Derry's pair.
I'll be curious to see who amongst the walking wounded are back, as there could be a couple of massive boosts. This is a free hit, same as Tyrone, for Kildare but don't see us doing the job.

Malachy O'Rourke will surely lift the lads and they will get things moving this weekend. Cavan and Offaly will continue to be in bother.
them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

tbrick18

Iv
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on Today at 11:00:56 AMMeath V Louth : Meath by 6
Kildare V Derry : Derry by 4
Offaly V Cork : Cork by 8
Tyrone V Cavan : Tyrone by 4

I mentioned elsewhere that I don't see us coping if Derry's midfield and half backs get moving. We have very big men in the middle but would not have the mobility of Derry's pair.
I'll be curious to see who amongst the walking wounded are back, as there could be a couple of massive boosts. This is a free hit, same as Tyrone, for Kildare but don't see us doing the job.

Malachy O'Rourke will surely lift the lads and they will get things moving this weekend. Cavan and Offaly will continue to be in bother.

I've picked Derry to win, but they are still in a precarious position confidence wise.
Meath actually hammered them in every way except the scoreboard. They performed better against Tyrone but still made a huge amount of mistakes. They might have turned a corner, but I reckon Kildare will be a real challenge.

Tyrone, as I've said before on here, are not as good as they are getting credit for. They are certainly in transition - and a bit like Derry I think could beat anyone but also get beat by anyone. Cavan haven't been far away in their games so far, and maybe this is the game they take a big scalp.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: tbrick18 on Today at 12:08:13 PMIv
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on Today at 11:00:56 AMMeath V Louth : Meath by 6
Kildare V Derry : Derry by 4
Offaly V Cork : Cork by 8
Tyrone V Cavan : Tyrone by 4

I mentioned elsewhere that I don't see us coping if Derry's midfield and half backs get moving. We have very big men in the middle but would not have the mobility of Derry's pair.
I'll be curious to see who amongst the walking wounded are back, as there could be a couple of massive boosts. This is a free hit, same as Tyrone, for Kildare but don't see us doing the job.

Malachy O'Rourke will surely lift the lads and they will get things moving this weekend. Cavan and Offaly will continue to be in bother.

I've picked Derry to win, but they are still in a precarious position confidence wise.
Meath actually hammered them in every way except the scoreboard. They performed better against Tyrone but still made a huge amount of mistakes. They might have turned a corner, but I reckon Kildare will be a real challenge.

Tyrone, as I've said before on here, are not as good as they are getting credit for. They are certainly in transition - and a bit like Derry I think could beat anyone but also get beat by anyone. Cavan haven't been far away in their games so far, and maybe this is the game they take a big scalp.

Had a look at the match stats to see how accurate that statement was.

Total shots.  Derry 24 Meath 21
Shots from play.  Derry 19 Meath 16


Meath kick outs

Won 11 lost 11

Derry kick outs

Won 10 lost 8

Turnovers 22 each.

Conclusion the mind can play tricks.