Allianz

Started by Baile Brigín 2, December 23, 2025, 07:00:10 PM

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The Allianz Deal

Drop it now
Don't renew
Leave in place

Voting closes: January 31, 2026, 07:00:10 PM

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 28, 2025, 07:55:00 PMPrinciples or money simple choice

It is, some people though see that it's ok for some involvement over various things they would use daily by having a pop at an association they have no interest in
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

naka

Hate the way social media dictates things
Gaa drop aviva
Gaa then lose out on revenue
Gaa raise prices and yet another free for all on social media
How come no issues with soccer rugby using Aviva!!
For what it's worth nothing in this world is untainted .

Truthsayer

Quote from: naka on Today at 09:21:11 AMHate the way social media dictates things
Gaa drop aviva
Gaa then lose out on revenue
Gaa raise prices and yet another free for all on social media
How come no issues with soccer rugby using Aviva!!
For what it's worth nothing in this world is untainted .
When did the GAA drop Aviva?
In August this year Aviva became the official partner for all ClubberTV coverage for the 2025/2026 season, marking its first significant move into direct GAA sponsorship, specifically at the local, club level.
As for 'nothing in the world is untainted'. What does that even mean? Everything in the world is tainted? 🤷

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: naka on Today at 09:21:11 AMHate the way social media dictates things
Gaa drop aviva
Gaa then lose out on revenue
Gaa raise prices and yet another free for all on social media
How come no issues with soccer rugby using Aviva!!
For what it's worth nothing in this world is untainted .
The FAI got a vote at UEFA level to expel Israel to be fair. They are listening to their members.

Aviva may be at it, but Allianz are the biggest offenders. The UN called them out.

We are playing into Burns's propaganda- they are all the same.

Milltown Row2

If you have used google at any point in the last couple of years then it's also tainted. If you have bought the kids a McDonald's again tainted and so on and so on..

I'd say the software in your device will be tainted.. but obviously there are degrees of 'taintedness' that's more acceptable than others..

So I'll ask again as he avoided like the plague.  BB2 have you been to the Aviva recently?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 11:56:45 AMIf you have used google at any point in the last couple of years then it's also tainted. If you have bought the kids a McDonald's again tainted and so on and so on..

I'd say the software in your device will be tainted.. but obviously there are degrees of 'taintedness' that's more acceptable than others..

So I'll ask again as he avoided like the plague.  BB2 have you been to the Aviva recently?
That's whataboutery. Allianz backs Israeli bonds
 

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 11:56:45 AMIf you have used google at any point in the last couple of years then it's also tainted. If you have bought the kids a McDonald's again tainted and so on and so on..

I'd say the software in your device will be tainted.. but obviously there are degrees of 'taintedness' that's more acceptable than others..

So I'll ask again as he avoided like the plague.  BB2 have you been to the Aviva recently?
Whataboutery. I'm not personally boycotting all and any business that does business in Israel, and the mobile phone thing has been debunked. Being the biggest investor in war bonds and investing in Israeli weapons startups is a different thing.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on Today at 12:02:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 11:56:45 AMIf you have used google at any point in the last couple of years then it's also tainted. If you have bought the kids a McDonald's again tainted and so on and so on..

I'd say the software in your device will be tainted.. but obviously there are degrees of 'taintedness' that's more acceptable than others..

So I'll ask again as he avoided like the plague.  BB2 have you been to the Aviva recently?
That's whataboutery. Allianz backs Israeli bonds
 

Is it? I'm nearly sure there is a list that posters have put up on here asking people to not use, the same thing as we are asking the GAA to step away from Allianz.. You are putting a hierarchy on it

HP Dell Cisco to name a few, Coca-Cola  Axa another on the list.. Quite an extensive list
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

SCFC

In an ideal world, we wouldn't drink Coca-Cola, use Caterpiller plant machines, visit the Aviva, have Allianz as a sponsor or insurer, use Facebook, use HP, Siemens or Motorola products etc...
Can't see any of this happening on a concerted level so GAA shouldn't react to being singled out here.

thewobbler

Quote from: SCFC on Today at 12:57:22 PMIn an ideal world, we wouldn't drink Coca-Cola, use Caterpiller plant machines, visit the Aviva, have Allianz as a sponsor or insurer, use Facebook, use HP, Siemens or Motorola products etc...
Can't see any of this happening on a concerted level so GAA shouldn't react to being singled out here.

Much too level headed a response from this one.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: SCFC on Today at 12:57:22 PMIn an ideal world, we wouldn't drink Coca-Cola, use Caterpiller plant machines, visit the Aviva, have Allianz as a sponsor or insurer, use Facebook, use HP, Siemens or Motorola products etc...
Can't see any of this happening on a concerted level so GAA shouldn't react to being singled out here.
How many of those companies are large investors in war bonds and arms companies?

Blowitupref

Other than journalists and those in the media does anyone call the National football league the Allianz leagues?

Same question about the many county grounds that have added sponsors to the name of their stadiums.



Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

SCFC

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 02:08:44 PM
Quote from: SCFC on Today at 12:57:22 PMIn an ideal world, we wouldn't drink Coca-Cola, use Caterpiller plant machines, visit the Aviva, have Allianz as a sponsor or insurer, use Facebook, use HP, Siemens or Motorola products etc...
Can't see any of this happening on a concerted level so GAA shouldn't react to being singled out here.
How many of those companies are large investors in war bonds and arms companies?
I can't answer that. Probably not all of them.
Is there some sort of hierarchy which determines how much dealings a company has with Israel before we should stop using their services/products?
Should the IRFU be thinking about renaming their main stadium for instance?

Truthsayer

#88
While huge companies are facilitating genocide and need challenged, for many many the GAA is us, who we are. It's not some big company that belongs to Jarlath Burns and suits in Croke Park. If you understand the ethos of the GAA which is build on our clubs and communities, we will not be forced into supporting this merger, the full extent of which was revealed this year. It is GAA people leading this campaign to end the Allianz sponsorship.. Colm O'Rourke, Dr David Hickey, Nodlaig Brolly, Damian O'Hagan and many more.. The GPA needs to man up..

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: SCFC on Today at 02:37:20 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 02:08:44 PM
Quote from: SCFC on Today at 12:57:22 PMIn an ideal world, we wouldn't drink Coca-Cola, use Caterpiller plant machines, visit the Aviva, have Allianz as a sponsor or insurer, use Facebook, use HP, Siemens or Motorola products etc...
Can't see any of this happening on a concerted level so GAA shouldn't react to being singled out here.
How many of those companies are large investors in war bonds and arms companies?
I can't answer that. Probably not all of them.
Is there some sort of hierarchy which determines how much dealings a company has with Israel before we should stop using their services/products?
Should the IRFU be thinking about renaming their main stadium for instance?
I thought it was clear from the context, the answer is none.

If you can't tell the difference between a company that sells into Israel and a company that is the largest institutional investor in war bonds and provided capital for Elbit, there isn't much more to be said.

What rugby do and don't do is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. But on the basis soccer has been far more proactive, if Aviva was slightly as bad as Allianz we would have heard about it by now. My reading is they aren't.

But the simple reality is Croke Park are going along with a sports wash.