Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2025

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Maybe Armagh posters can explain exactly how their seeding works. Like the Tyrone boys ye have lots to say about Cavan's but when they were pressed on how exactly their seeding works they got very defensive and insulting.

From what I can gather they play league in 2024. Then they play 2024 championship. Then they play 2025 league. Then they play 2025 championship seeded on 2024 league. That's about as much as I could make out of them. Is Armagh the same? If it is keep it thanks.

Look up - do ye maybe want to "look up" at where I explained to ye 10 league matches of 15 are played with county men and the thing is treated extremely seriously? Wouldn't just be the friendlies you're used to, you can debit the merits or drawbacks of any system you want, your attitude is stinking, the neck on you to talk about insulting

Not interested in your opinions or your high horse. You've been on here years "getting your head around" our format. Completely FOS.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Does everyone's championship status not be determined by how they got on "the year before"?

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Does everyone's championship status not be determined by how they got on "the year before"?

Not if league weighted properly like Tailteann and Sam Maguire is on current year.

[Dreadnought]

The same principle would be the Intercounty Hurling system. 5 League divisions, 5 Championships. Not a single League result affects your Championship rating or vice versa. You go up or down in each solely on each

It's exactly the same principle. You either agree Division 1 teams should be allowed to play in a lesser competition against Division 3/4 teams, or you don't.

Ahaha you got nothing. You know it's all over the place and you can't back it up

This All Ireland system lets Division 3 and 4 teams play the high grade buster...

I'm not arguing that it doesn't. I'm asking do you think Division 1 counties should be allowed to play the Tailteann Cup. You still can't give an answer lol

I said you can't compare it as it's not an equivalent. If I were to the obvious answer would clearly be no, but you'd run with that as if it is proof of your view. It's simply not an equivalent to compare and this is you trying to twist the argument. Telling you have ignored the actual ones that ARE an equivalent. Let's discuss those as a comparison firstly

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

To clarify, championship status in Cavan is based on "the year before"?

[ClubScene13]

Maybe Armagh posters can explain exactly how their seeding works. Like the Tyrone boys ye have lots to say about Cavan's but when they were pressed on how exactly their seeding works they got very defensive and insulting.

From what I can gather they play league in 2024. Then they play 2024 championship. Then they play 2025 league. Then they play 2025 championship seeded on 2024 league. That's about as much as I could make out of them. Is Armagh the same? If it is keep it thanks.

Look up - do ye maybe want to "look up" at where I explained to ye 10 league matches of 15 are played with county men and the thing is treated extremely seriously? Wouldn't just be the friendlies you're used to, you can debit the merits or drawbacks of any system you want, your attitude is stinking, the neck on you to talk about insulting

Not interested in your opinions or your high horse. You've been on here years "getting your head around" our format. Completely FOS.

Understand it perfectly well mo chara - if you want to read back I have wished Cuchullain's well in the final in my first comment on the matter. You've went off on a complete bender with insinuations about Tyrone Co. Board being cheats. Listen I thought the Arva one was  wrong and pushing the thing to the complete limit. A point off back to back in Ulster is unheard of no?

You have other Cavan posters explaining this in a sensible manner - it must have been an anamoly, hence the well wishes for Cuchullain's. Wind your neck in

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Maybe Armagh posters can explain exactly how their seeding works. Like the Tyrone boys ye have lots to say about Cavan's but when they were pressed on how exactly their seeding works they got very defensive and insulting.

From what I can gather they play league in 2024. Then they play 2024 championship. Then they play 2025 league. Then they play 2025 championship seeded on 2024 league. That's about as much as I could make out of them. Is Armagh the same? If it is keep it thanks.

Look up - do ye maybe want to "look up" at where I explained to ye 10 league matches of 15 are played with county men and the thing is treated extremely seriously? Wouldn't just be the friendlies you're used to, you can debit the merits or drawbacks of any system you want, your attitude is stinking, the neck on you to talk about insulting

Not interested in your opinions or your high horse. You've been on here years "getting your head around" our format. Completely FOS.

Understand it perfectly well mo chara - if you want to read back I have wished Cuchullain's well in the final in my first comment on the matter. You've went off on a complete bender with insinuations about Tyrone Co. Board being cheats. Listen I thought the Arva one was  wrong and pushing the thing to the complete limit. A point off back to back in Ulster is unheard of no?

You have other Cavan posters explaining this in a sensible manner - it must have been an anamoly, hence the well wishes for Cuchullain's. Wind your neck in

I'll post whatever I like, whenever I like thanks.

Thought you found this yearly BS hilarious, at least when talking shit about Cavan. You want to talk football, talk football. You want to talk shit stop crying and grow some hair on them.

[Dreadnought]

To clarify, championship status in Cavan is based on "the year before"?

Yes. Win a Championship, go up a level, lose a relegation playoff you drop down for the next year

[tonto1888]

Maybe Armagh posters can explain exactly how their seeding works. Like the Tyrone boys ye have lots to say about Cavan's but when they were pressed on how exactly their seeding works they got very defensive and insulting.

From what I can gather they play league in 2024. Then they play 2024 championship. Then they play 2025 league. Then they play 2025 championship seeded on 2024 league. That's about as much as I could make out of them. Is Armagh the same? If it is keep it thanks.

Armagh man here. We play 2025 championship based on 2025 league and so on for every year. As for Cavan, I have no interest in how you do your league and championship as Id only ever pay attention to a Cavan team in the Ulster club. And I do not mean that disrespectfully

[Ethan Tremblay]

Ah yes, more "genuine" posters with the same shite year on year. Of course, teams that cannot win an intermediate this year would miraculously "clean up" in intermediate the year after. Reality? Cool story Fr. Dougal.

If that's in reference to my last post, your have misinterpreted it, im referring to Armagh teams.  If a team in the Armagh senior division 1 who placed 4th overall in the league were entered into the Armagh intermediate championship a few weeks later, they would win it at a canter. 

Case in point would happen to be Cross, who finished 4th in the league.  Surly no arguments can be made there?

Works for Armagh at the moment, football is competitive at all levels in all competitions. 

When it comes to ulster competitions, Armagh teams wouldn't usually represent well however.  Bar Cullyhanna 2/3 years back I can't remember an Armagh intermediate/junior team going on a run. 

Again only giving opinions.....

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Ah yes, more "genuine" posters with the same shite year on year. Of course, teams that cannot win an intermediate this year would miraculously "clean up" in intermediate the year after. Reality? Cool story Fr. Dougal.

If that's in reference to my last post, your have misinterpreted it, im referring to Armagh teams.  If a team in the Armagh senior division 1 who placed 4th overall in the league were entered into the Armagh intermediate championship a few weeks later, they would win it at a canter. 

Case in point would happen to be Cross, who finished 4th in the league.  Surly no arguments can be made there?

Works for Armagh at the moment, football is competitive at all levels in all competitions. 

When it comes to ulster competitions, Armagh teams wouldn't usually represent well however.  Bar Cullyhanna 2/3 years back I can't remember an Armagh intermediate/junior team going on a run. 

Again only giving opinions.....

Only giving my opinion too. Not comparable scenarios.

If your Division 1 team in Armagh is that good they could never be relegated from senior championship so could never be in the intermediate to begin with.

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Maybe Armagh posters can explain exactly how their seeding works. Like the Tyrone boys ye have lots to say about Cavan's but when they were pressed on how exactly their seeding works they got very defensive and insulting.

From what I can gather they play league in 2024. Then they play 2024 championship. Then they play 2025 league. Then they play 2025 championship seeded on 2024 league. That's about as much as I could make out of them. Is Armagh the same? If it is keep it thanks.

Armagh man here. We play 2025 championship based on 2025 league and so on for every year. As for Cavan, I have no interest in how you do your league and championship as Id only ever pay attention to a Cavan team in the Ulster club. And I do not mean that disrespectfully

Thanks Tonto. Completely agree. How you do your business is none of mine, same as how we do ours none of yours.

Seeding teams on league for the current year seems more reasonable than in some other counties although it hasn't been explained fully if it's league only or previous championships come into it. Again in Cavan we're never against trying different formats but relegation is a very touchy subject. We would NEVER relegate in championship based on league results. That's simply a no no. Would never fly with clubs here. Relegation only from playing championship proper.

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the obvious answer would clearly be no

I'm glad you've come to the acknowledgement that the obvious answer is in fact no; and that Division 1 teams shouldn't be allowed to enter competitions alongside Division 3/4 teams.

Now try and apply that logic for the next time a Division 1 Cavan club finds themselves entering the Ulster Junior or Intermediate championships.

[ElJeffe]

The same principle would be the Intercounty Hurling system. 5 League divisions, 5 Championships. Not a single League result affects your Championship rating or vice versa. You go up or down in each solely on each

It's exactly the same principle. You either agree Division 1 teams should be allowed to play in a lesser competition against Division 3/4 teams, or you don't.

Ahaha you got nothing. You know it's all over the place and you can't back it up

This All Ireland system lets Division 3 and 4 teams play the high grade buster...

I'm not arguing that it doesn't. I'm asking do you think Division 1 counties should be allowed to play the Tailteann Cup. You still can't give an answer lol

I said you can't compare it as it's not an equivalent. If I were to the obvious answer would clearly be no, but you'd run with that as if it is proof of your view. It's simply not an equivalent to compare and this is you trying to twist the argument. Telling you have ignored the actual ones that ARE an equivalent. Let's discuss those as a comparison firstly

Your idea is based entirely on "Cavan teams do not take the league seriously" therefore that's how everyone should do it

Why don't you scrap the league and play area mini leagues ?

You have to admit regardless that Arva playing Div 1 league and Cuchullians the same as been an advantage to let's say a junior team in Tyrone playing div 3 league teams

It's proven the better the opposition the more you improve

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the obvious answer would clearly be no

I'm glad you've come to the acknowledgement that the obvious answer is in fact no; and that Division 1 teams shouldn't be allowed to enter competitions alongside Division 3/4 teams.

Now try and apply that logic for the next time a Division 1 Cavan club finds themselves entering the Ulster Junior or Intermediate championships.

You make a very valid argument general. In conclusion I think if Man Utd could beat Pakistan in the cricket then no reason Pacquiao shouldn't be beating Joshua.