Amateurism

[Milltown Row2]

Is there a senior county team in div 1  under 80-100k for a management team. I doubt it!

I'd say not. But there's just 32 counties in Ireland.

The club situation is a lot messier.

But in a club situation, is it not usually a business man or a couple of them who chip in to give 'expenses' to the management?

How do you regulate that?

There's no way a county board is paying that out by itself to one man, as like the clubs there will be other 'funding' found to pay for that.

[Rossfan]

There are "benefactors", the sponsored free car, free overnights in hotels (while claiming travel no doubt)....

[Deerstalker]

Is there a senior county team in div 1  under 80-100k for a management team. I doubt it!

I'd say not. But there's just 32 counties in Ireland.

The club situation is a lot messier.

But in a club situation, is it not usually a business man or a couple of them who chip in to give 'expenses' to the management?

How do you regulate that?

There's no way a county board is paying that out by itself to one man, as like the clubs there will be other 'funding' found to pay for that.

Antrim quite literally had on their accounts last year they paid £125k if memory serves me right to their senior hurling management team, McEntee  was slightly less.

[Rossfan]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0829/1530876-the-20-000-question-we-ask-should-managers-be-paid/

[From the Bunker]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0829/1530876-the-20-000-question-we-ask-should-managers-be-paid/

Should Coaches be paid? Should the Bus driver be paid? The lad who cuts the pitch? The lad who lines the pitch? The Physio? The Kit man? The Statistician? The team Doctor? Should players get expenses?

Where does Amateurism begin and finish?

[Milltown Row2]

Is there a senior county team in div 1  under 80-100k for a management team. I doubt it!

I'd say not. But there's just 32 counties in Ireland.

The club situation is a lot messier.

But in a club situation, is it not usually a business man or a couple of them who chip in to give 'expenses' to the management?

How do you regulate that?

There's no way a county board is paying that out by itself to one man, as like the clubs there will be other 'funding' found to pay for that.

Antrim quite literally had on their accounts last year they paid £125k if memory serves me right to their senior hurling management team, McEntee  was slightly less.

Team?

[Baile Brigín 2]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0829/1530876-the-20-000-question-we-ask-should-managers-be-paid/

A strange article. It works on the basis there are no payments and then pitches semi professionalism. So Croke Park are flying this kite now.

[trileacman]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0829/1530876-the-20-000-question-we-ask-should-managers-be-paid/

A strange article. It works on the basis there are no payments and then pitches semi professionalism. So Croke Park are flying this kite now.

There's some moron footballers about who love to talk. That idiot there give the example of All Ireland final day as an example of how much money the GAA makes and offers it as some sort of justification for paying managers.

"82,000 people at 100euro a ticket. And that's just 2 days" says he. As if the GAA is selling out Croke Park 300 times a year and not telling any of us about it. Such a gobshite.

[Baile Brigín 2]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0829/1530876-the-20-000-question-we-ask-should-managers-be-paid/

A strange article. It works on the basis there are no payments and then pitches semi professionalism. So Croke Park are flying this kite now.

There's some moron footballers about who love to talk. That idiot there give the example of All Ireland final day as an example of how much money the GAA makes and offers it as some sort of justification for paying managers.

"82,000 people at 100euro a ticket. And that's just 2 days" says he. As if the GAA is selling out Croke Park 300 times a year and not telling any of us about it. Such a gobshite.

But all that will happen here is managers will get €20k *and* the under the table stuff.

[trileacman]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0829/1530876-the-20-000-question-we-ask-should-managers-be-paid/

A strange article. It works on the basis there are no payments and then pitches semi professionalism. So Croke Park are flying this kite now.

There's some moron footballers about who love to talk. That idiot there give the example of All Ireland final day as an example of how much money the GAA makes and offers it as some sort of justification for paying managers.

"82,000 people at 100euro a ticket. And that's just 2 days" says he. As if the GAA is selling out Croke Park 300 times a year and not telling any of us about it. Such a gobshite.

But all that will happen here is managers will get €20k *and* the under the table stuff.

Exactly.

How anybody could argue that managers make more of a sacrifice than players is beyond my comprehension. If we start paying managers we almost certainly have to pay players shortly after.

[tiempo]

< GPA rep has entered the chat >

Whats this pay for play you speak of?

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2025/02/12/gaelic-players-associations-support-of-amateur-status-cannot-be-guaranteed-parsons-warns/

The only thing amateur about the GAA is its inability to put special interest groups in their place

Jarlath reckons integration will cost £500 million

Its sexy to talk in multiples of hundreds of millions and billions, its all over the news and medja these days, want to be careful we don't miss out right?

[Milltown Row2]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0829/1530876-the-20-000-question-we-ask-should-managers-be-paid/

A strange article. It works on the basis there are no payments and then pitches semi professionalism. So Croke Park are flying this kite now.

There's some moron footballers about who love to talk. That idiot there give the example of All Ireland final day as an example of how much money the GAA makes and offers it as some sort of justification for paying managers.

"82,000 people at 100euro a ticket. And that's just 2 days" says he. As if the GAA is selling out Croke Park 300 times a year and not telling any of us about it. Such a gobshite.

But all that will happen here is managers will get €20k *and* the under the table stuff.

Exactly.

How anybody could argue that managers make more of a sacrifice than players is beyond my comprehension. If we start paying managers we almost certainly have to pay players shortly after.

Experience in intercounty management?

The player looks after one person, himself, his sacrifice is to ensure he's fit and skilled and ready for playing. He goes home and that is his job.

The manager is looking after 30 squad players, his own team, the media, arranging challenge games, prep for match day, dealing with players problems/injuries/form. He's also dealing with the online crap too

I'm not sure its how its beyond comprehension that a manager is doing the same as a player in regards to sacrifice..

The manager is there every day, as much as the player, and then some

[BigGreenField]

What came first, management getting paid or the higher level of committment?

If the sacrifice is too high it should be reduced, I suspect that ship has sailed though.

The further away from amateur status the Gaa moves the cost will be paid by club members and players, simple things like less money to subsidy then insurance/cost recovery fund, less central coaching, less grants for facilities.

A quick Look at social media shows clubs are already wall to wall fund raising - the only place left to squeeze is mandatory higher membership fee's and that really does cut at the heart of Gaa accessibility and availability for all.

[Armagh18]

What came first, management getting paid or the higher level of committment?

If the sacrifice is too high it should be reduced, I suspect that ship has sailed though.

The further away from amateur status the Gaa moves the cost will be paid by club members and players, simple things like less money to subsidy then insurance/cost recovery fund, less central coaching, less grants for facilities.

A quick Look at social media shows clubs are already wall to wall fund raising - the only place left to squeeze is mandatory higher membership fee's and that really does cut at the heart of Gaa accessibility and availability for all.

Clubs would be far better getting an inside man if at all possible to take the senior team (unpaid) and using the thousands saved each year to invest in better pitch/gym/lights facilities even down to basic equipment for underage which would stand them better in the future. Most of the time the clubs paying the manager could bring in Jim Gavin and still have 0 hope of winning a championship.

I know I give a fair bit every year between membership and lotto and various sponsorship and fundraisers and I know where I prefer my money to go. 

[Baile Brigín 2]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0829/1530876-the-20-000-question-we-ask-should-managers-be-paid/

A strange article. It works on the basis there are no payments and then pitches semi professionalism. So Croke Park are flying this kite now.

There's some moron footballers about who love to talk. That idiot there give the example of All Ireland final day as an example of how much money the GAA makes and offers it as some sort of justification for paying managers.

"82,000 people at 100euro a ticket. And that's just 2 days" says he. As if the GAA is selling out Croke Park 300 times a year and not telling any of us about it. Such a gobshite.

But all that will happen here is managers will get €20k *and* the under the table stuff.

Exactly.

How anybody could argue that managers make more of a sacrifice than players is beyond my comprehension. If we start paying managers we almost certainly have to pay players shortly after.

I would. Managers, or at least successful ones, put in more hours than players.

The question is whether they should get paid for it. And if you pay them, you pay trainers, physios, analysts and so on. I can see an argument for this and see no reason why it can't be done above board and with taxes paid. The Dubs will pay more than Carlow, deal with it.

But. And here is the but. Can you realistically have full time coaches and an amateur team being coached?

But hacin