Donegal v Kerry - 2025 All-Ireland Football Final

[imtommygunn]

Lovely.

They weren't a good team before him and they weren't a good team after him. Coincidence?

[JPO]

Thats what I said. Hes a good manager and had good players to work with. It takes both to win anything. 

[Armagh18]

He talks the talk of a modern coach. Utter nonsense It makes him money though. Remember his coaching with Antrim? Very modern indeed however it was brutal.

What could anyone do with that Antrim team? Their best club team that has won 8 of the last 10 county championships has been found out every time they play better teams in Ulster. Just had a look and since 2015 an Antrim team has won one game in Ulster club and that was 2022 pens against Naomh Conaill. He'd be doing well to do anything with Antrim

Armagh clubs would have a similarly shite record in Ulster. Not saying Antrim will be getting to division 1 or competing for an All Ireland anytime soon but they should be higher than where they are.

If they could bring the sort of performance to every game they showed against us in Corrigan they would be close to a division 2 standard team.

Problem is they lost 5 games in division 3 so they obviously just aren't good enough. Maybe they can push on after that performance but I'd say it'll be the same again next year

Did feck all in the Tailteann either which surprised me.

[JPO]

Against Armagh they went for it. They didnt play the normal possession based risk averse game most teams play. Fortune favours the brave so why not play like that all the time?

[Aaron Boone]

It would be a massive coup if Antrim could nab Jim McGuinness.

[Truthsayer]

Against Armagh they went for it. They didnt play the normal possession based risk averse game most teams play. Fortune favours the brave so why not play like that all the time?

Are you actually serious? Last three games Donegal have scored 2-22 v Louth, 1-26 v Monaghan, 3-26 v Meath. (28, 29 and 35 points!).
Have you anything to back up this nonsense you're going over?..

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Against Armagh they went for it. They didnt play the normal possession based risk averse game most teams play. Fortune favours the brave so why not play like that all the time?

Are you actually serious? Last three games Donegal have scored 2-22 v Louth, 1-26 v Monaghan, 3-26 v Meath. (28, 29 and 35 points!).
Have you anything to back up this nonsense you're going over?..

For some odd reason, this discussion is still centring around Antrim, not Donegal.

[Truthsayer]

Against Armagh they went for it. They didnt play the normal possession based risk averse game most teams play. Fortune favours the brave so why not play like that all the time?

Are you actually serious? Last three games Donegal have scored 2-22 v Louth, 1-26 v Monaghan, 3-26 v Meath. (28, 29 and 35 points!).
Have you anything to back up this nonsense you're going over?..

For some odd reason, this discussion is still centring around Antrim, not Donegal.

He's on bout Antrim?! He was slagging Donegal and McGuinness before that. Hard to keep up. Thanks.
Antrim?! 😊

[JPO]

Yes I talking about Antrim. I wasnt slagging off McGuinness either. I was only saying he's not a genius.

[DaleCooper]

Anyone read Jim's book? Halfway through it. Id lost interest in football for about a decade, it sat on the shelf.

Good read so far, amusing anecdote about bulking Rory Kavanagh up. He was spending 70 euro extra on food per week [probably due to quality beef as well as quantity].

[Cunny Funt]

Look at what McGuinness has done for Donegal both times after coming into a complete mess of a setup. The only blot on his copybook (in Gaa) is the ai final in 2014 that Donegal really left behind them. They didn't deserve it that day but really that team should have been beating that Kerry team by a bit and just didn't. I wonder does that stick with him.

Check the media for Kerry ones as they seem to be all over it...

The improvement he's brought in both terms in a short space of time shows what the right organisation, fitness and conditioning can do for a team.

Last years semi final was another blot. Narrow loss to Galway whereby a flukey goal was conceded 1st half and game lost 2nd half with Donegal scoring just 0-5 from 16 shots.   

Donegals 2nd half performance in comparison against Monaghan,Meath in the terms of scores,shots and accuracy has been as good as anything from any team under these new rules.

In the past I'd always look at how a finalists are doing defensively as the saying goes defence wins championships does that still apply in offensive heavy game now?

Jim McGuinness said in February directly after beating Kerry "I think it's almost impossible to defend, the game is just crazy transitional"

Both Donegal and Kerry in their last two games have given up 31,34,35 and 31 shots to the opposition but accuracy of shooting shot selection by Monaghan,Armagh, Meath,Tyrone was average to poor. The question is how much will both concede on Sunday by giving up the same amount of opportunities.

 

[DaleCooper]

He has said he thought about 2014 final every day since.

Will be interesting to see what research he has done into Kerry and how it plays out. Be a fool to bet against them.

[JPO]

What does crazy transitional mean?

[JPO]

Also can you please explain what you mean by shot selection?

[greatpoint]

JPO why do you come across so bitter?