Race for the ARAS 2025

[JoG2]

Can I add tankie into today's chatter? Thanks

[trueblue1234]

Put the problem is if war is declared on you, then the choice for war or peace is taken out of your hands. It's the aggressor who has made the decision. You can't decide peace when you're being attacked. War has been trust upon you. You don't get to make the decision for peace. It's like the auld discussion when you go a man up in the GAA. Who do you leave in the spare role? The reality is you don't get to make that decision. The other team decides it by who they leave free. If war is delivered to your door, the choice for peace has been removed for you.

how do wars end?  no one disputing who invaded who. But there are choices about diplomatic efforts or war efforts, Europe and US choose war, and imo both through that choice and there actual war support have let the Ukrainians down.

but this thread is is about the election.. 

They end when there's an acceptable deal on the table for both sides. They can not end before that regardless of diplomatic efforts. But that's an aside. It was not Ukraine who chose war. The option of peace was removed from them by an aggressor.

But you're right this thread should be more about the election.

you are saying a deal is required before diplomatic efforts, I believe it is diplomatic efforts that lead to deals and peace.

I'm not saying that. But I am saying a war isn't over till there is an agreement. Therefore peace is not achieved until both parties accept a deal. So again the decision of war lies with one side in this.

[weareros]

Connolly's constant refrain that Ireland must use its voice to promote peace.
We seem to have a massively overinflated perception that anyone actually listens to us.

Some would say The Skibbereen Eagle started that trend in late 1800s when it warned the Tsar of Russia in an editorial that it was keeping its eye on him.