Race for the ARAS 2025

[Truthsayer]

Prediction

Something is going to come out about CC which will scuttle her candidacy and she'll have to abandon her bid

Plenty has come already about her. She'll brazen it all out.

Given the history of FFG, I'd wager that if something was to come out about one of the candidates, it wouldn't be Connolly.

I doubt anything could come out much worse for Connolly than her endorsement of Gemma O'Doherty for President. She's likely vanilla now. 

Soft on Putin and Assad, hiring an Éirigí criminal, refusing to applaud Zelensky, Gemma, Moscow Mick Wallace, Kremlin Clare Daly...

I see a list of things you don't agree with her about. I don't see anything corrupt.
P.s. She did clap Zelensky.

She's not above a bit of good old Irish nepotism though is she.

Gifting a council seat to her sister after she'd been recently rejected by the electorate. Tsk tsk.

So she's partial to a spot of nepotism, while Heather is someone who wanted to put disabled people through humiliating examinations to test thier suiability for work and who failed to seek planning permission on two buldings and told journalists who asked her about if to "f**k off and leave me alone". It's a toughie.

Once doesn't cancel the other out.

If HH had pulled the council seat stunt, you'd be shouting all about it. But if Saint Catherine does it, it's not really a big deal. Sure.

This type of thing is rife, in Ireland and in Northern Ireland

She was an independent. Nothing unusual about handing the seat to family member. Which is why this isn't a thing.

Nothing unusual with nepotism in Irish politics? Voters must be used to a very low standard with politicians to accept such contempt shown towards them. Her sister had just been rejected by the electorate. Poor stuff from CC.

Not an issue in this election. It's the council.. who cares? There's MLAs set their relatives up in big jobs in Stormont and all sorts of nepotism down Mexico... no-one will get too vexed bout this.
Find something else...

It's amazing how quickly something that would normally have everyone spewing becomes a non-issue when your favourite candidate was at it.

But sure aren't they all at it, to be sure, to be sure.

Is anyone on about it apart from you? A councillor co-opted by her sister.. and? 🤷
I wouldn't care who done that... wtf is a councillor in the scheme on things?!

[The Boy Wonder]

Surely it's not necessary to quote multi-post threads such as above - most annoying.
Think of the energy costs to run data centres.

Some of the stuff posted is hard enough to stomach first time around without having it regurgitated,

[Wildweasel74]

It's the most annoying thing going, a few single posts drawn out over nearly a page. Just damn lazy!!

[gallsman]

Again, looking a little closer to home, plenty on this board were awfully sore, justifiably so, about the DUP appointing ELP despite her history of being rejected by the electorate in South Belfast on more than one occasion. She isn't Jeffrey's sister either. I'd say if someone did a thorough enough search there'd have been quite a few objections on the board to Danny Healy Rae having his daughter co-opted onto Kerry CC back in 2016 as well.

Just because you can easily say "if the process is broken, fix the process" doesn't mean everyone is automatically being reproach.

Co-option is bullshit that, in my personal opinion, has no place in any modern democratic system. Is it more justifiable/permissible when the elected official making way is elected on a party platform? Perhaps.

[gallsman]

wtf is a councillor in the scheme on things?!

What's three grand in the scheme of things?

[Truthsayer]

wtf is a councillor in the scheme on things?!

What's three grand in the scheme of things?

It's a lot of money to be conned out of by an unscrupulous landlord. And no notion of paying it back.
Was enough for him to jump ship...

[gallsman]

The point is that in the overall scheme of things, three grand is, quite objectively, f**k all. It's not a life changing sum of money.

It's about the principle. It was a scummy thing to do regardless of the sum. Turning a blind eye and shouting "sure what do councillors matter" does nobody any favours. In the overall scheme of things of course.

[Truthsayer]

The point is that in the overall scheme of things, three grand is, quite objectively, f**k all. It's not a life changing sum of money.

It's about the principle. It was a scummy thing to do regardless of the sum. Turning a blind eye and shouting "sure what do councillors matter" does nobody any favours. In the overall scheme of things of course.

You must have plenty of money if you think three grand is f**k all. To most people it is a lot of money... 16 years ago worth more . Jim should have said: "It's f*** all!" 
The councillor thing has been put in the public domain. Doesn't seem to be an issue that calls for her to withdraw from the election.

[gallsman]

Nobody said it was, as far as I can see. I don't think anyone called for her to stand aside.

The question, quite fairly (and like many, many others that apply to Humphreys too) given she's put herself up for election, is whether co-option of a family member, who had previously democratically lost her seat on Galway CC (again, quite fairly labelled as nepotism) is a reflection of a lack of principles.

As I said, there were howls of fury (no Snapchap, I don't have videos of anyone on the board staring at their phone and screaming at it the moment they heard the news) when ELP was brought back from the dead. If it was unacceptable from the DUP, why wouldn't it be unacceptable from an Irish presidential candidate?

[Truthsayer]

Nobody said it was, as far as I can see. I don't think anyone called for her to stand aside.

The question, quite fairly (and like many, many others that apply to Humphreys too) given she's put herself up for election, is whether co-option of a family member, who had previously democratically lost her seat on Galway CC (again, quite fairly labelled as nepotism) is a reflection of a lack of principles.

As I said, there were howls of fury (no Snapchap, I don't have videos of anyone on the board staring at their phone and screaming at it the moment they heard the news) when ELP was brought back from the dead. If it was unacceptable from the DUP, why wouldn't it be unacceptable from an Irish presidential candidate?

That's the difference between an MLA and a councillor. You think anyone would have jumped up and down if ELP had been co-opted as a councillor? They're 10 to a penny being co-opted all the time -if you seen some of the ones elected around here down the years...

[gallsman]

PRINCIPLE

[Truthsayer]

PRINCIPLE

We'll just have to disagree.. I don't think it's a big deal. Councillors co-opted all the time including relatives. Probly didn't raise an eyebrow when it happened. You put a lot of stock in being a councillor...