Race for the ARAS 2025

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From the Bunker

Quote from: Truthsayer on September 27, 2025, 09:17:21 AMMarie Steen supporters (the right wing and religios zealots.. same thing) still doing some girning about her not getting enough endorsements. The sense of entitlement racking up at the last minute to be President of Ireland. Never heard of her before this week.

Had you heard of Jim Gavin's political views a month ago? Had he ever voiced them? Does he really have any? Or are they crafted by ''The Party''?

I am at the age (50's) where I find with most politicians that I don't agree (or agree) with on everything they say or endorse. This happens all the time with the ones I really like or the ones I really hate. I have my own mind.I am not a cloned left or Right person. I take things at face value and base things on experience.

This is why I like a broad choice when deciding who to vote for.

Let the Steen's of the world be on the Ballot paper. If only to shake up the narrative. If you don't agree with her then don't vote for her. If she is saying the wrong thing then it can be only good for her opponents. Not letting her get nominated showed fear from FF, FG and SF.


Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: From the Bunker on September 27, 2025, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 27, 2025, 09:17:21 AMMarie Steen supporters (the right wing and religios zealots.. same thing) still doing some girning about her not getting enough endorsements. The sense of entitlement racking up at the last minute to be President of Ireland. Never heard of her before this week.

Had you heard of Jim Gavin's political views a month ago? Had he ever voiced them? Does he really have any? Or are they crafted by ''The Party''?

I am at the age (50's) where I find with most politicians that I don't agree (or agree) with on everything they say or endorse. This happens all the time with the ones I really like or the ones I really hate. I have my own mind.I am not a cloned left or Right person. I take things at face value and base things on experience.

This is why I like a broad choice when deciding who to vote for.

Let the Steen's of the world be on the Ballot paper. If only to shake up the narrative. If you don't agree with her then don't vote for her. If she is saying the wrong thing then it can be only good for her opponents. Not letting her get nominated showed fear from FF, FG and SF.


No. Just no.

Steen didn't get nominated because she showed up late and did very little legwork. On her, not the system.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 27, 2025, 09:55:11 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 27, 2025, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 27, 2025, 09:17:21 AMMarie Steen supporters (the right wing and religios zealots.. same thing) still doing some girning about her not getting enough endorsements. The sense of entitlement racking up at the last minute to be President of Ireland. Never heard of her before this week.

Had you heard of Jim Gavin's political views a month ago? Had he ever voiced them? Does he really have any? Or are they crafted by ''The Party''?

I am at the age (50's) where I find with most politicians that I don't agree (or agree) with on everything they say or endorse. This happens all the time with the ones I really like or the ones I really hate. I have my own mind.I am not a cloned left or Right person. I take things at face value and base things on experience.

This is why I like a broad choice when deciding who to vote for.

Let the Steen's of the world be on the Ballot paper. If only to shake up the narrative. If you don't agree with her then don't vote for her. If she is saying the wrong thing then it can be only good for her opponents. Not letting her get nominated showed fear from FF, FG and SF.


No. Just no.

Steen didn't get nominated because she showed up late and did very little legwork. On her, not the system.

How much legwork did Heather or Jim do?

Rossfan

No doubt they did within their Parties to get the nomination.
How many Councils did the Iona candidate canvass?
There are approx 25% of Independent Oireachtas members. Ms Steen only got 8% (1 in 3) to sign her papers.


Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Armagh18

Quote from: From the Bunker on September 27, 2025, 09:58:55 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 27, 2025, 09:55:11 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 27, 2025, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 27, 2025, 09:17:21 AMMarie Steen supporters (the right wing and religios zealots.. same thing) still doing some girning about her not getting enough endorsements. The sense of entitlement racking up at the last minute to be President of Ireland. Never heard of her before this week.

Had you heard of Jim Gavin's political views a month ago? Had he ever voiced them? Does he really have any? Or are they crafted by ''The Party''?

I am at the age (50's) where I find with most politicians that I don't agree (or agree) with on everything they say or endorse. This happens all the time with the ones I really like or the ones I really hate. I have my own mind.I am not a cloned left or Right person. I take things at face value and base things on experience.

This is why I like a broad choice when deciding who to vote for.

Let the Steen's of the world be on the Ballot paper. If only to shake up the narrative. If you don't agree with her then don't vote for her. If she is saying the wrong thing then it can be only good for her opponents. Not letting her get nominated showed fear from FF, FG and SF.


No. Just no.

Steen didn't get nominated because she showed up late and did very little legwork. On her, not the system.

How much legwork did Heather or Jim do?
Perk of being in a party.

I'd rather Steen was on the ballot, you're just giving the loopers more to moan about that she's not. But it's her fault that she isn't to be fair.

Rossfan

#500
Hard to expect her to do the dirty work with a €25,000 handbag
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 27, 2025, 12:03:16 PMPerk of being in a party.


More like the perk of joining a party 3 weeks ago!

Armagh18


Truthsayer

#503
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 27, 2025, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 27, 2025, 09:17:21 AMMarie Steen supporters (the right wing and religios zealots.. same thing) still doing some girning about her not getting enough endorsements. The sense of entitlement racking up at the last minute to be President of Ireland. Never heard of her before this week.

Had you heard of Jim Gavin's political views a month ago? Had he ever voiced them? Does he really have any? Or are they crafted by ''The Party''?

I am at the age (50's) where I find with most politicians that I don't agree (or agree) with on everything they say or endorse. This happens all the time with the ones I really like or the ones I really hate. I have my own mind.I am not a cloned left or Right person. I take things at face value and base things on experience.

This is why I like a broad choice when deciding who to vote for.

Let the Steen's of the world be on the Ballot paper. If only to shake up the narrative. If you don't agree with her then don't vote for her. If she is saying the wrong thing then it can be only good for her opponents. Not letting her get nominated showed fear from FF, FG and SF.


She didn't get the nominations. Her fans need to get over it. Who nominates an opponent that is going to take votes off your candidate? Some sense of entitlement crying that she can't be president ffs!

Substandard

Personally, I'm disappointed she isn't an option,  but that's the process, so sin é.
There are a lot of ways to look at it.  Some of the arguments for her inclusion are valid, but if McGregor fanboys and fangirls rolled out more of the things said, they would be greeted with derision,  and rightly so.
However,  it appears in a lot of commentary that layered thinking isn't a thing, and it can be hard to judge from some of the journalists or commentators with the larger platforms whether they lack that capacity themselves,  or if it's a measured and deliberate tactic to shape the narrative.
It would make an interesting case study for hive mind thinking. Throw a dog a bone,  and the rest of the anatomy doesn't matter.  Maria Steen is in the Iona Institute,  so nothing else matters, I ain't gonna listen cos she's a Catholic wing nut.  Heather Humphries husband is an Orange b*****d, so I ain't gonna listen to what she says.  Catherine Connelly is a leftie communist loon that doesn't support Ukraine,  so I ain't gonna listen to her.  I heard Jim Gavin was playing away from home, so I ain't gonna listen to him.
 It's a ceremonial role, a representative role.  And people are missing the big picture- who do you want to see when the All-Irelands are being presented?

weareros

Michael McDowell now saying she is a divisive figure. So if she can't even get votes from right wingers, she can't be complaining. The meltdowns from McGurk, Boylan, Restaurant Gemma, and all the bots has been a good laugh. Ironically any of the 3 left could win, and it will be all down to who comes third in first round of voting and where those transfers go.

Rossfan

#506
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 27, 2025, 01:35:12 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 27, 2025, 01:21:16 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 27, 2025, 12:03:16 PMPerk of being in a party.


More like the perk of joining a party 3 weeks ago!
True..

Going by his posters he mustn't intend staying long.
The Fianna Fáil bit is barely visible at the bottom.

Edit: HH's even worse.
Fine Gael a little button bottom left.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2025, 01:00:57 PMHard to expect her to do the dirty work with a €25,000 handbag

Luckily Michael D would have a more modest standard of living .....

Inside Michael D Higgins two Galway homes including 'tax break' situation over house

Rossfan

I'd prefer a house to a handbag any day.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

DaleCooper

Usually you need to have an ongoing "relationship" with the brand before they let you buy one of the statement pieces. So she probably has a fair spend.

Ferrari/Rolex dealers similar.

Thankfully thats not the case for Hermes ties, that are top notch and affordable[relatively].