Galway v Armagh (Group 4) - Kingspan Breffni

galwayman · June 12, 2025, 06:50:05 PM

Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2025, 06:02:12 PM
Quote from: Cortoon on June 11, 2025, 10:26:40 AMArmagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.

Armagh can only knock out Galway if Derry beat or draw with Dublin.

Not true. Score difference comes into play if both Armagh and Dublin win.
Galway are only 3 points ahead of Derry as it stands so Armagh could knock us out even if Derry lose.

Armagh18 · June 12, 2025, 07:05:35 PM

Quote from: galwayman on June 12, 2025, 06:50:05 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2025, 06:02:12 PM
Quote from: Cortoon on June 11, 2025, 10:26:40 AMArmagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.

Armagh can only knock out Galway if Derry beat or draw with Dublin.
Not true. Score difference comes into play if both Armagh and Dublin win.
Galway are only 3 points ahead of Derry as it stands so Armagh could knock us out even if Derry lose.

I'd expect if we do win it would be a tight enough game given the last few games between us but yeah still possible if we won heavily.

armaghniac · June 12, 2025, 09:04:53 PM

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 12, 2025, 07:05:35 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 12, 2025, 06:50:05 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2025, 06:02:12 PM
Quote from: Cortoon on June 11, 2025, 10:26:40 AMArmagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.

Armagh can only knock out Galway if Derry beat or draw with Dublin.
Not true. Score difference comes into play if both Armagh and Dublin win.
Galway are only 3 points ahead of Derry as it stands so Armagh could knock us out even if Derry lose.

I'd expect if we do win it would be a tight enough game given the last few games between us but yeah still possible if we won heavily.

In circumstances where Galway really need a win and Armagh do not need a win then it is not probable that Armagh will beat Galway by a significant margin. If they do, then that would be an end for Galway.

Armagh18 · June 12, 2025, 09:56:03 PM

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Strong team named as expected, only really Grugan and Crealey missing. Aaron McKay named on the bench for the first time this year I think, delighted for the lad.

Blowitupref · June 12, 2025, 10:05:39 PM

armaghniac · June 12, 2025, 10:09:04 PM

Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2025, 06:02:12 PM
Quote from: Cortoon on June 11, 2025, 10:26:40 AMArmagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.

Armagh can only knock out Galway if Derry beat or draw with Dublin.

No, if Dublin win and Armagh win then Derry and Galway will both have one point and score difference will come into play. As Dublin beat Galway by only one point, and Armagh beat Derry by 4 points then you'd be talking about an improbable Armagh victory by 5 or more points.

David McKeown · June 12, 2025, 11:24:49 PM

Armagh missing arguably their two most important players it seems. Expect a close game now but think Galway will edge it. Like to see McElroy and McKay get at least a half each. Think they could both have big roles to play if they can get match fit for the remainder of the season.

Armagh18 · June 13, 2025, 07:39:42 AM

Quote from: David McKeown on June 12, 2025, 11:24:49 PMArmagh missing arguably their two most important players it seems. Expect a close game now but think Galway will edge it. Like to see McElroy and McKay get at least a half each. Think they could both have big roles to play if they can get match fit for the remainder of the season.

McKay needs to get back into that defence asap. I don't know where McElroy fits in at the minute, both wing backs and wing forwards are totally undroppable the way they are playing.

naka · June 13, 2025, 08:35:48 AM

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2025, 07:39:42 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 12, 2025, 11:24:49 PMArmagh missing arguably their two most important players it seems. Expect a close game now but think Galway will edge it. Like to see McElroy and McKay get at least a half each. Think they could both have big roles to play if they can get match fit for the remainder of the season.
McKay needs to get back into that defence asap. I don't know where McElroy fits in at the minute, both wing backs and wing forwards are totally undroppable the way they are playing.

Would say we might see 2/3 changes on the Armagh team before
Would rest mc Cambridge , murnin and mc quillan
Putting in mc Kay , mc Elroy and mcpartland , Mackin or Callum o Neill

Armagh18 · June 13, 2025, 08:40:55 AM

Quote from: naka on June 13, 2025, 08:35:48 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2025, 07:39:42 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 12, 2025, 11:24:49 PMArmagh missing arguably their two most important players it seems. Expect a close game now but think Galway will edge it. Like to see McElroy and McKay get at least a half each. Think they could both have big roles to play if they can get match fit for the remainder of the season.
McKay needs to get back into that defence asap. I don't know where McElroy fits in at the minute, both wing backs and wing forwards are totally undroppable the way they are playing.
Would say we might see 2/3 changes on the Armagh team before
Would rest mc Cambridge , murnin and mc quillan
Putting in mc Kay , mc Elroy and mcpartland , Mackin or Callum o Neill

Yeah if McKay next or near fit then start him, worst case if he was only to last 10 mins then at least you're only using 1 sub. Vital we avoid red cards/injuries in this game.

gallsman · June 13, 2025, 12:16:57 PM

Armagh barely resting anyone. Grimley and Soupy in for Crealey and Grugan.

Armagh: Ethan Rafferty; Paddy Burns, Barry McCambridge, Peter McGrane, Ross McQuillan, Tiernan Kelly, Jarly Óg Burns; Jason Duffy, Niall Grimley; Darragh McMullen, Rian O'Neill, Oisin Conaty; Stefan Campbell, Andrew Murnin, Conor Turbitt.

SouthOfThe Bann · June 13, 2025, 12:28:26 PM

Quote from: gallsman on June 13, 2025, 12:16:57 PMArmagh barely resting anyone. Grimley and Soupy in for Crealey and Grugan.

Armagh: Ethan Rafferty; Paddy Burns, Barry McCambridge, Peter McGrane, Ross McQuillan, Tiernan Kelly, Jarly Óg Burns; Jason Duffy, Niall Grimley; Darragh McMullen, Rian O'Neill, Oisin Conaty; Stefan Campbell, Andrew Murnin, Conor Turbitt.

There'll be changes before throw in. But probably not many.

gallsman · June 13, 2025, 12:35:05 PM

I'd be surprised. Two weeks off already and another two to come. He'll make changes earlier but I'd be surprised if there's anything really significant before throw in.

SouthOfThe Bann · June 13, 2025, 12:41:29 PM

Quote from: gallsman on June 13, 2025, 12:35:05 PMI'd be surprised. Two weeks off already and another two to come. He'll make changes earlier but I'd be surprised if there's anything really significant before throw in.

Is a 4 week break a disadvantage. How many weeks break did provincial champions have in previous system?

I understand playing a fully new team and getting a pasting could ruin momentum alright.

David McKeown · June 13, 2025, 11:59:52 PM

Armagh will be very interested in what happens in the Tyrone Donegal Mayo Cavan group I would say.

Armagh will probably be hoping Tyrone top the group and Mayo get eliminated.

That would leave Armagh not capable of drawing Tyrone, Donegal, Dublin, Galway or Derry in the quarter final

In turn that would increase the chances of the other group winners to draw one of those teams in the quarterfinals.