Munster Championship

Started by Boards, May 26, 2025, 05:40:12 PM

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Should Munster be made 6 teams like leinster if kerry ever win the Joe Mcdonagh Cup and allow Kerry to ask to be relegated if they are getting bad beatings

Yes
14 (87.5%)
No
2 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 16

Voting closed: June 16, 2025, 05:40:12 PM

johnnycool

Evidently for you the County game is the be all and end all and that's fine, but for a lot of us involved with clubs up and down the country the split season is a godsend and guess what, the intercounty players are also on for the split season as they can plan their lives around it with a degree of certainty.

If anything traditionally the Munster championship was straight knock out as was the entire intercounty championships, do we revert back to that?
And it also can't be about money as the Munster Council have lost out on a huge payday if there was a replay down in Cork!
I understand your dislike for the penalty shootout, not overly keen on it myself, but it's for the greater good unless you're a lazy journalist.

If there's a bit of fine tuning to have the AI the later in July, I could live with that but we can't be going back to AI's in September which in turn push club hurling even further into the depths of winter and into the following year.



EoinW

Quote from: thewobbler on June 10, 2025, 11:22:06 PMEoinW you're going to find yourself lost in a conundrum here here.

The decision to shelve replays in county championships has not been fuelled by money, but by time. And by time, I mean by giving time back to the purest version of the sport: club championships.

Intercounty is the showcase. But it's not the most important thing. This should be applauded.


Excellent point!

However the All Irelands ran to September(with replayed drawn games) for over 100 years.  Haven't the GAA created the time constraint themselves with their invention of the group stage and hurling's provincial round robins?

The use of penalties seems a half assed approach to solve a problem of their own making.  Seriously, they couldn't do better than that?

regardless of reasons, it's still a shame to decide contests on penalties.  Couldn't there be a better alternative?

For instance, in the case of a draw, the team with the better record coming into the contest - Limerick finishing first - gets the nod.  Same in football, give a slight advantage to provincial champions.

Anything would be better than penalties, which are a coin toss and a terrible pressure cooker to put the players in.

EoinW

Quote from: johnnycool on June 11, 2025, 10:26:55 AMEvidently for you the County game is the be all and end all and that's fine, but for a lot of us involved with clubs up and down the country the split season is a godsend and guess what, the intercounty players are also on for the split season as they can plan their lives around it with a degree of certainty.

If anything traditionally the Munster championship was straight knock out as was the entire intercounty championships, do we revert back to that?
And it also can't be about money as the Munster Council have lost out on a huge payday if there was a replay down in Cork!
I understand your dislike for the penalty shootout, not overly keen on it myself, but it's for the greater good unless you're a lazy journalist.

If there's a bit of fine tuning to have the AI the later in July, I could live with that but we can't be going back to AI's in September which in turn push club hurling even further into the depths of winter and into the following year.




The argument for a split season and finding the time for club games is something I can respect.  Therefore I can accept July championship finals.

However the GAA has chosen to congest the May-June schedule.  Admittedly I love the extra games in hurling - footballs's group stage strikes me as redundant(just to give Dublin 3 extra games?) - however this isn't rocket science.  Surely they could have devised a competition that did not require penalties.  Seems like a lazy decision: let's just copy soccer.

Or I'm a dinosaur lost in the 21st century and need to be quiet.

Milltown Row2

Those within the Munster council, who have higher interests than us non Munster lads, have drawn this up with the ok from the county delegates to have a finish on the day final.. Everyone obviously involved with this knew that it could happen, and accepted the decision on the day..

Given what happened would they vote for that again? Maybe not, who knows but I find the biggest amount of people complaining with the split seasons would be county team (mainly) followers and journo's.. Its taken a bitta time to get used to the early finals but they work now, the 1% of the players can rejoin the 99% of the playing members and get prepared to get stuck into their neighbours  ;)

Love the club championships right through to their conclusion, TG4 have brought these small parishes to your living room and the faces on those clubmen in the stand and on the pitch really do it for me
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

seafoid

Quote from: johnnycool on June 11, 2025, 10:26:55 AMEvidently for you the County game is the be all and end all and that's fine, but for a lot of us involved with clubs up and down the country the split season is a godsend and guess what, the intercounty players are also on for the split season as they can plan their lives around it with a degree of certainty.

If anything traditionally the Munster championship was straight knock out as was the entire intercounty championships, do we revert back to that?
And it also can't be about money as the Munster Council have lost out on a huge payday if there was a replay down in Cork!
I understand your dislike for the penalty shootout, not overly keen on it myself, but it's for the greater good unless you're a lazy journalist.

If there's a bit of fine tuning to have the AI the later in July, I could live with that but we can't be going back to AI's in September which in turn push club hurling even further into the depths of winter and into the following year.



There could be a 4 week break in hurling and football in July to start club games and the all Ireland series to start in August.

johnnycool

Quote from: seafoid on June 11, 2025, 07:09:24 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 11, 2025, 10:26:55 AMEvidently for you the County game is the be all and end all and that's fine, but for a lot of us involved with clubs up and down the country the split season is a godsend and guess what, the intercounty players are also on for the split season as they can plan their lives around it with a degree of certainty.

If anything traditionally the Munster championship was straight knock out as was the entire intercounty championships, do we revert back to that?
And it also can't be about money as the Munster Council have lost out on a huge payday if there was a replay down in Cork!
I understand your dislike for the penalty shootout, not overly keen on it myself, but it's for the greater good unless you're a lazy journalist.

If there's a bit of fine tuning to have the AI the later in July, I could live with that but we can't be going back to AI's in September which in turn push club hurling even further into the depths of winter and into the following year.



There could be a 4 week break in hurling and football in July to start club games and the all Ireland series to start in August.

That doesn't make any sense.

What will the intercounty managers do during that 4 weeks? They'll train the bejaysus out of their panels and not let them near their clubs.


Franko

Quote from: seafoid on June 11, 2025, 07:09:24 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 11, 2025, 10:26:55 AMEvidently for you the County game is the be all and end all and that's fine, but for a lot of us involved with clubs up and down the country the split season is a godsend and guess what, the intercounty players are also on for the split season as they can plan their lives around it with a degree of certainty.

If anything traditionally the Munster championship was straight knock out as was the entire intercounty championships, do we revert back to that?
And it also can't be about money as the Munster Council have lost out on a huge payday if there was a replay down in Cork!
I understand your dislike for the penalty shootout, not overly keen on it myself, but it's for the greater good unless you're a lazy journalist.

If there's a bit of fine tuning to have the AI the later in July, I could live with that but we can't be going back to AI's in September which in turn push club hurling even further into the depths of winter and into the following year.



There could be a 4 week break in hurling and football in July to start club games and the all Ireland series to start in August.

Lol - you clearly haven't thought this through