All Ireland Championship 2025.

[mup]

People need to stop bringing Div 1 teams and Div 2 teams to make a point.  The last two All Ireland champions was won by teams that played their spring football in Div 2 and Derry reached back to back All Ireland semi finals having played in Div 2 both years. It's a last 16 now down to the last 12. There isn't much of gap if any at all between those battling relegation in Division 1 and those pushing for promotion to Div 1. 

Would be nice to see a shock or two this weekend but the 4 favourites Donegal,Galway,Dublin,Kerry should win,  what shape they'll be in for the following week against a rested Monaghan,Meath,Tyrone,Armagh remains to be seen.

2 weeks of rest aren't going to make much difference to Meath or Monaghan.

. In fairness I can't see any of the 8 that can qualify from the prelims bothering Meath if we play like we did v Kerry. Particularly with a couple of lads back

🤣🤣 here we go again

[mup]

2 weeks of rest aren't going to make much difference to Meath or Monaghan.

Disagree. The rest will give both a better chance of winning their All Ireland quarter than if they had three matches in consecutive weekends and then playing a rested opponent.

Neither Meath nor Monaghan are weapons grade. They won't get anywhere near Sam.

I think they'll be very hard stopped. How many teams have ever beaten Dublin and Kerry in the one year? Us in 02 and Tyrone in one of their years? Not too many more I'd say. Neither of those will fear anyone coming through that prelim draw. 

Kildare did it in'98. Easy to forget that. 😉

[Captain Scarlet]

Kildare beat the 1995 Champs, 1996 Champs and the 1997 Champs on the way to the final in 1998. The final istelf...is a bit hazy, but it was good fun...

[SouthOfThe Bann]

This weekends predictions.

Donegal v Louth - Donegal should get through this without much fuss. Donegal by 9.

Kerry v Cavan - Wounded Kerry by 21

Dublin v Cork - Cork have the tools to hurt Dublin but you just get the feeling they not playing to anywhere near their potential.  Dublin by 7.

Down v Galway - This has the potential to be a very tricky tie for Galway. Down do alot of things right. But Galway forward quality might pull then through wouldn't be surprised to see Down 5 or 6 up in this game but Galway to pull through near the end by about 2 points.

What does everyone else reckon?

[Blowitupref]

The Draw for the Quarter-Finals of the Sam Maguire Cup will take place this Monday morning on RTÉ Radio 1 as part of Morning Ireland after the news at 8.30 am. The draws will be presided over by Uachtarán CLG Jarlath Burns and Feargal McGill, GAA Director of Player, Club and Games Administration.

The four first-place teams from the Group Stage will be drawn to play against the winners of the Preliminary Quarter Finals, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and, where possible, repeat pairings from Round 1 (Group Stages).

First Placed Teams

Armagh

Monaghan

Tyrone

Meath

Preliminary Quarter-Final Winners

Kerry/Cavan

Dublin/Cork

Down/Galway

Donegal/Louth

The following repeat pairings will not be allowed:

Armagh v Dublin/Galway/Donegal
Monaghan v Down/Louth
Tyrone v Donegal/Cavan
Meath v Louth/Kerry/Cork
The Quarter Final games will take place in Croke Park next weekend, 28th / 29th of June – full fixture details will be confirmed by the C.C.C.C on Monday afternoon.

[seafoid]

2 weeks of rest aren't going to make much difference to Meath or Monaghan.

Disagree. The rest will give both a better chance of winning their All Ireland quarter than if they had three matches in consecutive weekends and then playing a rested opponent.

Neither Meath nor Monaghan are weapons grade. They won't get anywhere near Sam.

I think they'll be very hard stopped. How many teams have ever beaten Dublin and Kerry in the one year? Us in 02 and Tyrone in one of their years? Not too many more I'd say. Neither of those will fear anyone coming through that prelim draw. 

Kildare did it in'98. Easy to forget that. 😉

All Kildare had to do was turn up. It  was a great match. It's a pity that Kildare team never won Sam.

[Dunneroyal]

2 weeks of rest aren't going to make much difference to Meath or Monaghan.

Disagree. The rest will give both a better chance of winning their All Ireland quarter than if they had three matches in consecutive weekends and then playing a rested opponent.

Neither Meath nor Monaghan are weapons grade. They won't get anywhere near Sam.

I think they'll be very hard stopped. How many teams have ever beaten Dublin and Kerry in the one year? Us in 02 and Tyrone in one of their years? Not too many more I'd say. Neither of those will fear anyone coming through that prelim draw. 

Kildare did it in'98. Easy to forget that. 😉

And let's hope they can win the TC. Be great for them

[Blowitupref]

This weekends predictions.

Donegal v Louth - Donegal should get through this without much fuss. Donegal by 9.

Kerry v Cavan - Wounded Kerry by 21

Dublin v Cork - Cork have the tools to hurt Dublin but you just get the feeling they not playing to anywhere near their potential.  Dublin by 7.

Down v Galway - This has the potential to be a very tricky tie for Galway. Down do alot of things right. But Galway forward quality might pull then through wouldn't be surprised to see Down 5 or 6 up in this game but Galway to pull through near the end by about 2 points.

What does everyone else reckon?

Kerry by 8
Dublin by 7
Galway by 3
Donegal by 6

[naka]

Kerry by 11
Donegal by 5
Down by 2 after extra time
Dublin by 6

[Dunneroyal]

I really can't see anything other than the expected results . But this year has been full of surprises.
Can only look back on the teams we played.
Kerry didn't impress me at all. Rafferty for most part kept Clifford very very quiet. Wouldn't say in his pocket but not far from it, and that showed up plenty of limitations in Kerry. That been said Cavan won't bother them.
Dublin gave us a harder game than Kerry  and probably improving as the season goes on so they should progress v cork.
Cork very flat even with Meath hangovers from Leinster final loss. Can't see them beating dubs.
Louth , what can I say the only team to beat us in championship even though we probably left it behind us, inexperience cost us big time. They may be the ones to cause the shock this weekend.

[BillyFlynnfromTrim]

2 weeks of rest aren't going to make much difference to Meath or Monaghan.

Disagree. The rest will give both a better chance of winning their All Ireland quarter than if they had three matches in consecutive weekends and then playing a rested opponent.

Neither Meath nor Monaghan are weapons grade. They won't get anywhere near Sam.

I think they'll be very hard stopped. How many teams have ever beaten Dublin and Kerry in the one year? Us in 02 and Tyrone in one of their years? Not too many more I'd say. Neither of those will fear anyone coming through that prelim draw. 

Very few here are the list of teams below that have beaten Kerry and Dublin in one championship season. Meath are only 5th leinster team ever do it. And Meath are youngest team in history ever to beat Dublin kerry in same championship. Only 6 counties have beaten Dubs and kerry in same championship, they are Meath, Tyrone, Armagh, Cork, Offaly, kildare.

Here below are the only teams in history to beat Dubs and kerry and in the same championship in same year

1 Meath 2025
2 Tyrone 2008
3 Tyrone 2005
4 Armagh 2002
5 Meath 2001
6 Kildare 1998
7 Cork 1989
8 Offaly 1982
9 kildare 1927

[BillyFlynnfromTrim]

2 weeks of rest aren't going to make much difference to Meath or Monaghan.

Disagree. The rest will give both a better chance of winning their All Ireland quarter than if they had three matches in consecutive weekends and then playing a rested opponent.

Neither Meath nor Monaghan are weapons grade. They won't get anywhere near Sam.

I think they'll be very hard stopped. How many teams have ever beaten Dublin and Kerry in the one year? Us in 02 and Tyrone in one of their years? Not too many more I'd say. Neither of those will fear anyone coming through that prelim draw. 

I do think people don't realise how very few teams have beaten Kerry in championship or Dublin in chamionship. Kerry and Dublin have an aura, many teams are beaten before they go on the field, going back generations.

Let's take leinster teams,with exception Meath very few counties beaten Dubs in 70 years, top counties once or twice in 50 years. Very rare to beat Dubs in leinster final

Wicklow, Carlow, Wexford haven't beaten Dubs in championship in over 70 years.
Longford haven't beaten Dubs in championship in 57 years.
Louth havent beaten Dubs in championship in 52 years.
Offaly haven't beaten Dubs in championship in 43 years.
Westmeath have beaten Dubs twice in championship in 140 yrs.
Laois have beaten Dubs twice in championship in last 70 years.
Kildare have beaten Dubs in championship twice in last 50 years.

Meath have beaten Dubs 9 times and 5 draws in championship in last 40 years.

Laois, Westmeath have never beaten Dubs in leinster final. Kildare have beaten Dubs in leinster final once in last 97 years, that was in 2000. Meath beat Dubs in 7 leinster in 15 years in 80s and 90s.

Nationwide only kerry have good records v Dubs.
Cork have only beaten Dubs twice in championship ever in 1989 and 2010.
Mayo have beaten Dubs 3 times in championship in 2006, 2012, 2021.
Donegal have beaten Dubd twice in championship.
Tyrone have beaten Dubs twice in championship.
Armagh have beaten 3 times in championship.
Derry and Down have beaten Dubs once in championship.
Galway beaten Dubs 3 times in 1933 1934 2024.


Regards kerry again teams rarely beat Kerry in championship.
Donegal have beaten Keery once in championship
Derry Roscommon have never beaten Kerry in championship.
Laois Louth Westmeath have never beaten Kerry in championship
Galway have beaten Kerry in championship once in last 60 years.
Armagh have beaten Twice in championship
Kildare have beaten Kerry once in championship in 97 years.

The counties with best records v Dubs is Meath and Kerry and county with best record in championship v kerry is Down. The one county Kerry has never beaten in championship.

When you look at when county beats Dublin or Kerry it usually one of the greatest performances in their counties history by one of the greatest teams ever to come of that county. Just think of when teams in leinster beat Dubs Offaly in 1982, kildare in 1998, Laois 2003, Westmeath in 2004. Or when teams beat Dubs outside leinster eg Donegal 1992 Derry 1993 Armagh 2002 Tyrone 2005 Mayo 2012. Same with kerry think of kerrys loses in last in 70 years to great Down Galway teams of 60s. Offaly in 70s and 80s. Meath, Tyrone Armagh in 00s.
To beat kerry in championship for any county is rare and wonderful thing, exception is Down. To beat Dublin in championship for any county is rare and wonderful thing, exceptions r Meath and Kerry.

[Rossfan]

We bet Kerry in All Ireland Finals at Senior, U21, Junior and Minor.

[Truthsayer]

2 weeks of rest aren't going to make much difference to Meath or Monaghan.

Disagree. The rest will give both a better chance of winning their All Ireland quarter than if they had three matches in consecutive weekends and then playing a rested opponent.

Neither Meath nor Monaghan are weapons grade. They won't get anywhere near Sam.

I think they'll be very hard stopped. How many teams have ever beaten Dublin and Kerry in the one year? Us in 02 and Tyrone in one of their years? Not too many more I'd say. Neither of those will fear anyone coming through that prelim draw. 

Very few here are the list of teams below that have beaten Kerry and Dublin in one championship season. Meath are only 5th leinster team ever do it. And Meath are youngest team in history ever to beat Dublin kerry in same championship. Only 6 counties have beaten Dubs and kerry in same championship, they are Meath, Tyrone, Armagh, Cork, Offaly, kildare.

Here below are the only teams in history to beat Dubs and kerry and in the same championship in same year

1 Meath 2025
2 Tyrone 2008
3 Tyrone 2005
4 Armagh 2002
5 Meath 2001
6 Kildare 1998
7 Cork 1989
8 Offaly 1982
9 kildare 1927

Hate to rain on your parade... 2025 defeats to Meath were only times on the list that Kerry and Dublin didn't exit the All Ireland championship. If that had been at stake... I don't think so

[meathie]

Donegal : but I do think Louth are going to be really up for this one and I think it'll be quite close... I see Ger B is doing a Jimmy on it on the lead up!

Dublin: completely depend on what cork we see. And I think Cork will relish the open space of croke park but dubs back flying and hard to see them lose this in crokers... has potential to be a cracker

Down: I'm going for an upset here. Think Down are playing unbelievable football. Galway are just not 'there' this year but still scraping though. It'll be very close but I'm going with a last minute winner from Down or something

Kerry: if I was Cavan I'd be so pissed off on the build up to this. I hope Galligan has them motivated to a high from all the dismissive comments and they go all out and run at Kerry and give them a right proper game here! Seeing that Kerry are beatable from the last day should give them a lot of confidence too. If Cavan go in the right frame of mind and keep the scoreboard ticking I hope it's a tighter affair than predictions I've seen...