All Ireland Championship 2025.

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Stickittotheman


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Quote from: David McKeown on June 17, 2025, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: trileacman on June 16, 2025, 10:24:24 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 16, 2025, 07:31:00 PMI'd worry about Armagh defensively particularly if MCCambridge injury was bad. That said I don't think Armagh have put two good half's back to back yet. If they do that they could be hard beaten.

Armagh are easily the best defence left in the championship. I can't think of one better than them.

I'm not sure I agree. McKay is a big miss as Will McCambrdige and Burns be if they aren't able to return. I'd play McCormack ahead of McGrane but that may be my club loyalty showing

Is Burns injured too? Didn't know that.
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trileacman

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Quote from: Stickittotheman on June 17, 2025, 11:13:03 PMIt is very difficult to really judge Tally on the season. On paper, ok no victories but there were some signs that the team can still be dangerous. I dont see him being the man to win an Ulster or reach an All Ireland final. Tactically he is a level or two below the real elite managers.

In saying all that any team with McCluskey, McEvoy, McKinless, Glass, Rogers, McFaul, E.Doherty and McGuigan can be a threat to anyone on their day.

Is it worth persevering with Tally for another year? Well the real question should be- after the disastrous managerial hunt last year can we really do any better???

As Tally said himself they played 13 times this year and every time it was against Div 1 teams. They've been desperately unlucky. Kerry and Tyrone's record against Div 1 teams this year isn't much to write home about. They'd be mad to ditch Tally if he wants to stay on.

Monaghan are in an AI QF. Have they beat any Div 1 teams? Louth won a Leinster without beating any Div 1 teams.
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David McKeown

Quote from: trileacman on June 17, 2025, 11:56:34 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 17, 2025, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: trileacman on June 16, 2025, 10:24:24 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 16, 2025, 07:31:00 PMI'd worry about Armagh defensively particularly if MCCambridge injury was bad. That said I don't think Armagh have put two good half's back to back yet. If they do that they could be hard beaten.

Armagh are easily the best defence left in the championship. I can't think of one better than them.

I'm not sure I agree. McKay is a big miss as Will McCambrdige and Burns be if they aren't able to return. I'd play McCormack ahead of McGrane but that may be my club loyalty showing

Is Burns injured too? Didn't know that.

They both limped off so I think it's hoped they'll be ok but you never know. I had read that McKay highly unlikely to feature this year but others were expecting him back this past weekend so hard to know.
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tiempo

Quote from: trileacman on June 18, 2025, 12:02:18 AM
Quote from: Stickittotheman on June 17, 2025, 11:13:03 PMIt is very difficult to really judge Tally on the season. On paper, ok no victories but there were some signs that the team can still be dangerous. I dont see him being the man to win an Ulster or reach an All Ireland final. Tactically he is a level or two below the real elite managers.

In saying all that any team with McCluskey, McEvoy, McKinless, Glass, Rogers, McFaul, E.Doherty and McGuigan can be a threat to anyone on their day.

Is it worth persevering with Tally for another year? Well the real question should be- after the disastrous managerial hunt last year can we really do any better???

As Tally said himself they played 13 times this year and every time it was against Div 1 teams. They've been desperately unlucky. Kerry and Tyrone's record against Div 1 teams this year isn't much to write home about. They'd be mad to ditch Tally if he wants to stay on.

Monaghan are in an AI QF. Have they beat any Div 1 teams? Louth won a Leinster without beating any Div 1 teams.

Good spiel well made

I think Tally is of the Gallagher mould when it comes to mgmt, top tier coach and more than capable as a lead man, the margins are razor thin and he'd come in late etc, would expect a better showing next year if the squad buys in, but ultimately long term Derry need to wise the f**k up and find a Derry man to take the reigns

Cunny Funt

#1685
People need to stop bringing Div 1 teams and Div 2 teams to make a point.  The last two All Ireland champions was won by teams that played their spring football in Div 2 and Derry reached back to back All Ireland semi finals having played in Div 2 both years. It's a last 16 now down to the last 12. There isn't much of gap if any at all between those battling relegation in Division 1 and those pushing for promotion to Div 1. 

Would be nice to see a shock or two this weekend but the 4 favourites Donegal,Galway,Dublin,Kerry should win,  what shape they'll be in for the following week against a rested Monaghan,Meath,Tyrone,Armagh remains to be seen.

Armagh18

Quote from: David McKeown on June 18, 2025, 12:43:34 AM
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Quote from: trileacman on June 16, 2025, 10:24:24 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 16, 2025, 07:31:00 PMI'd worry about Armagh defensively particularly if MCCambridge injury was bad. That said I don't think Armagh have put two good half's back to back yet. If they do that they could be hard beaten.

Armagh are easily the best defence left in the championship. I can't think of one better than them.

I'm not sure I agree. McKay is a big miss as Will McCambrdige and Burns be if they aren't able to return. I'd play McCormack ahead of McGrane but that may be my club loyalty showing

Is Burns injured too? Didn't know that.

They both limped off so I think it's hoped they'll be ok but you never know. I had read that McKay highly unlikely to feature this year but others were expecting him back this past weekend so hard to know.
I thought Burns was taken off due to the card. God help us against that Kerry forward line if those 2 are out. McKay was on the 26 last week so must be close.

JoG2

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 18, 2025, 02:08:57 AMPeople need to stop bringing Div 1 teams and Div 2 teams to make a point.  The last two All Ireland champions was won by teams that played their spring football in Div 2 and Derry reached back to back All Ireland semi finals having played in Div 2 both years. It's a last 16 now down to the last 12. There isn't much of gap if any at all between those battling relegation in Division 1 and those pushing for promotion to Div 1. 

Would be nice to see a shock or two this weekend but the 4 favourites Donegal,Galway,Dublin,Kerry should win,  what shape they'll be in for the following week against a rested Monaghan,Meath,Tyrone,Armagh remains to be seen.

;D

Armamike

#1688
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 18, 2025, 02:08:57 AMPeople need to stop bringing Div 1 teams and Div 2 teams to make a point.  The last two All Ireland champions was won by teams that played their spring football in Div 2 and Derry reached back to back All Ireland semi finals having played in Div 2 both years. It's a last 16 now down to the last 12. There isn't much of gap if any at all between those battling relegation in Division 1 and those pushing for promotion to Div 1. 

Would be nice to see a shock or two this weekend but the 4 favourites Donegal,Galway,Dublin,Kerry should win,  what shape they'll be in for the following week against a rested Monaghan,Meath,Tyrone,Armagh remains to be seen.

Nobody at the start of the championship would have predicted those 4 sides to be in the prelim quarters.  Football can be hard to predict!
That's just, like your opinion man.

Orior

Kerry v Cavan, Kerry by 9 pts
Dublin v Cork, Dublin by 3 pts

Down v Galway, Down by 1 pt
Donegal v Louth, Donegal by 5 pts
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David McKeown

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2025, 07:21:29 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 18, 2025, 12:43:34 AM
Quote from: trileacman on June 17, 2025, 11:56:34 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 17, 2025, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: trileacman on June 16, 2025, 10:24:24 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 16, 2025, 07:31:00 PMI'd worry about Armagh defensively particularly if MCCambridge injury was bad. That said I don't think Armagh have put two good half's back to back yet. If they do that they could be hard beaten.

Armagh are easily the best defence left in the championship. I can't think of one better than them.

I'm not sure I agree. McKay is a big miss as Will McCambrdige and Burns be if they aren't able to return. I'd play McCormack ahead of McGrane but that may be my club loyalty showing

Is Burns injured too? Didn't know that.

They both limped off so I think it's hoped they'll be ok but you never know. I had read that McKay highly unlikely to feature this year but others were expecting him back this past weekend so hard to know.
I thought Burns was taken off due to the card. God help us against that Kerry forward line if those 2 are out. McKay was on the 26 last week so must be close.

Well he was limping going off and after the match although he didn't have any viable strapping or the like.
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Lazer

Quote from: Orior on June 18, 2025, 02:45:49 PMKerry v Cavan, Kerry by 9 pts
Dublin v Cork, Dublin by 3 pts

Down v Galway, Down by 1 pt
Donegal v Louth, Donegal by 5 pts

Hope this is  true

Amazing to see the difference in the opinion of Down now and a month back..

When Donegal put us out of Ulster, the only talk was about what Donegal did wrong so we were able to get anywhere near them..
Down for Sam!

David McKeown

Quote from: David McKeown on June 18, 2025, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2025, 07:21:29 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 18, 2025, 12:43:34 AM
Quote from: trileacman on June 17, 2025, 11:56:34 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 17, 2025, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: trileacman on June 16, 2025, 10:24:24 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 16, 2025, 07:31:00 PMI'd worry about Armagh defensively particularly if MCCambridge injury was bad. That said I don't think Armagh have put two good half's back to back yet. If they do that they could be hard beaten.

Armagh are easily the best defence left in the championship. I can't think of one better than them.

I'm not sure I agree. McKay is a big miss as Will McCambrdige and Burns be if they aren't able to return. I'd play McCormack ahead of McGrane but that may be my club loyalty showing

Is Burns injured too? Didn't know that.

They both limped off so I think it's hoped they'll be ok but you never know. I had read that McKay highly unlikely to feature this year but others were expecting him back this past weekend so hard to know.
I thought Burns was taken off due to the card. God help us against that Kerry forward line if those 2 are out. McKay was on the 26 last week so must be close.

Well he was limping going off and after the match although he didn't have any viable strapping or the like.

Soupy out for the season too I understand.
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phpearse

Be surprised in McKernan lines out for Tyrone again this year. Looked sore going off. Then again same fella would try and play through any pain.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Armamike on June 18, 2025, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 18, 2025, 02:08:57 AMPeople need to stop bringing Div 1 teams and Div 2 teams to make a point.  The last two All Ireland champions was won by teams that played their spring football in Div 2 and Derry reached back to back All Ireland semi finals having played in Div 2 both years. It's a last 16 now down to the last 12. There isn't much of gap if any at all between those battling relegation in Division 1 and those pushing for promotion to Div 1. 

Would be nice to see a shock or two this weekend but the 4 favourites Donegal,Galway,Dublin,Kerry should win,  what shape they'll be in for the following week against a rested Monaghan,Meath,Tyrone,Armagh remains to be seen.

Nobody at the start of the championship would have predicted those 4 sides to be in the prelim quarters.  Football can be hard to predict!

You wouldn't many probably expected that four to be group winners. Real open championship with 2010 vibes off it when we got four All Ireland semi finalists that didn't win their provincial championship that summer. 

For the same to happen this year Tyrone,Monaghan,Armagh,Dublin to reach the last 4?
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