All Ireland Championship 2025.

[Dunneroyal]

Meath and Louth be very interesting. I could be wrong but doubt it's a given Meath will win that. I don't think Louth are as good as other years but you wonder could they win Leinster - I have a sneaky feeling they might. If they did it might take Meath a bit to recover (and themselves).

all bookies have it as tight as could be. 50/50 game tbh. Don't think it would damage Meath at all. I really think Meath will be top 4 team for in and around the next 10 years with the minor and u20 teams been very competitive. That been said Louth are also a coming team should they too transfer the underage players to senior

[imtommygunn]

I think Louth might drop off next year or two - not sure Brennan same level of coach as Harte.

I dunno about top four for Meath but you definitely should be knocking round division 1 and quarter finals / semi finals depending on draw. Definitely some decent underage teams. Great to see you beat the Dubs.

[Truthsayer]

I think Louth might drop off next year or two - not sure Brennan same level of coach as Harte.

I dunno about top four for Meath but you definitely should be knocking round division 1 and quarter finals / semi finals depending on draw. Definitely some decent underage teams. Great to see you beat the Dubs.

Are you for real? Louth championship form has greatly improved under Brennan.

[Dunneroyal]

I think Louth might drop off next year or two - not sure Brennan same level of coach as Harte.

I dunno about top four for Meath but you definitely should be knocking round division 1 and quarter finals / semi finals depending on draw. Definitely some decent underage teams. Great to see you beat the Dubs.

I think we will make quarters this year. Winning Leinster would be huge.  Been top seeds would be a huge help. But lot of quality in the last 16. Couldn't call any team an easy draw.

[Blowitupref]

Just minutes away.

[Aristo 60]

Super work blow

[Blowitupref]

Group 1 - Armagh/Donegal  Galway,Mayo  Tyrone  Cavan
Group 2 - Kerry/Clare  Louth,Meath  Roscommon Cork
Group 3 - Meath/Louth  Clare,Kerry  Monaghan  Down
Group 4 - Galway,Mayo  Armagh,Donegal  Dublin  Derry

[Schkite]

From a Monaghan perspective, will take that

[twohands!!!]

Should really have been rules about avoiding repeat fixtures beyond just the provincial finalists.

[Harold Disgracey]

Monaghan will be rubbing their hands at that!

[Armagh18]

Group 4 will be tasty. Was sure Dubs were getting group 3, maybe its not fixed lol

[omagh_gael]

Armagh potentially could have Tyrone, then Doengal and then Tyrone again.

Donegal will have had Derry, Monaghan, Down, Armagh, Tyrone, Mayo/Galway and Cavan to get to same stage as Kerry. Bit of a joke.

Kerry have Cork, Clare then Roscommon. Some difference there.

Kerry won't be well tested by the time it reaches knockout, could bite them in the arse.

[tyrone08]

Armagh/donegal would be better losing and going into group 4.

Would the draw not be better after provincial finals as now finalists can basically decide if they want to win or lose the game to get into an easier group?

[twohands!!!]

Armagh/donegal would be better losing and going into group 4.

Would the draw not be better after provincial finals as now finalists can basically decide if they want to win or lose the game to get into an easier group?

There's only a week between the last provincial final and the first round of games, so it would make logistics very tight.

There's been little to no evidence of teams managing the provincial final to get into a softer group - can't see it happening in Ulster, Leinster or Connacht. Even in Munster it would be fanciful to see Kerry do it (especially with the group they would be in as winners).

[flowerpot]

Armagh/donegal would be better losing and going into group 4.

Would the draw not be better after provincial finals as now finalists can basically decide if they want to win or lose the game to get into an easier group?

That in a nutshell, an awful awful system - least Kerry got it handy.