Ulster Championship 2025

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blewuporstuffed

Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 11, 2025, 08:14:46 AMI'm still not sold that it was a foul. Watched live and then watched the replay and for me Soupy overcarries and is looking the free. That said, I've seen them given but for me ref got it right, and got most big calls right.
Yeah I would agree with that. Went looking the free when he had run out of road.
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Milltown Row2

Think he was trying to buy a free, as a ref I hate that look up at ya, it's like you're begging for a free.

I just seen it live and thought it was just about the correct decision.

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.

The BBC went to town on it, purely for a story, some what over egging things, which for me makes it look a bit juvenile

Not sticking up for the ref but the bits I seen (was watching the hurling mainly) he looked like in control and wasn't much controversial decisions
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Mario

I don't think it was a foul but I don't think it was a free out either

Jim Bob

Quote from: tyrone08 on May 10, 2025, 11:19:50 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 10, 2025, 11:01:54 PMNo matter if the Donegal player was goading, Armagh should be displinced not to run onto the pitch like that. There be def suspensions as 2 men hit him and another rugby tacked him to the ground. And what the f**k was Forker at with McGuiness, he's one of Armaghs most undisplinced players.still think Galway stronger than either team.

He ain't a principal !

Forker has head butted Murphy and went after McGuinness in the last 3 months. Seriously needs to look at himself and the example he sets as a principal.

tyrone08

Quote from: Jim Bob on May 11, 2025, 08:49:06 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on May 10, 2025, 11:19:50 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 10, 2025, 11:01:54 PMNo matter if the Donegal player was goading, Armagh should be displinced not to run onto the pitch like that. There be def suspensions as 2 men hit him and another rugby tacked him to the ground. And what the f**k was Forker at with McGuiness, he's one of Armaghs most undisplinced players.still think Galway stronger than either team.

He ain't a principal !

Forker has head butted Murphy and went after McGuinness in the last 3 months. Seriously needs to look at himself and the example he sets as a principal.

Apologies vice principal. Its grand then.

tonto1888

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 08:25:05 AMThink he was trying to buy a free, as a ref I hate that look up at ya, it's like you're begging for a free.

I just seen it live and thought it was just about the correct decision.

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.

The BBC went to town on it, purely for a story, some what over egging things, which for me makes it look a bit juvenile

Not sticking up for the ref but the bits I seen (was watching the hurling mainly) he looked like in control and wasn't much controversial decisions

Ref done well. Thought it was a free at first but looking back probably the right call. No complaints whatsoever with the ref

naka

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 08:25:05 AMThink he was trying to buy a free, as a ref I hate that look up at ya, it's like you're begging for a free.

I just seen it live and thought it was just about the correct decision.

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.

The BBC went to town on it, purely for a story, some what over egging things, which for me makes it look a bit juvenile

Not sticking up for the ref but the bits I seen (was watching the hurling mainly) he looked like in control and wasn't much controversial decisions
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 08:25:05 AMTh

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.




I genuinely it was a massive call simply because of the time of the free.
Just like goughs decision, referee calls do win and lose games as much as scores
For me it was a free
But as I said two weeks if will be forgone in the context of the season.

Armagh18

Thought Patton should have been blown a few times for delaying kickouts.

onefineday

Really enjoyable game, imo armagh probably have more to offer in the all Ireland series and I was actually a little bit disappointed with Donegal, who haven't come on to the extent I'd anticipated and I'd lower their chances of all Ireland glory now.

I see someone talking about the running game and its prevalence under the new rules, it may simply be that's what the best teams have been used to playing and it'll take time to transition playing styles and personnel to match the new rules. Kerry certainly have the direct game in their locker, and it's not just Clifford, geaney is having his best year in years too.


David McKeown

Quote from: Main Street on May 11, 2025, 03:14:24 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on May 10, 2025, 10:21:14 PMHaving not seen it back my initial thoughts are these. Great performance from Donegal who fully deserved their win. Comfortably the better side. Decent refereeing performance I thought to bar one or two decisions. Nothings changed on my thoughts on the rules but not allowed to voice that.

Langan Murphy Thompson and Morgan were exceptional. Conaty I thought was best player on the pitch.

Armagh very poor first half with McQuillian looking injured and Murnin and Crealy not looking fully fit.

Donegal seemed to change their defence approach compressing the space between their lines of defenders confusing Armagh. Donegal could and probably should have been out of sight by half time. Poor kicking from Patton kept Armagh in the game.

Armagh showed great grit to get back in to the game and should take some heart from how they fought back.

Both teams will have a big say in the All Ireland series particularly if Armagh get more players back.
I think you are too generous towards Donegal. I thought it was a 50 50 game, Armagh were the better in the 2nd half, that was not just a fightback  and incredibly by some freak incidence didn't score a goal from any one of those 3 close encounters.

Methinks Donegal got away with it, they were just one point to the good in the end.

Perhaps as I say I haven't seen it back yet. My impression was that Donegal dominated the first half. Their change to their defensive structure in compacting the distance between their pressing players and deep defenders created problems for Armagh. Going forward Armagh couldn't live with their attacking angles. Armagh were the better team in the second half but to nowhere near the same extent for me.

It's one of the strangest experiences
I've had coming out of an Armagh match in recent years. Usually I look to blame the ref or the manager or something but yesterday I thought I just had to hold my hands up and acknowledge the better team.

That said Donegal got a lot of the luck or rub of the green and I don't mean that in a derogatory manner I just mean in terms of how the ball broke (off the post twice, for their first goal etc). If they hadn't have gotten that they may not had one but I think that just shows how close both teams are.

I'm still heading into the All Ireland series in positive form. Will be tough though. Dublin in Croke Park will be difficult and I'm out of the country that weekend.
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: naka on May 11, 2025, 09:11:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 08:25:05 AMThink he was trying to buy a free, as a ref I hate that look up at ya, it's like you're begging for a free.

I just seen it live and thought it was just about the correct decision.

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.

The BBC went to town on it, purely for a story, some what over egging things, which for me makes it look a bit juvenile

Not sticking up for the ref but the bits I seen (was watching the hurling mainly) he looked like in control and wasn't much controversial decisions
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 08:25:05 AMTh

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.




I genuinely it was a massive call simply because of the time of the free.
Just like goughs decision, referee calls do win and lose games as much as scores
For me it was a free
But as I said two weeks if will be forgone in the context of the season.


Him giving that free in the first few minutes of the game or last has no bearing on what that team does during it. Games are won and lost over the whole time, not the last seconds of extra time. It's cruel that it is late on but that's part of the game.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

statto

Well done Donegal. Not much between the sides and I expect them to meet again. Conaty top class for Armagh. Rian being back involved a massive plus will take a good side to beat them in ai series.

Truthsayer

Quote from: statto on May 11, 2025, 11:16:02 AMWell done Donegal. Not much between the sides and I expect them to meet again. Conaty top class for Armagh. Rian being back involved a massive plus will take a good side to beat them in ai series.
In the All Ireland final... ticets not ge easy got

AustinPowers

Quote from: David McKeown on May 11, 2025, 10:44:20 AM
Quote from: Main Street on May 11, 2025, 03:14:24 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on May 10, 2025, 10:21:14 PMHaving not seen it back my initial thoughts are these. Great performance from Donegal who fully deserved their win. Comfortably the better side. Decent refereeing performance I thought to bar one or two decisions. Nothings changed on my thoughts on the rules but not allowed to voice that.

Langan Murphy Thompson and Morgan were exceptional. Conaty I thought was best player on the pitch.

Armagh very poor first half with McQuillian looking injured and Murnin and Crealy not looking fully fit.

Donegal seemed to change their defence approach compressing the space between their lines of defenders confusing Armagh. Donegal could and probably should have been out of sight by half time. Poor kicking from Patton kept Armagh in the game.

Armagh showed great grit to get back in to the game and should take some heart from how they fought back.

Both teams will have a big say in the All Ireland series particularly if Armagh get more players back.
I think you are too generous towards Donegal. I thought it was a 50 50 game, Armagh were the better in the 2nd half, that was not just a fightback  and incredibly by some freak incidence didn't score a goal from any one of those 3 close encounters.

Methinks Donegal got away with it, they were just one point to the good in the end.

Perhaps as I say I haven't seen it back yet. My impression was that Donegal dominated the first half. Their change to their defensive structure in compacting the distance between their pressing players and deep defenders created problems for Armagh. Going forward Armagh couldn't live with their attacking angles. Armagh were the better team in the second half but to nowhere near the same extent for me.

It's one of the strangest experiences
I've had coming out of an Armagh match in recent years. Usually I look to blame the ref or the manager or something but yesterday I thought I just had to hold my hands up and acknowledge the better team.

That said Donegal got a lot of the luck or rub of the green and I don't mean that in a derogatory manner I just mean in terms of how the ball broke (off the post twice, for their first goal etc). If they hadn't have gotten that they may not had one but I think that just shows how close both teams are.

I'm still heading into the All Ireland series in positive form. Will be tough though. Dublin in Croke Park will be difficult and I'm out of the country that weekend.

Do you mean  Armagh  would have a better chance of winning if  you were there?  ;)

naka

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: naka on May 11, 2025, 09:11:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 08:25:05 AMThink he was trying to buy a free, as a ref I hate that look up at ya, it's like you're begging for a free.

I just seen it live and thought it was just about the correct decision.

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.

The BBC went to town on it, purely for a story, some what over egging things, which for me makes it look a bit juvenile

Not sticking up for the ref but the bits I seen (was watching the hurling mainly) he looked like in control and wasn't much controversial decisions
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 08:25:05 AMTh

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.




I genuinely it was a massive call simply because of the time of the free.
Just like goughs decision, referee calls do win and lose games as much as scores
For me it was a free
But as I said two weeks if will be forgone in the context of the season.


Him giving that free in the first few minutes of the game or last has no bearing on what that team does during it. Games are won and lost over the whole time, not the last seconds of extra time. It's cruel that it is late on but that's part of the game.
Chuckling Milltown
Spoken like a true referee
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