Joe McDonagh Cup 2025

Started by G@@, March 18, 2025, 01:18:35 PM

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Verbal

There's no way Tommy has gone to anyone at this stage and declared who is or isn't starting Sunday week. No way.

I hope it's not true. Tommy isn't the confrontational type. To lose both Rowland and Cha is mad, but I'd be surprised if it was due to the management being unreasonable.

The infidel in exile

Possibly Verbal, But something definitely happened.

You would be surprised if told you that some Manager's actually do decide quite early ( 9 or 10 ) days before a serious game, that they would be making changes for the final.

I suppose we will never know, but sometimes the manager will personally approach a player, and just tell him that he will be starting on the bench for the final.

Sometimes it allows a player to ponder and then understand the Manager's reasoning for his decision.

Of course you may be correct and it may have been a total different reason as to why Cha has left.

I rang a friend back home who is a Club manager in the County, and it is sadly true. Whatever went down, he will be a loss to the panel, as it's a 20 man game and if, and only if it went down due to a conversation with management, then the team is bigger than one player.

He will be missed as he is a nuisance to any back, tigerish tireless and strong.

But I absolutely have faith in the team as a whole, and I believe that they will die with their shoes on, to win the Joe Mc for a second time.


The infidel in exile

I Watched the highlights of last year's final on YouTube, and although we went down by 3 points to Offaly on a very hot day, we hurled very well, scoring 0.26.

But I noticed something that has continued to haunt Laois stil, and that is the opposition scoring early goals against us.

It haunted us twice in the league and twice in the Joe Mc. I hope that the management concentrate on these errors and lack of concentration early in both halves. They are killer blows.

The Boy Wonder

Haven't seen Mossy Bruce on here for quite a while - he was a great Laois hurling enthusiast from left field.

Riseagain

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Quote from: The infidel in exile on May 26, 2025, 09:27:46 PMOne other thing that I noticed after watching the game twice on Clubber, although it makes absolutely no difference now, but if any of you check the Carlow second goal. The scorer took NINE STEPS before dropping the ball and putting it into the net. Definitely either 8 to 9 steps. I have to agree that the Westmeath Referee gave Laois very little in comparison to the home team. Anyway who cares

We got the result anyway but how was a Westmeath referee chosen as an unbiased referee

I'm lost. How would a Westmeath ref be considered biased?

In this circumstance (or any?)
How about the fact we beat them by 11 points this year and have beat them before in joe mc and league leading to their knockout

And Carlow v Westmeath the week before? How did that go? Bonkers stuff.
It should have been a ref that wasn't from a Joe Mcdonagh Cup county

Laoisred

Pity Cha left/ was told to leave as I have great time for him. Heart on the sleeve with him but you can't say what you want to manager (before full time) and expect no consequences. There has to be discipline from all quarters of the group.

The infidel in exile

Is it at all possible if you could elaborate a little Laoisred, as your being slightly vague. I didn't blame you one bit if you want to leave it at that, but what I am reading into your comment, is that he was angry at being hauled off ( Which was obviously the correct call) and said some rather inappropriate remarks to the management team.

Yes he will be a loss, but thank God we have at least three good hurlers that would slot into that position.

Laoighis Abu

Riseagain

Quote from: The infidel in exile on May 29, 2025, 03:56:03 PMIs it at all possible if you could elaborate a little Laoisred, as your being slightly vague. I didn't blame you one bit if you want to leave it at that, but what I am reading into your comment, is that he was angry at being hauled off ( Which was obviously the correct call) and said some rather inappropriate remarks to the management team.

Yes he will be a loss, but thank God we have at least three good hurlers that would slot into that position.

Laoighis Abu
Yes while its unfortunate it also gives someone else a chance who could prove themselves to be every bit as good or maybe even better.
Of course Cha is a loss its a pity to lose any player unnecessarily.
Not sure exactly what happened would appreciate if someone elaborated but thats up to them.
Tommy is a good manager and part of that is managing people which can be very difficult at times especially when in the thick of a situation where it was do or die against Carlow.

The infidel in exile

I agree Rise again. Anyone who read my posts from around four months ago, would know that I was apprehensive about Tommy taking the roll.

But after what Laoisred, honestly and bravely exposed, Tommy and the management team have gone right up in my estimation. And I shall explain why.

Obviously whatever was said was disparagingly false, Secondly more than one or two heard it, so Tommy had to act on it as no single individual is bigger than the team.

If it is the case then Tommy was 100% correct, as no player has the right to apparently insult or abuse his manager, DURING THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME THIS SEASON TO DATE.

Cha is a good little hurler, dogged and tenacious, But he is no Tony Kelly.

I have a good feeling that this could actually bring the team together, as situations like this actually goes in favor of the management,it might make the boys hurl better by having more respect for Tommy. But I shall personally always be very fond of Cha

The Boy Wonder

You should not jump to conclusions.

Riseagain

Quote from: The infidel in exile on May 29, 2025, 10:23:02 PMI agree Rise again. Anyone who read my posts from around four months ago, would know that I was apprehensive about Tommy taking the roll.

But after what Laoisred, honestly and bravely exposed, Tommy and the management team have gone right up in my estimation. And I shall explain why.

Obviously whatever was said was disparagingly false, Secondly more than one or two heard it, so Tommy had to act on it as no single individual is bigger than the team.

If it is the case then Tommy was 100% correct, as no player has the right to apparently insult or abuse his manager, DURING THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME THIS SEASON TO DATE.

Cha is a good little hurler, dogged and tenacious, But he is no Tony Kelly.

I have a good feeling that this could actually bring the team together, as situations like this actually goes in favor of the management,it might make the boys hurl better by having more respect for Tommy. But I shall personally always be very fond of Cha
Exactly honest unbiased look at what happened and can't  say I disagree with anything that you said. While he is a loss there are standards that have to be upheld and when you cross a line you have crossed it and there has to be consequences.
Tommy is a good manager with a true passion for Laois hurling he will use this to drive the lads on to go further than last year and maybe theres just a chance with everything going well we could perhaps do a repeat of going well. Of course the Joe Mcdonagh Cup is the priority but it would prove we are not to be underestimated next year.
Anyway best of luck to the lads.

The infidel in exile

Quote from: The Boy Wonder on May 29, 2025, 10:39:40 PMYou should not jump to conclusions.
I'm not entirely sure what or who that statement is directed at Boy wonder, but I'm not the person that originally stated that Cha either said stuff to the management, nor was it myself who stated that he had gone from the panel.

I didn't believe that anyone is jumping to conclusions, as it's a fact that he was let go from the panel for the final in 9 days. He will be a loss of course, but we have some very good forwards on the bench. If anything it will make the panel stronger as a consequence.

Laois man

Move on massive game Sunday week nĂ³ point in talking about who we haven't chat about who we have.

The infidel in exile

Fair enough Laois man. In hindsight you are right as it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. I was only intrigued as I live in England so I don't get news quickly anymore.

But onwards and upwards, as it's history now, and all we can do is get behind the boys on the 9th

Laois man