NFL Division 1 2025

[Smokin Joe]

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

That says nothing about a sideline ball or kickout, did you not read it?

Was the Armagh point from a sideline after the hooter?

It was.  I think, technically, a sideline is a free kick.  That is why it was allowed.

[Milltown Row2]

Not that it mattered in this game but can you imagine it happening in the Ulster championship when it could result in a win or salvaging a draw?

[greatpoint]

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

That says nothing about a sideline ball or kickout, did you not read it?

Was the Armagh point from a sideline after the hooter?

It was.  I think, technically, a sideline is a free kick.  That is why it was allowed.

We are discussing the sideline ball at the end of the Galway Donegal game, if you aren't aware. The kick wasn't allowed to be taken.

[Milltown Row2]

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

That says nothing about a sideline ball or kickout, did you not read it?

Was the Armagh point from a sideline after the hooter?

It was.  I think, technically, a sideline is a free kick.  That is why it was allowed.

We are discussing the sideline ball at the end of the Galway Donegal game, if you aren't aware. The kick wasn't allowed to be taken.

And that's the problem, some inconsistencies still, as expected.

Still think too many changes too soon across the board

[OakLeaf]

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

That says nothing about a sideline ball or kickout, did you not read it?

Was the Armagh point from a sideline after the hooter?

It was.  I think, technically, a sideline is a free kick.  That is why it was allowed.

We are discussing the sideline ball at the end of the Galway Donegal game, if you aren't aware. The kick wasn't allowed to be taken.

And that's the problem, some inconsistencies still, as expected.

Still think too many changes too soon across the board

True.

I think sidelines and kickouts are different than frees (because they are as a result of fouls). At least that's what I was taught whilst refereeing. So if time was up you allowed the free, but it had to be scored directly. For sidelines and kickouts the game was over.

I agree that it's unclear with the current rules. I suspect that much of this will get sorted/refined over the course of the league.

[Milltown Row2]

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

That says nothing about a sideline ball or kickout, did you not read it?

Was the Armagh point from a sideline after the hooter?

It was.  I think, technically, a sideline is a free kick.  That is why it was allowed.

We are discussing the sideline ball at the end of the Galway Donegal game, if you aren't aware. The kick wasn't allowed to be taken.

And that's the problem, some inconsistencies still, as expected.

Still think too many changes too soon across the board

True.

I think sidelines and kickouts are different than frees (because they are as a result of fouls). At least that's what I was taught whilst refereeing. So if time was up you allowed the free, but it had to be scored directly. For sidelines and kickouts the game was over.

I agree that it's unclear with the current rules. I suspect that much of this will get sorted/refined over the course of the league.

There's no doubt these ref's are on WhatsApps and that particular one in Armagh was discussed. So, begs the question, was it right or wrong? Should Armagh gained a score from that?

[Mad Mentor]

I'm not really a football fan but I'd have to say the new rules do improve the game as a viewing spectacle for us non experts. A lot of the stupid annoying delaying and complaining seems to have been taken out. Watched the Tyrone/Kerry and Galway/Donegal games and IMHO both winners deserved it.

[greatpoint]

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

That says nothing about a sideline ball or kickout, did you not read it?

Was the Armagh point from a sideline after the hooter?

It was.  I think, technically, a sideline is a free kick.  That is why it was allowed.

We are discussing the sideline ball at the end of the Galway Donegal game, if you aren't aware. The kick wasn't allowed to be taken.

And that's the problem, some inconsistencies still, as expected.

Still think too many changes too soon across the board

True.

I think sidelines and kickouts are different than frees (because they are as a result of fouls). At least that's what I was taught whilst refereeing. So if time was up you allowed the free, but it had to be scored directly. For sidelines and kickouts the game was over.

I agree that it's unclear with the current rules. I suspect that much of this will get sorted/refined over the course of the league.

Do you know understand what the discussion is about after having a few goes at it?

[Smokin Joe]

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

That says nothing about a sideline ball or kickout, did you not read it?

Was the Armagh point from a sideline after the hooter?

It was.  I think, technically, a sideline is a free kick.  That is why it was allowed.

We are discussing the sideline ball at the end of the Galway Donegal game, if you aren't aware. The kick wasn't allowed to be taken.

And that's the problem, some inconsistencies still, as expected.

Still think too many changes too soon across the board

True.

I think sidelines and kickouts are different than frees (because they are as a result of fouls). At least that's what I was taught whilst refereeing. So if time was up you allowed the free, but it had to be scored directly. For sidelines and kickouts the game was over.

I agree that it's unclear with the current rules. I suspect that much of this will get sorted/refined over the course of the league.

There's no doubt these ref's are on WhatsApps and that particular one in Armagh was discussed. So, begs the question, was it right or wrong? Should Armagh gained a score from that?

An inter-county ref told me it was the correct call. A sideline is a freekick in the rulebook and so it is correct that a sideline can be taken after the hooter.

2.9 of the Official Guide Part 2 confirms this:

"When a team plays the ball over the sideline, a free kick from the hand(s) shall be awarded to the
opposing team from outside the boundary line from the place where the ball crossed
the sideline."

[OakLeaf]

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

That says nothing about a sideline ball or kickout, did you not read it?

Was the Armagh point from a sideline after the hooter?

It was.  I think, technically, a sideline is a free kick.  That is why it was allowed.

We are discussing the sideline ball at the end of the Galway Donegal game, if you aren't aware. The kick wasn't allowed to be taken.

And that's the problem, some inconsistencies still, as expected.

Still think too many changes too soon across the board

True.

I think sidelines and kickouts are different than frees (because they are as a result of fouls). At least that's what I was taught whilst refereeing. So if time was up you allowed the free, but it had to be scored directly. For sidelines and kickouts the game was over.

I agree that it's unclear with the current rules. I suspect that much of this will get sorted/refined over the course of the league.

Do you know understand what the discussion is about after having a few goes at it?

I do now that it has been brought into the conversation, but you didn't reference that in your original question, which was:

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

You didn't like my wording (which was poor enough to be fair), and you've been snarky ever since. Lighten up a bit. It's a discussion

[Wildweasel74]

Buzzer goes on 70mins. Donegal could pointed out to the ref,we still a sideline, but with the score they weren't arguing much.

[OakLeaf]

Buzzer goes on 70mins. Donegal could pointed out to the ref,we still a sideline, but with the score they weren't arguing much.

I can't remember where that sideline was from, but it would still have to be scored directly, as far as I know.

I had a quick look through the rules there and I can't see anything that talks about what happens when time is up, and there is a foul, sideline, kickout or 45. I'll have a closer look tomorrow. MR2, do you know where that's at in the rules?

[seafoid]

Time to jettison Salthill.

Tuam is a much better option

[seafoid]

I predict it will be 'a game of both halves'

It's very like cricket. Galway declared for 17.
Donegal declared for 14 all out. 

[David McKeown]

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Are you asking why is the clock continuing to count up when there is a dead ball (i.e. should the clock not stop once the ball goes dead?) Its just thats a question I had at the start but the clock doesnt stop for dead balls