NFL Division 1 2025

Started by Blowitupref, January 15, 2025, 04:10:17 PM

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Who will win the Div 1 final

Kerry
2 (40%)
Mayo
3 (60%)

Total Members Voted: 5

Voting closed: March 29, 2025, 01:26:17 PM

Truthsayer

Quote from: befair on March 31, 2025, 03:03:17 PMThat Mayo team were admired and respected; the only side that gave the Dubs any worthwhile challenge. They'll be remembered when many Sam Maguire winners are forgotten
True bout great team in magnificent battles with the Dubs... not so sure a Sam Maguire team will be forgotten tho. I certainly haven't forgotten any of them.. even great one-offs... Derry '93, Donegal '92, '12 Armagh '02  '24 Cork '10, Offaly '82... would love to see Mayo join that.   

Blowitupref

Quote from: befair on March 31, 2025, 03:03:17 PMThat Mayo team were admired and respected; the only side that gave the Dubs any worthwhile challenge. They'll be remembered when many Sam Maguire winners are forgotten

Kerry also gave them a challenge.  Was one score between them in that poor quality 2015 All Ireland final and the following year Dublin needed two added time points to get past Kerry in the All Ireland semi final.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

SouthOfThe Bann

#1922
Quote from: befair on March 31, 2025, 03:03:17 PMThat Mayo team were admired and respected; the only side that gave the Dubs any worthwhile challenge. They'll be remembered when many Sam Maguire winners are forgotten

So do you reckon, if that great Dublin team didn't exist, that Mayo would have won at least one all ireland?

History and results they had in them exact same years, would tell us that they still would have fell short.

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Blowitupref on March 31, 2025, 06:34:15 PM
Quote from: befair on March 31, 2025, 03:03:17 PMThat Mayo team were admired and respected; the only side that gave the Dubs any worthwhile challenge. They'll be remembered when many Sam Maguire winners are forgotten

Kerry also gave them a challenge.  Was one score between them in that poor quality 2015 All Ireland final and the following year Dublin needed two added time points to get past Kerry in the All Ireland semi final.

Kerry drew with them in 2019 too.

Armagh18

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 31, 2025, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 31, 2025, 06:34:15 PM
Quote from: befair on March 31, 2025, 03:03:17 PMThat Mayo team were admired and respected; the only side that gave the Dubs any worthwhile challenge. They'll be remembered when many Sam Maguire winners are forgotten

Kerry also gave them a challenge.  Was one score between them in that poor quality 2015 All Ireland final and the following year Dublin needed two added time points to get past Kerry in the All Ireland semi final.

Kerry drew with them in 2019 too.
Well drew against 14 men and were well beat in the replay. From what I remember of 2015 Dublin were in control the whole time.

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2025, 08:01:28 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 31, 2025, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 31, 2025, 06:34:15 PM
Quote from: befair on March 31, 2025, 03:03:17 PMThat Mayo team were admired and respected; the only side that gave the Dubs any worthwhile challenge. They'll be remembered when many Sam Maguire winners are forgotten

Kerry also gave them a challenge.  Was one score between them in that poor quality 2015 All Ireland final and the following year Dublin needed two added time points to get past Kerry in the All Ireland semi final.

Kerry drew with them in 2019 too.
Well drew against 14 men and were well beat in the replay. From what I remember of 2015 Dublin were in control the whole time.

Correct was arguably a bigger bottle job than any of Mayos

AustinPowers

#1926
Quote from: befair on March 31, 2025, 03:03:17 PMThat Mayo team were admired and respected; the only side that gave the Dubs any worthwhile challenge. They'll be remembered when many Sam Maguire winners are forgotten

I think they'll be (probably unfairly)  remembered as 'nearly men'. 

Unfortunately, moments like  Heneally dropping that ball and  giving away a penalty, COC hitting the post , Vaughan silly red card,  COC tapping over instead of working a goal chance 2013 etc etc , will be what people remember, given they  didn't get over the  line.

They did give Dublin in particular some great, close games , but ultimately they didn't  win it.  People  scoffed at Armagh's "one in a row" and Derry the same. But at the end of the day , one in a row or not , they  each won an All Ireland, so  they'll  forever be remembered moreso  than  very good teams (like Mayo) who just  didn't get over the line.

Wildweasel74

Dublin hadn't been round, that Mayo team would won a few All-Irelands, what other team was gonna cone out of the woodwork that Dublin didn't already trounce.

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 31, 2025, 08:59:19 PMDublin hadn't been round, that Mayo team would won a few All-Irelands, what other team was gonna cone out of the woodwork that Dublin didn't already trounce.

Dublin weren't around in 2012 2014 and 2021 and what happened?

Tyrone came out of the woodwork; Kerry came out of the woodwork.

Donegal the only team out of those 3 years that were on a journey towards an All Ireland.

Captain Obvious

From 2015 to 2019 both Mayo and Kerry got Dublin on days they were beatable however didn't seal the deal as they found ways to lose instead.

larryin89

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 31, 2025, 10:16:11 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 31, 2025, 08:59:19 PMDublin hadn't been round, that Mayo team would won a few All-Irelands, what other team was gonna cone out of the woodwork that Dublin didn't already trounce.

Dublin weren't around in 2012 2014 and 2021 and what happened?

Tyrone came out of the woodwork; Kerry came out of the woodwork.

Donegal the only team out of those 3 years that were on a journey towards an All Ireland.

Dublin werent around in 2012 cause we beat them in semi final , Kerry won in 2014 cause Cormac Reilly cheated , 2021 I still can't explain it .
Walk-in down mchale rd , sun out, summers day , game day . That's all .

Truthsayer

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 31, 2025, 10:16:11 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 31, 2025, 08:59:19 PMDublin hadn't been round, that Mayo team would won a few All-Irelands, what other team was gonna cone out of the woodwork that Dublin didn't already trounce.

Dublin weren't around in 2012 2014 and 2021 and what happened?

Tyrone came out of the woodwork; Kerry came out of the woodwork.

Donegal the only team out of those 3 years that were on a journey towards an All Ireland.
Dublin were around.. they were beaten  :D

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Truthsayer on March 31, 2025, 10:47:26 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 31, 2025, 10:16:11 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 31, 2025, 08:59:19 PMDublin hadn't been round, that Mayo team would won a few All-Irelands, what other team was gonna cone out of the woodwork that Dublin didn't already trounce.

Dublin weren't around in 2012 2014 and 2021 and what happened?

Tyrone came out of the woodwork; Kerry came out of the woodwork.

Donegal the only team out of those 3 years that were on a journey towards an All Ireland.
Dublin were around.. they were beaten  :D

And Mayo beat them 2 out of those 3 years.  They went through a phase of beating the all ireland champions several years in a row.

I think the point is I don't think it mattered who Mayo played in the finals they somehow found a way to lose as we seen in 2021.

So why would it have mattered if it was Kerry they played in 2016 final or Tyrone in 2017 final.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: larryin89 on March 31, 2025, 10:32:33 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 31, 2025, 10:16:11 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 31, 2025, 08:59:19 PMDublin hadn't been round, that Mayo team would won a few All-Irelands, what other team was gonna cone out of the woodwork that Dublin didn't already trounce.

Dublin weren't around in 2012 2014 and 2021 and what happened?

Tyrone came out of the woodwork; Kerry came out of the woodwork.

Donegal the only team out of those 3 years that were on a journey towards an All Ireland.

Dublin werent around in 2012 cause we beat them in semi final , Kerry won in 2014 cause Cormac Reilly cheated , 2021 I still can't explain it .

Can you explain why you were so cocky before the 2021 All Ireland final?

QuoteWhat would you like me to tell ya that mcshane off the bench is going to make the difference , that mattie Donnelly is unremarkable, that its too close to call,its 50/50. I dont believe any of the narrative spun about this been close , we are a far better outfit than Tyrone,  a possible hb line of oisin , paddy and eoghan if fit with Leroy pushing up from the last line as we get a foothold is unstoppable , nothing and I mean nothing is going to stop Mayo winning the all Ireland.  Who the fook are Tyrone anyway ,last time I seen them in a final they were attroslcious . Nobody mentioned Tyrone all year, now all of a sudden cause they got a sloppy victory over a disorganised disjointed poorly set up kerry they are world beaters . Mayo by 7-9 points easy


Wildweasel74

#1934
Only Mayo and Donegal had beat Dublin in that period, Kerry and Tyrone won all-Irelands cause Mayo knocked Dublin out, you should be thankful for them.