NFL Division 1 2025

[JoG2]

Derry to line out a near full reserve team, and just focus on Donegal, atrocious injury list at the minute.

The injury list is overstated due to the lack of depth in the squad those highlighted below are lads who have played significant minutes over the last number of years and would get minutes if Derry were full out. 

Odhran Lynch, Diarmuid Baker, Eoin McEvoy, Martin Bradley, Conor Doherty, Padraig McGrogan, Patrick McGurk, Conor Glass, Anton Tohill, Ethan Doherty, Niall Toner, Dan Higgins, Niall Loughlin, Shane McGuigan, Paul Cassidy.

Bradley has had a decent campaign and would expect he will figure against Donegal and McGurk and Higgins have shown potential.  If talk is right they have lost Lynch(who hasn't played the majority of the league as was deemed second choice), McCluskey, Rogers, McFaul and McKinless, Murray and Gilmore( don't think he plays if everyone fit). 

Injury list overstated and then you list pretty much half the starting team

Lynch hasn't been selected for the majority of games, which would indicate Tally would have concerns about him. 

Rogers and Murray have been available for alot of the league.  McFaul, McKinless and McCluskey are losses obviously. 

In league football most sides in Division 1 would have 4/5 lads that are getting their chances alongside more established players week on week.  Derry would have been the exception to this last year when playing strongest team week on week, which was two fold as never developed any depth to the panel and also didn't give rest to the like of the Glen players who needed a rest. 

Maybe in years gone by, not these days for the first half of the league games.. Teams generally go as strong as they can with the player available

[Estimator]

Derry to line out a near full reserve team, and just focus on Donegal, atrocious injury list at the minute.

The injury list is overstated due to the lack of depth in the squad those highlighted below are lads who have played significant minutes over the last number of years and would get minutes if Derry were full out. 

Odhran Lynch, Diarmuid Baker, Eoin McEvoy, Martin Bradley, Conor Doherty, Padraig McGrogan, Patrick McGurk, Conor Glass, Anton Tohill, Ethan Doherty, Niall Toner, Dan Higgins, Niall Loughlin, Shane McGuigan, Paul Cassidy.

Bradley has had a decent campaign and would expect he will figure against Donegal and McGurk and Higgins have shown potential.  If talk is right they have lost Lynch(who hasn't played the majority of the league as was deemed second choice), McCluskey, Rogers, McFaul and McKinless, Murray and Gilmore( don't think he plays if everyone fit). 

Injury list overstated and then you list pretty much half the starting team

Lynch hasn't been selected for the majority of games, which would indicate Tally would have concerns about him. 

Rogers and Murray have been available for alot of the league.  McFaul, McKinless and McCluskey are losses obviously. 

In league football most sides in Division 1 would have 4/5 lads that are getting their chances alongside more established players week on week.  Derry would have been the exception to this last year when playing strongest team week on week, which was two fold as never developed any depth to the panel and also didn't give rest to the like of the Glen players who needed a rest. 

Lynch started the Tyrone, Donegal and Mayo games, and would definitely be starting against Armagh if fit.

McNicholl started the Dublin, Kerry and Galway games. So it's a 50/50 split before the final game.

I'd say Tallys concerns around Lynch were more to do with mobility for the 12v11, but that rule has gone now and Lynch was 1st choice again.

Also the likes of McGrogan and Laughlin are just off the back of long term injuries. They are no where near full fitness and have yet to play an entire 70mins yet.

[statto]

Derry to line out a near full reserve team, and just focus on Donegal, atrocious injury list at the minute.

The injury list is overstated due to the lack of depth in the squad those highlighted below are lads who have played significant minutes over the last number of years and would get minutes if Derry were full out. 

Odhran Lynch, Diarmuid Baker, Eoin McEvoy, Martin Bradley, Conor Doherty, Padraig McGrogan, Patrick McGurk, Conor Glass, Anton Tohill, Ethan Doherty, Niall Toner, Dan Higgins, Niall Loughlin, Shane McGuigan, Paul Cassidy.

Bradley has had a decent campaign and would expect he will figure against Donegal and McGurk and Higgins have shown potential.  If talk is right they have lost Lynch(who hasn't played the majority of the league as was deemed second choice), McCluskey, Rogers, McFaul and McKinless, Murray and Gilmore( don't think he plays if everyone fit). 

Injury list overstated and then you list pretty much half the starting team

Lynch hasn't been selected for the majority of games, which would indicate Tally would have concerns about him. 

Rogers and Murray have been available for alot of the league.  McFaul, McKinless and McCluskey are losses obviously. 

In league football most sides in Division 1 would have 4/5 lads that are getting their chances alongside more established players week on week.  Derry would have been the exception to this last year when playing strongest team week on week, which was two fold as never developed any depth to the panel and also didn't give rest to the like of the Glen players who needed a rest. 

Lynch started the Tyrone, Donegal and Mayo games, and would definitely be starting against Armagh if fit.

McNicholl started the Dublin, Kerry and Galway games. So it's a 50/50 split before the final game.

I'd say Tallys concerns around Lynch were more to do with mobility for the 12v11, but that rule has gone now and Lynch was 1st choice again.

Also the likes of McGrogan and Laughlin are just off the back of long term injuries. They are no where near full fitness and have yet to play an entire 70mins yet.

Fair enough points, given the number of goals conceded and the change in rule Lynch would probably be first choice. 

[marty34]

Have put 50 on Kerry for the league @11/1

Galway and Donegal looking to be avoiding final

Tyrone needs the points and should edge the dubs.

we could more than likely have a kerry and mayo final.


Galway 7/5

Dublin 15/8

Mayo 9/2

Donegal 6/1

Kerry 11/1

Would Mayo not want to be avoiding the league final more than Galway.

I know Galway have to travel to New York the week after but Mayo have a potentially tricky tie v Sligo the same weekend.

Has there been research done into output of a championship game V a national league game?

By that I mean, intensity, sprints and meters covered etc. Just to compare the 2.

I mean being at some championship games this past few years, they were as dead as league games. Maybe because of the type of football i.e. lateral passing from one side to the other and it didn't seen too intense.

I'm just wondering why teams are avoiding getting to and winning the league final.

[Aaron Boone]

Dublin & Derry went to extra-time in last year's final. It was a tough game & an emotional day. Both exited the championship tamely.

[JoG2]

Dublin & Derry went to extra-time in last year's final. It was a tough game & an emotional day. Both exited the championship tamely.

That had diddly to do with either Dublin or Derry's championships... You'd think a football game is the equivalent to a 3 month stint in a Siberian jail with some folk in here

[thewobbler]

Dublin & Derry went to extra-time in last year's final. It was a tough game & an emotional day. Both exited the championship tamely.

That had diddly to do with either Dublin or Derry's championships... You'd think a football game is the equivalent to a 3 month stint in a Siberian jail with some folk in here

That made me chuckle.

It's a rare thing for anyone to accept that the reason for their exit is they met a better team. In Derry's case, one with more scoring power. In Dublin's case, one with just the right amount of physicality and legs to see off an ageing side.

[Mario]

Derry to line out a near full reserve team, and just focus on Donegal, atrocious injury list at the minute.

The injury list is overstated due to the lack of depth in the squad those highlighted below are lads who have played significant minutes over the last number of years and would get minutes if Derry were full out. 

Odhran Lynch, Diarmuid Baker, Eoin McEvoy, Martin Bradley, Conor Doherty, Padraig McGrogan, Patrick McGurk, Conor Glass, Anton Tohill, Ethan Doherty, Niall Toner, Dan Higgins, Niall Loughlin, Shane McGuigan, Paul Cassidy.

Bradley has had a decent campaign and would expect he will figure against Donegal and McGurk and Higgins have shown potential.  If talk is right they have lost Lynch(who hasn't played the majority of the league as was deemed second choice), McCluskey, Rogers, McFaul and McKinless, Murray and Gilmore( don't think he plays if everyone fit). 

Injury list overstated and then you list pretty much half the starting team

Lynch hasn't been selected for the majority of games, which would indicate Tally would have concerns about him. 

Rogers and Murray have been available for alot of the league.  McFaul, McKinless and McCluskey are losses obviously. 

In league football most sides in Division 1 would have 4/5 lads that are getting their chances alongside more established players week on week.  Derry would have been the exception to this last year when playing strongest team week on week, which was two fold as never developed any depth to the panel and also didn't give rest to the like of the Glen players who needed a rest. 

Lynch started the Tyrone, Donegal and Mayo games, and would definitely be starting against Armagh if fit.

McNicholl started the Dublin, Kerry and Galway games. So it's a 50/50 split before the final game.

I'd say Tallys concerns around Lynch were more to do with mobility for the 12v11, but that rule has gone now and Lynch was 1st choice again.

Also the likes of McGrogan and Laughlin are just off the back of long term injuries. They are no where near full fitness and have yet to play an entire 70mins yet.

Fair enough points, given the number of goals conceded and the change in rule Lynch would probably be first choice. 

You are right that our injuries are overstated due to lack of depth but they are also top level players. Lynch, McFaul, Rogers, McCloskey, Murray, Mckinless would start on any team in the country. The drop off in quality without those lads is vast.

[Truthsayer]

Dublin & Derry went to extra-time in last year's final. It was a tough game & an emotional day. Both exited the championship tamely.

That had diddly to do with either Dublin or Derry's championships... You'd think a football game is the equivalent to a 3 month stint in a Siberian jail with some folk in here

Not sure Derry winning the league did them any favours.. hype was through the roof and was all talk then of Harte and winning the Sam Maguire Cup.. meltdown after. At time was people couldn't have even told you who won league the previous year... Mayo : )

[statto]

Derry to line out a near full reserve team, and just focus on Donegal, atrocious injury list at the minute.

The injury list is overstated due to the lack of depth in the squad those highlighted below are lads who have played significant minutes over the last number of years and would get minutes if Derry were full out. 

Odhran Lynch, Diarmuid Baker, Eoin McEvoy, Martin Bradley, Conor Doherty, Padraig McGrogan, Patrick McGurk, Conor Glass, Anton Tohill, Ethan Doherty, Niall Toner, Dan Higgins, Niall Loughlin, Shane McGuigan, Paul Cassidy.

Bradley has had a decent campaign and would expect he will figure against Donegal and McGurk and Higgins have shown potential.  If talk is right they have lost Lynch(who hasn't played the majority of the league as was deemed second choice), McCluskey, Rogers, McFaul and McKinless, Murray and Gilmore( don't think he plays if everyone fit). 

Injury list overstated and then you list pretty much half the starting team

Lynch hasn't been selected for the majority of games, which would indicate Tally would have concerns about him. 

Rogers and Murray have been available for alot of the league.  McFaul, McKinless and McCluskey are losses obviously. 

In league football most sides in Division 1 would have 4/5 lads that are getting their chances alongside more established players week on week.  Derry would have been the exception to this last year when playing strongest team week on week, which was two fold as never developed any depth to the panel and also didn't give rest to the like of the Glen players who needed a rest. 

Lynch started the Tyrone, Donegal and Mayo games, and would definitely be starting against Armagh if fit.

McNicholl started the Dublin, Kerry and Galway games. So it's a 50/50 split before the final game.

I'd say Tallys concerns around Lynch were more to do with mobility for the 12v11, but that rule has gone now and Lynch was 1st choice again.

Also the likes of McGrogan and Laughlin are just off the back of long term injuries. They are no where near full fitness and have yet to play an entire 70mins yet.

Fair enough points, given the number of goals conceded and the change in rule Lynch would probably be first choice. 

You are right that our injuries are overstated due to lack of depth but they are also top level players. Lynch, McFaul, Rogers, McCloskey, Murray, Mckinless would start on any team in the country. The drop off in quality without those lads is vast.

Lynch wouldn't start for most other division one sides, Murray while he has alot of potential don't know if he starts in any team in the country.

[Mario]

With the new rules there aren't many better keepers than Lynch. He's a great shot stopper, has never been beat in a penalty shootout, is great off the tee. Often derided last year because of what he was asked to do but it wasnt his fault when teammates got turned over out the pitch.

If Murray is fit I can't think of a team he wouldn't start on. Dublin maybe.

[cornetto]

Two defenders injured for Galway, McHugh one of them and either McGrath or Fitzgerald .Galway will be all out for a league final,Mr Joyce very disappointed with them after the dubs game.Rob finnerty not too pleased about the public dressing down.lets hope he gives him another chance this week to answer his critics.

[mackers]

With the new rules there aren't many better keepers than Lynch. He's a great shot stopper, has never been beat in a penalty shootout, is great off the tee. Often derided last year because of what he was asked to do but it wasnt his fault when teammates got turned over out the pitch.

If Murray is fit I can't think of a team he wouldn't start on. Dublin maybe.

He's a very good shot stopper for sure, he made some great saves in the penalty shootout with us in the Ulster Final in 23 but he's way too immobile for the new rules. A weak link. Shot stopping is down the list of what is required for a modern keeper.

[oakleaflad]

With the new rules there aren't many better keepers than Lynch. He's a great shot stopper, has never been beat in a penalty shootout, is great off the tee. Often derided last year because of what he was asked to do but it wasnt his fault when teammates got turned over out the pitch.

If Murray is fit I can't think of a team he wouldn't start on. Dublin maybe.

He's a very good shot stopper for sure, he made some great saves in the penalty shootout with us in the Ulster Final in 23 but he's way too immobile for the new rules. A weak link. Shot stopping is down the list of what is required for a modern keeper.

With the new rules I'd imagine most goalkeepers will stay in their goals?

[thebigfullforward]

With the new rules there aren't many better keepers than Lynch. He's a great shot stopper, has never been beat in a penalty shootout, is great off the tee. Often derided last year because of what he was asked to do but it wasnt his fault when teammates got turned over out the pitch.

If Murray is fit I can't think of a team he wouldn't start on. Dublin maybe.

He's a very good shot stopper for sure, he made some great saves in the penalty shootout with us in the Ulster Final in 23 but he's way too immobile for the new rules. A weak link. Shot stopping is down the list of what is required for a modern keeper.

With the new rules I'd imagine most goalkeepers will stay in their goals?

Yeah unless you're a Morgan/Rafferty type and are coming up to give others a rest it'd mostly be staying back