NFL Division 1 2025

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Who will win the Div 1 final

Kerry
2 (40%)
Mayo
3 (60%)

Total Members Voted: 5

Voting closed: March 29, 2025, 01:26:17 PM

Captain Scarlet

Rafferty clipped a couple of lovely passes. Just v pleasing on the eye.

But, that's an aside. I like tap and go. 3 up top is good too.

The out ball is there. One way might be to designated your 3 back and forwards who stay up?

Kids grow up with this in Go Games.
them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

Captain Scarlet

Teams seem to be very Jekyll and Hyde so far.
The Dubs were much better in the second half but they still really need Con and Kilkenny to lead.
them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

gallsman

Quote from: Silver hill on March 02, 2025, 12:28:02 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2025, 10:19:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 01, 2025, 09:40:39 PMThe deposed fuball was horizontal- lashings of handpassing
The new fuball is designed to be vertical - fast counterattack, high fielding, 2 pointers.

The new 'fuball' is  pissing around the arc. It's like  inside the arc is a flow of lava , and you'll melt if you go over the  arc line.

Keep the tap and go. Scrap the rest , they're all nonsense

A ban on passing to the keeper anywhere on the pitch would sort the lateral hand passing across the arc

No it won't. Teams are content to sit off the man and defend the arc, only really applying pressure when someone looks like shooting. Attacking team still has loads of room to move the ball over and back unimpeded.

gallsman

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 02, 2025, 06:41:40 AMListen to Rafferty after the game there, naturally he's in favour of letting the keeper come up. In fairness any time he goes up he'll look to take a man on or kick inside as seen by the goal last night.

On a another note bar first half kickouts i thought Comerford did really well, dealt with a couple of balls dropping in very well and got out well to stop a few goal chances. 

Rafferty made a very important point about long kickouts taking a degree of skill out of it for keepers. Any donkey can smack it long and then it's up to lads to compete for it. Not on him if they lose a 50/50.

Armagh18

Quote from: gallsman on March 02, 2025, 09:27:18 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 02, 2025, 06:41:40 AMListen to Rafferty after the game there, naturally he's in favour of letting the keeper come up. In fairness any time he goes up he'll look to take a man on or kick inside as seen by the goal last night.

On a another note bar first half kickouts i thought Comerford did really well, dealt with a couple of balls dropping in very well and got out well to stop a few goal chances. 

Rafferty made a very important point about long kickouts taking a degree of skill out of it for keepers. Any donkey can smack it long and then it's up to lads to compete for it. Not on him if they lose a 50/50.
Yeah very true. He hit a couple of lovely long ones to Murnin and I think Oisin O'Neill in the first half yesterday. But Blaine Hughes is much better at finding shorts under the old rules

tonto1888

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 02, 2025, 07:50:53 AM
Quote from: statto on March 02, 2025, 12:22:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2025, 09:04:52 PMThis is poor shit
How was Antrim v Laois by chance? Was at Armagh Dublin two of top six best teams in county.

I wasn't talking about the gsme, you couldn't help yourself but hey ho..

The constant stopping of the game near the finish when the ref looked unsure on what he was doing with the 3v3 rule

Would that not have been on the linesman?

Tubberman

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 02, 2025, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 02, 2025, 09:27:18 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 02, 2025, 06:41:40 AMListen to Rafferty after the game there, naturally he's in favour of letting the keeper come up. In fairness any time he goes up he'll look to take a man on or kick inside as seen by the goal last night.

On a another note bar first half kickouts i thought Comerford did really well, dealt with a couple of balls dropping in very well and got out well to stop a few goal chances. 

Rafferty made a very important point about long kickouts taking a degree of skill out of it for keepers. Any donkey can smack it long and then it's up to lads to compete for it. Not on him if they lose a 50/50.
Yeah very true. He hit a couple of lovely long ones to Murnin and I think Oisin O'Neill in the first half yesterday. But Blaine Hughes is much better at finding shorts under the old rules

Still not worth reverting the new rule. I think thrnvast majority are in favour of the opportunity for high fielding and contested ball in the middle, rather than an uncontested 20m kickout to the wing and the slow laborious uncontested build up.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Silver hill

Quote from: gallsman on March 02, 2025, 09:25:30 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on March 02, 2025, 12:28:02 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2025, 10:19:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 01, 2025, 09:40:39 PMThe deposed fuball was horizontal- lashings of handpassing
The new fuball is designed to be vertical - fast counterattack, high fielding, 2 pointers.

The new 'fuball' is  pissing around the arc. It's like  inside the arc is a flow of lava , and you'll melt if you go over the  arc line.

Keep the tap and go. Scrap the rest , they're all nonsense

A ban on passing to the keeper anywhere on the pitch would sort the lateral hand passing across the arc

No it won't. Teams are content to sit off the man and defend the arc, only really applying pressure when someone looks like shooting. Attacking team still has loads of room to move the ball over and back unimpeded.

Stopping the 12 v 11 nonsense on the edge of the arc would definitely be helped if the keeper can't participate in the piggy in the middle game. A further tweak, whereby, once you enter the arc you can't come back out again, I think would fully eradicate it.

Estimator

Quote from: gallsman on March 02, 2025, 09:27:18 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 02, 2025, 06:41:40 AMListen to Rafferty after the game there, naturally he's in favour of letting the keeper come up. In fairness any time he goes up he'll look to take a man on or kick inside as seen by the goal last night.

On a another note bar first half kickouts i thought Comerford did really well, dealt with a couple of balls dropping in very well and got out well to stop a few goal chances. 

Rafferty made a very important point about long kickouts taking a degree of skill out of it for keepers. Any donkey can smack it long and then it's up to lads to compete for it. Not on him if they lose a 50/50.

Under last year's rules what was the skill being utilised by a keeper chipping the ball 20yds to an unmarked man? Sometimes the keeper could've had the choice of 3 unmarked men last year.

I'd suggest keepers have to be more skilful now in finding a man in space or on the run.. which is something Rafferty did a few times in yesterday's game.
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gallsman

That's a separate point, and one I didn't attempt to argue.

Rafferty's point was that the idea from the FRC that what people want to see is a hoof up the field with two lads contesting it requires almost nothing in the way of skill from any even moderately competent keeper.

thewobbler

Quote from: gallsman on March 02, 2025, 12:44:37 PMThat's a separate point, and one I didn't attempt to argue.

Rafferty's point was that the idea from the FRC that what people want to see is a hoof up the field with two lads contesting it requires almost nothing in the way of skill from any even moderately competent keeper.

Perhaps, but there is a strategy involved in picking the right match ups and there is skill in changing hang time depending on those matchups. Whereas chipping a ball 13m to an unmarked defender requires nothing at all in the way of skill or thought.

gallsman

Unmarked corner backs receiving a 13 yard kickout are a result of a tactical decision of the team defending the kickout to leave them unmarked and sit back. Not liking this tactic, what the FRC have decided to do (using the results of their bullshit, loaded question-filled survey) is reduce the options available to keepers, rather than propose a change that ensures the defending team can't just sit back and drop off. As usual with committees like this in Irish society, they have attempted to address the consequences, rather than the cause.

From what I've seen this year, intermediate kicks to a player in space or on the run that go over the head of an opponent are happening just as much as they did under the old rules.

Wildweasel74

Thers just too many rule changes been issued at the same time. There's games now on tg4 where frees are given, and u don't know what for, my Irish is poor. But I say that make little difference.

omagh_gael

Draw game in Tuam, we've missed a penalty and playing against a good wind. Seems to be a much better effort today from Tyrone.

5times5times

I think we can decipher..

Donegal aren't as good as the media make out.
Derry aren't as bad as the media make out.
Galway aren't as good as the media make out.
Tyrone aren't as bad as the media make out.