NFL Division 2 2025

Started by Blowitupref, January 15, 2025, 04:09:50 PM

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Who will win the Div 2 final

Monaghan
7 (77.8%)
Roscommon
2 (22.2%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: March 29, 2025, 01:27:35 PM

Dreadnought

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 24, 2025, 11:10:21 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 24, 2025, 08:40:39 PMHilarious 2pter for Westneath on the highlights there on tg4. Westmeath point bounced  over the bar through a stream of players,who all missed it for a 2pter.

So it's a two pointer if it drops short and bounces over without touching another player?

Would have thought that only be 1.
Seems like they need to tweak that rule. Under the current reading, sees it should be 2. But maybe they need to say it goes straight over cleanly, no bounce etc

Blowitupref

Quote from: Dreadnought on March 25, 2025, 10:57:00 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 24, 2025, 11:10:21 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 24, 2025, 08:40:39 PMHilarious 2pter for Westneath on the highlights there on tg4. Westmeath point bounced  over the bar through a stream of players,who all missed it for a 2pter.

So it's a two pointer if it drops short and bounces over without touching another player?

Would have thought that only be 1.
Seems like they need to tweak that rule. Under the current reading, sees it should be 2. But maybe they need to say it goes straight over cleanly, no bounce etc
Took the word "direct" out of it in the latest tweaking of the rules so I think that two pointer was ok.  The last score of the game shouldn't have stood though with the hooter already sounded and the ball not in play.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Main Street

Quote from: rodney trotter on March 25, 2025, 08:16:41 AMI know he has been. Don't be so touchy. After round 5 of the league the rules were tweaked so keepers won't have as much freedom . Monaghan had most of the work done by that stagem
Most of the work was done in round 6 v Meath.

As was evident on the tv coverage and the IT
"There was also a continuing contribution from goalkeeper Rory Beggan, assisted by his team's very disciplined observance of the 4 v 3 rule, who was undaunted by the amended rules which restrict the goalkeeper's role a little. Beggan got forward on plenty of occasions to distract the defence"

Laois Rising

Meath's gameplan was built around having the goalkeeper in the playmaking role. They maximised the extra player to great effect as they moved all their shooters outside the 40 metre line and kept recycling the ball until they created the necessary space for one of them to get a shot away. It was hugely effective. Once the loophole was shut, Meath gameplan not nearly as effective. The option to recycle and move back and forth across the 40 metre arch so freely was taken away from them and they have suffered for it. 

armaghniac

Quote from: Laois Rising on March 25, 2025, 12:46:33 PMMeath's gameplan was built around having the goalkeeper in the playmaking role. They maximised the extra player to great effect as they moved all their shooters outside the 40 metre line and kept recycling the ball until they created the necessary space for one of them to get a shot away. It was hugely effective. Once the loophole was shut, Meath gameplan not nearly as effective. The option to recycle and move back and forth across the 40 metre arch so freely was taken away from them and they have suffered for it. 

Which does raise an issue about changing the rules in the middle of a league.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Minus15

4 v 3 is much better. At least it means that only the high quality keepers that have something to offer will venture up. Beggan, Morgan etc.

Nobody wants to see a goalie up the pitch doing nothing other than helping to recycle the ball.

Beggan was excellent for Monaghan on Sunday at both ends of the pitch.

ardtole

Began really was impressive v Down, his kick outs to team mates on the run is freakishly good.
I've no problem with him coming out to join the attack as he is no longer the extra man as such.
But I hated the rule that was in during the 1st 5 league games, that allowed the keeper to create the extra man.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2025, 12:15:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 25, 2025, 08:16:41 AMI know he has been. Don't be so touchy. After round 5 of the league the rules were tweaked so keepers won't have as much freedom . Monaghan had most of the work done by that stagem
Most of the work was done in round 6 v Meath.

As was evident on the tv coverage and the IT
"There was also a continuing contribution from goalkeeper Rory Beggan, assisted by his team's very disciplined observance of the 4 v 3 rule, who was undaunted by the amended rules which restrict the goalkeeper's role a little. Beggan got forward on plenty of occasions to distract the defence"

Beggan your top scorer in this league campaign I see. Seen a clip yesterday of that dramatic Div 2 final win against Meath 20 years ago when was the last time Monaghan didn't win a league final?  won more recently against Donegal 2014 and 2013 against Meath again.

ClubScene13

Monaghan are some county. 5th lowest population in Ireland and have been a top 10 football team for 15 years, and it looks like continuing. Their forward line will make up for the loss of Conor McManus through the sum of their parts, Bannigan and O'Hanlon are quality, as well as Jack McCarron. Then you have Beggan, Conor McCarthy and Gary Mohan coming from deep. Still a good team that will take beating, fair play to them

Ciarrai_thuaidh

Quote from: ClubScene13 on March 28, 2025, 01:41:38 PMMonaghan are some county. 5th lowest population in Ireland and have been a top 10 football team for 15 years, and it looks like continuing. Their forward line will make up for the loss of Conor McManus through the sum of their parts, Bannigan and O'Hanlon are quality, as well as Jack McCarron. Then you have Beggan, Conor McCarthy and Gary Mohan coming from deep. Still a good team that will take beating, fair play to them

You're absolutely spot on. I've referenced Monaghan many times especially to my many friends in Cork who moan about the predicament of their footballers. Monaghan have half that!

Cork have over 50 clubs who are serious enough about football at least..Mon
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

rodney trotter

Meath and Kildare also should bd doing a lot better with the population. A few wins in the league and meath are blown up. They finished poorly like under Colm O Rourke.

Blowitupref

ROSCOMMON team for tomorrow night final.

C Carroll
C Neary, D Murray, N Higgins
S Cunnane, R Fallon, D Ruane
E Nolan, K Doyle
C Lennon, E Smith, C Hand
D Murtagh, C McKeon, C Murtagh.

Subs: A Brady, J McManus, R Daly, S Killoran, U Harney, T Lambe, B O'Carroll, C Heneghan, S Lambe, C Cox, D Smith


MONAGHAN team :

R Beggan
R Wylie, K Duffy, D Byrne
R McAnespie, R O'Toole, C McCarthy
J Wilson, M McCarville
S O'Hanlon, M Bannigan, C McNulty
D Garland, A Woods, J McCarron.

Subs: D Croarkin, J Irwin, G McPhillips, D Hughes, D Ward, G Mohan, B McBennett, A Carey, B McCaul, S Mooney, K O'Connell
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 28, 2025, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on March 28, 2025, 01:41:38 PMMonaghan are some county. 5th lowest population in Ireland and have been a top 10 football team for 15 years, and it looks like continuing. Their forward line will make up for the loss of Conor McManus through the sum of their parts, Bannigan and O'Hanlon are quality, as well as Jack McCarron. Then you have Beggan, Conor McCarthy and Gary Mohan coming from deep. Still a good team that will take beating, fair play to them

You're absolutely spot on. I've referenced Monaghan many times especially to my many friends in Cork who moan about the predicament of their footballers. Monaghan have half that!

Cork have over 50 clubs who are serious enough about football at least..Mon

Thought i read somewhere that they've more football clubs than rest of Munster combined.

And over 100 football only clubs.

Someone said they've more football than hurling clubs in Cork too... not sure whether this is true.

Hurling be stronger in the more heavily populated areas though I'd imagine so they might have bigger clubs despite having less.

But again open to correction on all this.

Angus MacGyver

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 29, 2025, 10:49:08 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 28, 2025, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on March 28, 2025, 01:41:38 PMMonaghan are some county. 5th lowest population in Ireland and have been a top 10 football team for 15 years, and it looks like continuing. Their forward line will make up for the loss of Conor McManus through the sum of their parts, Bannigan and O'Hanlon are quality, as well as Jack McCarron. Then you have Beggan, Conor McCarthy and Gary Mohan coming from deep. Still a good team that will take beating, fair play to them

You're absolutely spot on. I've referenced Monaghan many times especially to my many friends in Cork who moan about the predicament of their footballers. Monaghan have half that!

Cork have over 50 clubs who are serious enough about football at least..Mon

Thought i read somewhere that they've more football clubs than rest of Munster combined.

And over 100 football only clubs.

Someone said they've more football than hurling clubs in Cork too... not sure whether this is true.

Hurling be stronger in the more heavily populated areas though I'd imagine so they might have bigger clubs despite having less.

But again open to correction on all this.

Monaghan's population is about equal to Carrigaline + Midelton + Cobh + Mallow and Fermoy.
28 clubs in total split 10-10-8 for Senior-Inter-Junior. Half those clubs are amalgamated for underage.
They certainly get the best out of what they have.

Rossfan

Our Co Board area has around 67k.
28 Adult football Clubs and 1 underage one.
12-12-12 plus Junior B. B teams can play Inter or Junior A.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.