Sigerson Cup 2026

Started by Blowitupref, January 05, 2025, 11:43:23 PM

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Quote from: Truth hurts on January 22, 2026, 11:49:20 AMThere will always be a place for the Sigerson but I cannot see county players buying into it for much longer. Playing without the intercounty stars would mean more to the colleges as last evenings match was played like a friendly game.
Always a tough one. If a county player is on a scholarship the college *should* get their priority this time of year in particular.

Some colleges enforce that better than others.

I remember a dual player when I was there. Hurling and football for college, county, county u21, club and club u21. All wanted him to train and play. Absolutely bonkers workload and I am amazed he didn't break down.

tiempo

This is where someone with an ounce of sense in the club should sit the player down map the season by games, cherry picking games that mean the most, then see what you can feasibly do training wise on a priority basis, then tell the mangers thats what they're getting. The examples of dual would be rare these days, but across the board managers looking their pound of flesh hugely off-putting and know plenty would would run players into the ground for their own ends, I remember lads doing Sigerson championship training sessions in the morning and club pre season sessions the same evening, as you say, amazed they all didn't break down, but some did and then everyone lost in the long run

marty34

Quote from: tiempo on January 22, 2026, 12:30:59 PMThis is where someone with an ounce of sense in the club should sit the player down map the season by games, cherry picking games that mean the most, then see what you can feasibly do training wise on a priority basis, then tell the mangers thats what they're getting. The examples of dual would be rare these days, but across the board managers looking their pound of flesh hugely off-putting and know plenty would would run players into the ground for their own ends, I remember lads doing Sigerson championship training sessions in the morning and club pre season sessions the same evening, as you say, amazed they all didn't break down, but some did and then everyone lost in the long run

Managers don't care for players.

They all want their pound of flesh unfortunately.

Blowitupref

#168
Quarter final Draw

Tuesday 27th
DCU v UCC, DCU Sportsgrounds, 7.30pm

Wednesday 28th
University Limerick v Maynooth, UL Grounds, 6.30pm

UCD v University Galway, Belfield, 7.30pm

TUD v Queen's, Grangegorman, 7.30pm
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

thewobbler

Quote from: marty34 on January 22, 2026, 07:25:46 PM
Quote from: tiempo on January 22, 2026, 12:30:59 PMThis is where someone with an ounce of sense in the club should sit the player down map the season by games, cherry picking games that mean the most, then see what you can feasibly do training wise on a priority basis, then tell the mangers thats what they're getting. The examples of dual would be rare these days, but across the board managers looking their pound of flesh hugely off-putting and know plenty would would run players into the ground for their own ends, I remember lads doing Sigerson championship training sessions in the morning and club pre season sessions the same evening, as you say, amazed they all didn't break down, but some did and then everyone lost in the long run

Managers don't care for players.

They all want their pound of flesh unfortunately.

Players don't care for players either is what I find. Most players I've met have a genuine struggle accepting that a player who doesn't train directly with the team and as often as him and hard as him, might be considered above him in the pecking order.

Managers might enforce standards, but players demand them.

JoG2

Quote from: marty34 on January 22, 2026, 07:25:46 PM
Quote from: tiempo on January 22, 2026, 12:30:59 PMThis is where someone with an ounce of sense in the club should sit the player down map the season by games, cherry picking games that mean the most, then see what you can feasibly do training wise on a priority basis, then tell the mangers thats what they're getting. The examples of dual would be rare these days, but across the board managers looking their pound of flesh hugely off-putting and know plenty would would run players into the ground for their own ends, I remember lads doing Sigerson championship training sessions in the morning and club pre season sessions the same evening, as you say, amazed they all didn't break down, but some did and then everyone lost in the long run

Managers don't care for players.

They all want their pound of flesh unfortunately.

Mercenary managers certainly don't.. There's still about 3% inhouse managers, and they will care

clonian

Quote from: thewobbler on January 22, 2026, 07:37:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 22, 2026, 07:25:46 PM
Quote from: tiempo on January 22, 2026, 12:30:59 PMThis is where someone with an ounce of sense in the club should sit the player down map the season by games, cherry picking games that mean the most, then see what you can feasibly do training wise on a priority basis, then tell the mangers thats what they're getting. The examples of dual would be rare these days, but across the board managers looking their pound of flesh hugely off-putting and know plenty would would run players into the ground for their own ends, I remember lads doing Sigerson championship training sessions in the morning and club pre season sessions the same evening, as you say, amazed they all didn't break down, but some did and then everyone lost in the long run

Managers don't care for players.

They all want their pound of flesh unfortunately.

Players don't care for players either is what I find. Most players I've met have a genuine struggle accepting that a player who doesn't train directly with the team and as often as him and hard as him, might be considered above him in the pecking order.

Managers might enforce standards, but players demand them.
I would agree with that - other players would demand you trained with them all the time no matter what else was going on. I would've agreements with managers about training around Uni/school/county teams and there was senior players (who never played outside the club) would pressure you to get to train with them on top of everything else.