Kneecap...

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RedHand88

I don't really like them at all, think they're a bit of dose, but this is very funny.

tonto1888

Quote from: Truthsayer on September 26, 2025, 10:57:22 AMMo Chara is a free man!  8) Charge dropped. What a shower of idiots running the British police & prosecution service.

brilliant

quit yo jibbajabba

Quote from: RedHand88 on September 26, 2025, 11:07:07 AMI don't really like them at all, think they're a bit of dose, but this is very funny.

I agree. I'd also like to add


YEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOO

David McKeown

Quote from: David McKeown on June 20, 2025, 05:06:37 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 20, 2025, 11:56:55 AM
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Quote from: johnnycool on June 19, 2025, 08:31:05 AM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on June 19, 2025, 08:14:37 AMMy point stands:

1. Israel tries to equate any criticism of them as support of Hamas.
2. Kneecap shouting 'Up Hamas' gives Israel an open goal.

It's simple and irrefutable.



Mo Chara left himself open to this by what he shouted and will be used to build the case that he supports a proscribed organisation but make no bones about this the spotlight was shone on them after the Coachella thing in the US.

It looks like the defence are questioning whether the court have jurisdiction on this matter, anyone shed any light on that for us less well informed in the legal gymnastics at play? 

Yes although I think the reporting must be wrong. Either that or I can't read a calendar. The reporting suggesting the issue is one of the case being what's called statute barred.

This offence is what's known as a summary offence meaning it can only be heard in the Magistrates Court. It can not be heard in the Crown Court. Most summary offences (including this one) must be commenced within 6 months. Proceedings are commenced when a complaint is made to a lay magistrate not when a summons is issued. The complained of offence occurred in November. The proceedings don't seem to have been commenced until May. I can't remember the specific dates of either of those but a google suggests the CPS laid the complaint in time (just).
Is the English 6 months thing similar to this bit in Irish law that relates to time between offence and summons?
'Generally speaking, a summons must issue within 6 months of the offence if it is to be dealt with by summary disposal'
https://www.michaelstaines.ie/what-to-do-when-you-receive-a-summons

Yes it steams from pre partition. Been a bit of a divergence over the last century but not much.

In my own defence here the reporting was incorrect at the time. It was a more nuanced point. The CPS lead the charges in time but without the requisite authority to lay. They got that authority and relaid them out of time. Hence my calendar confusion.
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tiempo

... At the start of the hearing, O hAnnaidh stood to confirm his name, date of birth and current address, speaking in Irish with his words translated by an interpreter. The judge then summarised his judgement for the court ...

Frankly that is f**king legendary, think of the historical context where native Irish speakers were sentenced and charged without being able to understand the charges against them or offer a defence because the charges delivered on Irish soil by English judges were spoken in English and the native tongue was not accounted for

The salty **** of a magistrate ... Mr Goldspring said the purpose of the hearing was not to determine O hAnnaidh's innocence or guilt, but about whether the court had jurisdiction to hear the case. Take your f**king beating lad

Armagh18

Quote from: tiempo on September 26, 2025, 11:29:02 AM... At the start of the hearing, O hAnnaidh stood to confirm his name, date of birth and current address, speaking in Irish with his words translated by an interpreter. The judge then summarised his judgement for the court ...

Frankly that is f**king legendary, think of the historical context where native Irish speakers were sentenced and charged without being able to understand the charges against them or offer a defence because the charges delivered on Irish soil by English judges were spoken in English and the native tongue was not accounted for

The salty **** of a magistrate ... Mr Goldspring said the purpose of the hearing was not to determine O hAnnaidh's innocence or guilt, but about whether the court had jurisdiction to hear the case. Take your f**king beating lad
A great f**king day.

Denn Forever

Is there anypictorial evidence of this flag being diisplayed?

Good publicity it will bite if he is denied entry any country.
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

Armagh18

Quote from: Denn Forever on September 26, 2025, 11:49:51 AMIs there anypictorial evidence of this flag being diisplayed?

Good publicity it will bite if he is denied entry any country.
Yeah theres a video of him lifting it after someone threw it on stage. Big deal.

Rossfan

How much did all that cost the Brit taxpayers?
Not to mention all the arrests of "Palestine Action" supporters?
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

David McKeown

Quote from: tiempo on September 26, 2025, 11:29:02 AM... At the start of the hearing, O hAnnaidh stood to confirm his name, date of birth and current address, speaking in Irish with his words translated by an interpreter. The judge then summarised his judgement for the court ...

Frankly that is f**king legendary, think of the historical context where native Irish speakers were sentenced and charged without being able to understand the charges against them or offer a defence because the charges delivered on Irish soil by English judges were spoken in English and the native tongue was not accounted for

The salty **** of a magistrate ... Mr Goldspring said the purpose of the hearing was not to determine O hAnnaidh's innocence or guilt, but about whether the court had jurisdiction to hear the case. Take your f**king beating lad

You are going to have to explain that last line to me
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naka

Quote from: David McKeown on September 26, 2025, 01:07:15 PM
Quote from: tiempo on September 26, 2025, 11:29:02 AM... At the start of the hearing, O hAnnaidh stood to confirm his name, date of birth and current address, speaking in Irish with his words translated by an interpreter. The judge then summarised his judgement for the court ...

Frankly that is f**king legendary, think of the historical context where native Irish speakers were sentenced and charged without being able to understand the charges against them or offer a defence because the charges delivered on Irish soil by English judges were spoken in English and the native tongue was not accounted for

The salty **** of a magistrate ... Mr Goldspring said the purpose of the hearing was not to determine O hAnnaidh's innocence or guilt, but about whether the court had jurisdiction to hear the case. Take your f**king beating lad

You are going to have to explain that last line to me
Thinking that myself David, thought the magistrate called it proper.
He was there to review the jurisdiction of the court and made his call.

johnnycool

So if that court hasn't jurisdiction, then can the Met go to another court which may have jurisdiction or is that a stupid question from the uninformed?

gallsman

Quote from: tiempo on September 26, 2025, 11:29:02 AMThe salty **** of a magistrate ... Mr Goldspring said the purpose of the hearing was not to determine O hAnnaidh's innocence or guilt, but about whether the court had jurisdiction to hear the case. Take your f**king beating lad

Are you thick? Or just a child?

tiempo


gallsman

Can't even get that right. I'll go with "thick" but happy to be proved wrong.