All Ireland Club Championships 2024

Started by SouthOfThe Bann, July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AM

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Gael85

Quote from: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: Sheedy on October 20, 2024, 04:19:07 PMBrilliant win for Cuala, nothing wrong with a game like that especially the last quater

The BIG money behind Cuala paying dividends. They should survive the Leinster first round with Con out.

Naas in Newbridge without Con. Can't see Cuala making much of impact in Leinster anyway as lack strength in dept. Should be between Naas and Portarlington for Leinster this year.

Tubberman

Quote from: The Trap on October 20, 2024, 09:48:41 PMSo you are quoting a rugby match between 2 of the top 4 side in ireland and the all Ireland series. OK then.

How many people go to any other rugby, soccer, basketball etc matches? Are they being wildly entertained.

And in Ulster we are delighted to be part of the GAA.

What is your point? That as long as we're getting more than League of Ireland, everything is fine?
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DuffleKing

Quote from: Gael85 on October 20, 2024, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: Sheedy on October 20, 2024, 04:19:07 PMBrilliant win for Cuala, nothing wrong with a game like that especially the last quater

The BIG money behind Cuala paying dividends. They should survive the Leinster first round with Con out.

Naas in Newbridge without Con. Can't see Cuala making much of impact in Leinster anyway as lack strength in dept. Should be between Naas and Portarlington for Leinster this year.

Con will be suspended for the first round of the Dublin championship in 2025 surely?

Gael85

Quote from: DuffleKing on October 20, 2024, 10:28:02 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on October 20, 2024, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: Sheedy on October 20, 2024, 04:19:07 PMBrilliant win for Cuala, nothing wrong with a game like that especially the last quater

The BIG money behind Cuala paying dividends. They should survive the Leinster first round with Con out.

Naas in Newbridge without Con. Can't see Cuala making much of impact in Leinster anyway as lack strength in dept. Should be between Naas and Portarlington for Leinster this year.

Con will be suspended for the first round of the Dublin championship in 2025 surely?

No I believe rules have changed, he will miss Leinster game.

The Trap

There are thousands of games every year.

I was once told that you will play in hundreds of games in your life. You will lose some by a lot and win some by a lot and some will be close. Those are the ones that matter!

This year I have been at lots of games. Some have been very good and some have been very poor.

If the new rules come in I will go to lots of games and some will be very good and some will be very poor.

That's just sport I guess. I don't know why people think the GAA is very different.


Saffron_sam20

I dont fully understand the 'appeal to neutrals' why? are people who suddenly think our high scoring game with the new rules is class based in England going to start flooding over to fill Pairc Ui Chaoimh for a munster final? or are we gonna do NFL and try fill Spurs ground once a year? cant see it. We have an association that if you go to any club on a sat or sunday morning it is buzzing with kids playing, they are the future. you go to club games and there are healthy crowds for the level, people who have an attachment, live and breathe for their club.

id argue that the attendance drop is more to do with the fact of more games with less meaning and higher pricing. its not down to the product, when there are so many games with little riding on them supporters will always pick and choose.

if the GAA were interested in more people at games rather than revenue they would drop the prices and do away with meaningless games.

thewobbler

Don't see the need to appeal to neutrals myself.

It bothers me none if there's a big crowd or a small crowd at a game.

But as mentioned before, what does bother me is that I've paid into 2 games in 5 years not involving Ballyholland. For the simple reason that I refuse to travel and then pay money to be bored out of my brains.

I am of course a sample of one here. Except I'm not.

JoG2

Quote from: thewobbler on October 21, 2024, 09:07:30 AMDon't see the need to appeal to neutrals myself.

It bothers me none if there's a big crowd or a small crowd at a game.

But as mentioned before, what does bother me is that I've paid into 2 games in 5 years not involving Ballyholland. For the simple reason that I refuse to travel and then pay money to be bored out of my brains.

I am of course a sample of one here. Except I'm not.

Who will have sons, daughter's,  neices and nephews..you wouldn't be in your club committee by any chance?

Silver hill

For any game to survive it needs to be attractive to the neutral as a spectacle. Gaelic football has trundled along for the past 10 years as people are invested due to family, parish and county loyalty. That has been waning year on year and I think it's right that the rules are adapted to try to make it more entertaining. I get it they coaches are in the business of winning and will interpret the rules as they see fit to gain maximum benefit for their team, but if the product on show is generally dross, people will vote with their feet or simple switch over to something else.
I'm old enough to remember the pass back to the keeper in soccer and how it was exploited. look how that simple rule change revolutionised that game. Same with shot clock in basketball. Not all of the proposed changes will work, but that is the purpose of sandbox games. To test. And I think the committee have an opportunity next November to tweak anything that they see fit after a full national league and championship campaign. I watch a lot of football because I grew up with it and played the game. It's in my DNA but it definitely needs the current review in my opinion.

thewobbler

Quote from: JoG2 on October 21, 2024, 09:53:49 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 21, 2024, 09:07:30 AMDon't see the need to appeal to neutrals myself.

It bothers me none if there's a big crowd or a small crowd at a game.

But as mentioned before, what does bother me is that I've paid into 2 games in 5 years not involving Ballyholland. For the simple reason that I refuse to travel and then pay money to be bored out of my brains.

I am of course a sample of one here. Except I'm not.

Who will have sons, daughter's,  neices and nephews..you wouldn't be in your club committee by any chance?

I think you're picking me up a little wrongly here.

My underlying point is that if the likes of me - who has been wrapped up in the sport for 40 years - would no longer cross the road to watch an adult football match, then why are we even discussing attracting neutrals?

Not sure where you're going with your committee comment. Though I could harbour a guess.

andoireabu

Quote from: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 08:25:29 PM
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Quote from: Blowitupref on October 20, 2024, 04:46:06 PMGreat win for Cuala against the All-Ireland champions of a few years ago. Before today Cuala only played in one Dublin final way back in 1988.

It goes to show you if you are whiling to source big sponsors and invest it in developing players - it will reap dividends.

They've a massive pick do they not? Dun Laoghaire, Dalkey and Killiney?

They have massive money behind them. As do most clubs in Dublin. Which makes it a level playing field.

You've mentioned money a few times now about Cuala, what sort of money are you talking?
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general_lee

Would Cuala have more $$$ than Crokes?

LC

Would it be fair to say Cuala are the Dublin version of St. Brigid's with Kilmacud being the Carryduff?

Onthe40

Qualify what massive money means at club level
Players getting the best of physio, gear, feeding, odd weekend away.. a well paid mgr...

would most clubs at a certain level not have that?

Armagh18

Quote from: Onthe40 on October 23, 2024, 02:05:58 PMQualify what massive money means at club level
Players getting the best of physio, gear, feeding, odd weekend away.. a well paid mgr...

would most clubs at a certain level not have that?
Well certain a Dublin club was able to pay a certain high profile county man to play for them (allegedly) wouldn't say the bulk of senior clubs could do that.