Armagh v Kerry

[downtothecore]

I see Kieran Hughes from Monaghan had said the Armagh players will take a 2 point loss. Sums up monaghans attitude really

It's as bad a bit of analysis as I've ever heard. No wonder Monaghan didn't win any AI semi finals if that is in Kieran Hughes' thinking.

I'm sure he doesn't mean 'take' as in accept it/ be satisfied with it... probably means will take as be on the receiving end if it... ?

If they were a young team with 7 or 8 U21s from last couple of years, sure there is an argument there. But for this particular group, I think this is their defining moment. Can't see too many more bites at the cherry.

I heading to the game and am expecting Armagh to have right go at winning the match. I agree with above and I won't surprised if they do it.

[Armagh18]

I see Kieran Hughes from Monaghan had said the Armagh players will take a 2 point loss. Sums up monaghans attitude really

It's as bad a bit of analysis as I've ever heard. No wonder Monaghan didn't win any AI semi finals if that is in Kieran Hughes' thinking.

I'm sure he doesn't mean 'take' as in accept it/ be satisfied with it... probably means will take as be on the receiving end if it... ?

If they were a young team with 7 or 8 U21s from last couple of years, sure there is an argument there. But for this particular group, I think this is their defining moment. Can't see too many more bites at the cherry.

I actually think this team is only getting going. Bar Forker and Gurgan none of our main men look like slowing up. Yes Soupy and Murnin are that bit older but theres plenty left in both, imo if they want to stick at it. Outside of that theres at least a few years left in everyone and if we can get 2 or 3 like McGrane, McMullen and Conaty every year we'll be ok.

2 O'Neills only hitting their peak years now as well as Duffy, McQuillan, JOB etc.

[Look-Up!]

I see Kieran Hughes from Monaghan had said the Armagh players will take a 2 point loss. Sums up monaghans attitude really

It's as bad a bit of analysis as I've ever heard. No wonder Monaghan didn't win any AI semi finals if that is in Kieran Hughes' thinking.

I'm sure he doesn't mean 'take' as in accept it/ be satisfied with it... probably means will take as be on the receiving end if it... ?

If they were a young team with 7 or 8 U21s from last couple of years, sure there is an argument there. But for this particular group, I think this is their defining moment. Can't see too many more bites at the cherry.

I actually think this team is only getting going. Bar Forker and Gurgan none of our main men look like slowing up. Yes Soupy and Murnin are that bit older but theres plenty left in both, imo if they want to stick at it. Outside of that theres at least a few years left in everyone and if we can get 2 or 3 like McGrane, McMullen and Conaty every year we'll be ok.

2 O'Neills only hitting their peak years now as well as Duffy, McQuillan, JOB etc.

Fair enough, I'm not clued up on Armagh football but from an outside perspective, they have been building for a long time, have milage clocked up and have had plenty of heartache and hard luck near misses. If that trend isn't bucked this year, it will be harder to go back to the well. That's just my take.

[Armagh18]

I see Kieran Hughes from Monaghan had said the Armagh players will take a 2 point loss. Sums up monaghans attitude really

It's as bad a bit of analysis as I've ever heard. No wonder Monaghan didn't win any AI semi finals if that is in Kieran Hughes' thinking.

I'm sure he doesn't mean 'take' as in accept it/ be satisfied with it... probably means will take as be on the receiving end if it... ?

If they were a young team with 7 or 8 U21s from last couple of years, sure there is an argument there. But for this particular group, I think this is their defining moment. Can't see too many more bites at the cherry.

I actually think this team is only getting going. Bar Forker and Gurgan none of our main men look like slowing up. Yes Soupy and Murnin are that bit older but theres plenty left in both, imo if they want to stick at it. Outside of that theres at least a few years left in everyone and if we can get 2 or 3 like McGrane, McMullen and Conaty every year we'll be ok.

2 O'Neills only hitting their peak years now as well as Duffy, McQuillan, JOB etc.

Fair enough, I'm not clued up on Armagh football but from an outside perspective, they have been building for a long time, have milage clocked up and have had plenty of heartache and hard luck near misses. If that trend isn't bucked this year, it will be harder to go back to the well. That's just my take.

Yeah fair enough. I'm seriously impressed with how they've regrouped after 4 heartbreaking penalty defeats in such big games.

 Sitting nicely in the long grass though with very few outside the county giving us a prayer.

[illdecide]

My only concern is Armagh's experienced players now are starting to show their age and are not finishing games or their usual 7 or 8/10 performances are now a 6/10. So far KMcG has managed this well and are replaced with younger men who do the job, they still have a job to do and I hope they get their just rewards for their effort and hard yards they've put in over the last decade.
My heart is telling me we can win this by 2pts but my head is telling me to wise up and calm down. go and enjoy the day and see what it brings. Whatever happens I hope the best team on the day wins and we're not shafted by a referee decision or that we didn't go for it when we had the chance. I would love Kerry to get someone black carded with 10 mins to go and KMcG to push up and really go for it instead of keeping an extra man back in defence. We all know that won't happen...lol

[balladmaker]

Armagh have a golden chance to go for broke and make it to an All Ireland Final!  For a county that is lucky to make it to an All Ireland Final once every quarter of a century or so, I just hope they give Kerry a good rattle tomorrow, play with serious intensity and energy, and leave all on the pitch.  If they come up short, I'll congratulate Kerry and come back up the road with the feeling the best team won, and we'll hopefully re-group and come back again.  If they start defending a 1 point lead with 10 or 15 mins to go, and lose by a point or two, that would be a sickener.  If they go into their shell and play within themselves on what is their biggest day to date, that would be inexcusable.  So here's to more like Celtic Park v Derry. KMcG has assembled Armagh's strongest team since the All Ireland winning team, he arguably  has the strongest panel in the country at his disposal, Saturday is a defining moment for the McGeeney era.  Come on Armagh, give it a rattle!

[Truthsayer]

I see Kieran Hughes from Monaghan had said the Armagh players will take a 2 point loss. Sums up monaghans attitude really

It's as bad a bit of analysis as I've ever heard. No wonder Monaghan didn't win any AI semi finals if that is in Kieran Hughes' thinking.

I'm sure he doesn't mean 'take' as in accept it/ be satisfied with it... probably means will take as be on the receiving end if it... ?

His exact words 'if you told an Armagh player they'd lose by 2 points at the weekend they'll take that with both hands I can assure you of that'. Even the presenter was shocked and Hughes doubled down on it. Just a very strange bit of analysis.

Ok. Thats terrible.

[naka]

We are winning this
Armagh by 3

[square_ball]

I see Kieran Hughes from Monaghan had said the Armagh players will take a 2 point loss. Sums up monaghans attitude really

It's as bad a bit of analysis as I've ever heard. No wonder Monaghan didn't win any AI semi finals if that is in Kieran Hughes' thinking.

I'm sure he doesn't mean 'take' as in accept it/ be satisfied with it... probably means will take as be on the receiving end if it... ?

His exact words 'if you told an Armagh player they'd lose by 2 points at the weekend they'll take that with both hands I can assure you of that'. Even the presenter was shocked and Hughes doubled down on it. Just a very strange bit of analysis.

Ok. Thats terrible.

Yeah as I say it's strange.

[Wildweasel74]

Kerry by a fair bit.

[statto]

My only concern is Armagh's experienced players now are starting to show their age and are not finishing games or their usual 7 or 8/10 performances are now a 6/10. So far KMcG has managed this well and are replaced with younger men who do the job, they still have a job to do and I hope they get their just rewards for their effort and hard yards they've put in over the last decade.
My heart is telling me we can win this by 2pts but my head is telling me to wise up and calm down. go and enjoy the day and see what it brings. Whatever happens I hope the best team on the day wins and we're not shafted by a referee decision or that we didn't go for it when we had the chance. I would love Kerry to get someone black carded with 10 mins to go and KMcG to push up and really go for it instead of keeping an extra man back in defence. We all know that won't happen...lol

I definitely think Aidan Forker was slowed up this season a yard, has been a wonderful servant but not sure there's a full 70 in him tomorrow.He certainly won't be found wanting in guts, determination and effort but maybe isn't getting the jobs he was a year or two ago.

[statto]

Armagh have a golden chance to go for broke and make it to an All Ireland Final!  For a county that is lucky to make it to an All Ireland Final once every quarter of a century or so, I just hope they give Kerry a good rattle tomorrow, play with serious intensity and energy, and leave all on the pitch.  If they come up short, I'll congratulate Kerry and come back up the road with the feeling the best team won, and we'll hopefully re-group and come back again.  If they start defending a 1 point lead with 10 or 15 mins to go, and lose by a point or two, that would be a sickener.  If they go into their shell and play within themselves on what is their biggest day to date, that would be inexcusable.  So here's to more like Celtic Park v Derry. KMcG has assembled Armagh's strongest team since the All Ireland winning team, he arguably  has the strongest panel in the country at his disposal, Saturday is a defining moment for the McGeeney era.  Come on Armagh, give it a rattle!

Listening to niblock talking other week he said general consensus seemed to be around Derry that the defeat this year hurt more than last year even though they probably should have won game last year as they played within themselves.Which I can understand as was the general feeling towards the Armagh team after the Monaghan and derry losses particular last year.Armagh have a very strong platform around the middle with Crealey, Grimley, O'Neill and Murnin and should be trying to send Kerry out long when can and get the crowd involved as often as they can.

[tonto1888]

I see Kieran Hughes from Monaghan had said the Armagh players will take a 2 point loss. Sums up monaghans attitude really

It's as bad a bit of analysis as I've ever heard. No wonder Monaghan didn't win any AI semi finals if that is in Kieran Hughes' thinking.

I'm sure he doesn't mean 'take' as in accept it/ be satisfied with it... probably means will take as be on the receiving end if it... ?

If they were a young team with 7 or 8 U21s from last couple of years, sure there is an argument there. But for this particular group, I think this is their defining moment. Can't see too many more bites at the cherry.

I actually think this team is only getting going. Bar Forker and Gurgan none of our main men look like slowing up. Yes Soupy and Murnin are that bit older but theres plenty left in both, imo if they want to stick at it. Outside of that theres at least a few years left in everyone and if we can get 2 or 3 like McGrane, McMullen and Conaty every year we'll be ok.

2 O'Neills only hitting their peak years now as well as Duffy, McQuillan, JOB etc.

Murnin and Grugan are the same age. Soupy and forker both younger

[Armagh18]

I see Kieran Hughes from Monaghan had said the Armagh players will take a 2 point loss. Sums up monaghans attitude really

It's as bad a bit of analysis as I've ever heard. No wonder Monaghan didn't win any AI semi finals if that is in Kieran Hughes' thinking.

I'm sure he doesn't mean 'take' as in accept it/ be satisfied with it... probably means will take as be on the receiving end if it... ?

If they were a young team with 7 or 8 U21s from last couple of years, sure there is an argument there. But for this particular group, I think this is their defining moment. Can't see too many more bites at the cherry.

I actually think this team is only getting going. Bar Forker and Gurgan none of our main men look like slowing up. Yes Soupy and Murnin are that bit older but theres plenty left in both, imo if they want to stick at it. Outside of that theres at least a few years left in everyone and if we can get 2 or 3 like McGrane, McMullen and Conaty every year we'll be ok.

2 O'Neills only hitting their peak years now as well as Duffy, McQuillan, JOB etc.

Murnin and Grugan are the same age. Soupy and forker both younger

Performance wise I think Forker and Grugan are showing their age more than the others. Murnin missed an awful lot of football through injury a few years ago as well.

[statto]

I see Kieran Hughes from Monaghan had said the Armagh players will take a 2 point loss. Sums up monaghans attitude really

It's as bad a bit of analysis as I've ever heard. No wonder Monaghan didn't win any AI semi finals if that is in Kieran Hughes' thinking.

I'm sure he doesn't mean 'take' as in accept it/ be satisfied with it... probably means will take as be on the receiving end if it... ?

If they were a young team with 7 or 8 U21s from last couple of years, sure there is an argument there. But for this particular group, I think this is their defining moment. Can't see too many more bites at the cherry.

I actually think this team is only getting going. Bar Forker and Gurgan none of our main men look like slowing up. Yes Soupy and Murnin are that bit older but theres plenty left in both, imo if they want to stick at it. Outside of that theres at least a few years left in everyone and if we can get 2 or 3 like McGrane, McMullen and Conaty every year we'll be ok.

2 O'Neills only hitting their peak years now as well as Duffy, McQuillan, JOB etc.

Murnin and Grugan are the same age. Soupy and forker both younger

Soupy is same age as Murnin and Grugan.