GAA moneybags and Sean Cavanagh

Started by seafoid, May 13, 2024, 10:12:13 PM

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imtommygunn

It is surely a stepping stone. It's not really dear at all and you would expect it to get dearer over time. I think they are dipping their toes in the water to see how it takes off.


armaghniac

Quote from: lfdown2 on May 14, 2024, 10:22:15 AMBut surely its all relative, while (as far as I can see) at the end of 2023 there was 'cash' of circa €45,000,000 there are proposal capital projects of circa €500,000,000 in the coming years (if Burns is to be believed), as such having cash in the bank is irrelevant.

Sean Cavanagh is an embarrassment. Everyone knows that the GAA is going to have to uprate its contribution to Casement to at least reflect inflation and that would in itself use up a large part of that sum. And even if the whole Euros thing collapses they are still going to have to spend a significant amount on some sort of stadium there and perhaps a refurbishment of Clones if the big scheme in Belfast is reduced. No doubt HQ has to make contributions to the likes of the projects in Louth, Meath and Kildare, that would account for most of the remainder. People are always calling for expenditure on this and that.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Rossfan

A bit like life
We want to pay less tax but want more public spending......
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

clarshack

What is the big deal about what Cavanagh has said anyway?. The GAA has cash in the bank and is asset rich therefore some people might think it is a wealthy organisation. Bit of an over reaction from Burns IMO.

johnnycool

Quote from: clarshack on May 14, 2024, 11:33:43 AMWhat is the big deal about what Cavanagh has said anyway?. The GAA has cash in the bank and is asset rich therefore some people might think it is a wealthy organisation. Bit of an over reaction from Burns IMO.

Burns was bang on and put Cavanagh back in his wee box.

Having cash reserves is good management as you never know what your revenue streams will generate year on year, plus the GAA will be contributing to all those centres of excellence springing up in every county and investing in other areas too.
If the GAA were borrowing money year on year to stay afloat it would be deemed poor management and rightly so.

As for the brown envelopes comment, get involved in your own club and put an end to it from within and stop gurning about it, it's nothing to do with Burns or Croke Park.

armaghniac

Quote from: clarshack on May 14, 2024, 11:33:43 AMWhat is the big deal about what Cavanagh has said anyway?. The GAA has cash in the bank and is asset rich therefore some people might think it is a wealthy organisation. Bit of an over reaction from Burns IMO.

It has cash in the bank and a thousand uses for that cash, free streaming would be somewhere in the 900s on that list. 
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

gallsman

The big deal is that he was wrong, and Burns corrected him. Emphatically.

Seems a few moany Tyronies are a bit touchy about Saint Sean being called out on his nonsense.

NAG1

Quote from: gallsman on May 14, 2024, 12:17:06 PMThe big deal is that he was wrong, and Burns corrected him. Emphatically.

Seems a few moany Tyronies are a bit touchy about Saint Sean being called out on his nonsense.

He was caught out spouting BS and has now doubled down on it.
Burns perfectly right to slap him down.

Really strange misstep for someone working in the financial industry.

tyrone08

Quote from: johnnycool on May 14, 2024, 11:44:04 AM
Quote from: clarshack on May 14, 2024, 11:33:43 AMWhat is the big deal about what Cavanagh has said anyway?. The GAA has cash in the bank and is asset rich therefore some people might think it is a wealthy organisation. Bit of an over reaction from Burns IMO.

Burns was bang on and put Cavanagh back in his wee box.

Having cash reserves is good management as you never know what your revenue streams will generate year on year, plus the GAA will be contributing to all those centres of excellence springing up in every county and investing in other areas too.
If the GAA were borrowing money year on year to stay afloat it would be deemed poor management and rightly so.

As for the brown envelopes comment, get involved in your own club and put an end to it from within and stop gurning about it, it's nothing to do with Burns or Croke Park.


You may tell Burns its nothing to do with him then, he has made it one of his objectives to cut down on under table payments.

What Sean said was that gaa are a rich organization,  they have millions in reserves and assests worth hundreds of millions. This is all factual correct.

Beside people not liking Sean what did he say that was incorrect ?

Burns could have addressed the issue in a number of better ways but he didnt.

johnnycool

Quote from: NAG1 on May 14, 2024, 12:20:03 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 14, 2024, 12:17:06 PMThe big deal is that he was wrong, and Burns corrected him. Emphatically.

Seems a few moany Tyronies are a bit touchy about Saint Sean being called out on his nonsense.

He was caught out spouting BS and has now doubled down on it.
Burns perfectly right to slap him down.

Really strange misstep for someone working in the financial industry.

He probably didn't expect to get pulled on it so quickly and publically by Burns who seems to be setting his stall out early doors in the press.

He gave William Crawley his fill of it on Radio Ulster Talkback a few weeks back as well.


square_ball

Cavanagh said "The GAA are one of the richest organisations in the world" which is what Burns was responding to. Cavanagh hadn't backtracked at that point.

Under the table payments is a totally different issue to whether ot not the GAA are rich.

Burns was 100% right to go on the radio yesterday. Its great to have a president who will defend the GAA. Can you imagine that disaster Larry McCarthy doing the same thing?

And I would imagine most 'Tyronies' would agree or certainly the ones I talk to - Cavanagh was one of our best ever players but as a pundit he is absolutely shocking whether he is talkign about on or off the field issues.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: johnnycool on May 14, 2024, 12:26:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 14, 2024, 12:20:03 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 14, 2024, 12:17:06 PMThe big deal is that he was wrong, and Burns corrected him. Emphatically.

Seems a few moany Tyronies are a bit touchy about Saint Sean being called out on his nonsense.

He was caught out spouting BS and has now doubled down on it.
Burns perfectly right to slap him down.

Really strange misstep for someone working in the financial industry.

He probably didn't expect to get pulled on it so quickly and publically by Burns who seems to be setting his stall out early doors in the press.

He gave William Crawley his fill of it on Radio Ulster Talkback a few weeks back as well.



With regards to Casement if that's the interview he gave, I did hear him on radio Ulster but not sure if it was him or Joel .. Look he can't believe himself that the amount that Croke is willing to give is the same amount that was agreed at the start (or thereabouts) considering how its been fucked up by parts of the association

He's good at doubling down himself in that regard, rightly or wrong
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Rufus T Firefly

Quote from: clarshack on May 14, 2024, 11:33:43 AMWhat is the big deal about what Cavanagh has said anyway?. The GAA has cash in the bank and is asset rich therefore some people might think it is a wealthy organisation. Bit of an over reaction from Burns IMO.

I think the issue was that the subject matter has the potential to be quite emotive - the conflict between needing to raise revenue and at the same time trying to ensure that the product is available to as large an audience as possible.

I thought Cavanagh's approach played on that emotion - the inference of the cold, cash hungry GAA denying many the right to see our games, in their pursuit of money.

It could not go unchallenged and the response was an extremely powerful put down.

gallsman

Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on May 14, 2024, 12:34:15 PMI think the issue was that the subject matter has the potential to be quite emotive - the conflict between needing to raise revenue and at the same time trying to ensure that the product is available to as large an audience as possible.

I thought Cavanagh's approach played on that emotion - the inference of the cold, cash hungry GAA denying many the right to see our games, in their pursuit of money.

It could not go unchallenged and the response was an extremely powerful put down.

This is absolutely the crux of it and what he was implying.

seafoid

The condensed season with all the extra matches in a shorter period of time is the real problem. It's hard to keep up with what is happening and not everything can be televised. GAA people have developed expectations about what will be available. And the football product isn't what it used to be either.