Sam Maguire 2024 Group 1 - Galway, Armagh, Derry, Westmeath

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NotedObserver

Derry getting injuries that they've avoided for a couple of years. They need some back to beat Armagh

galwayman

Comers ankle is the big worry going forward.
He had a bad ankle injury a few years back that took him a long time to recover from.
It was a dirty dirty act.
Against 14 men or not - it was a decent performer from our lads.

Truthsayer

Harte must have been a different match... those comments : 0

Wildweasel74

Rumour was there a man hasn't trained in 2 weeks and another sick all week playing, if thats the case. Derry not strong enough on the bench

yellowcard

Mickey now accusing Comer of theatrics, Derry aren't helping themselves today he would have been just better saying he didn't see it.

From the Bunker

#185
That is virtually the end of Derry's season. Finishing 2nd or 3rd is a disaster in the group stage. The system is set up to punish teams finishing in this position by not giving them enough time to recover to play the teams who finish top of the groups.

NotedObserver

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 18, 2024, 07:31:01 PMRumour was there a man hasn't trained in 2 weeks and another sick all week playing, if thats the case. Derry not strong enough on the bench

Who's that? Heard mccloskey and Rodger's were doubts

tbrick18

Very poor from Derry, sending off aside. So flat.
First half us where the game was lost, too many dropped short.

Too many of derrys star players were nowhere to be seen, glass didn't seem interested.

We were chasing the game, lachlan Murray just scored 3 I think, made a score saving tackle and Harte takes him off. Can't see the logic in that.

Galway were good. Should rightly leapfrog derry in the AI rankings and must be in that top 3 tier now.

Didn't listen to the commentary after the game but there can be no defending mckinless.
However,  I did think in general galway got their frees easier than us.

galwayman

Quote from: tbrick18 on May 18, 2024, 07:41:04 PMVery poor from Derry, sending off aside. So flat.
First half us where the game was lost, too many dropped short.

Too many of derrys star players were nowhere to be seen, glass didn't seem interested.

We were chasing the game, lachlan Murray just scored 3 I think, made a score saving tackle and Harte takes him off. Can't see the logic in that.

Galway were good. Should rightly leapfrog derry in the AI rankings and must be in that top 3 tier now.

Didn't listen to the commentary after the game but there can be no defending mckinless.
However,  I did think in general galway got their frees easier than us.
I'm trying to take my Galway hat off here (not easy of course) but I honestly didn't feel that we were getting frees easier.
In terms of scores from frees I'm not sure how many we ended up with but when we had 1-12 on the board only two of those were frees.
I can think of two off the top of my head tap over frees Derry got that were never frees (to me anyway).
McGuigan wins a high ball in first half & doesn't call a mark. He gets shepherded and throws himself down and gets a free.
One in second half (I think number 10) who runs into 2-3 Galway defenders and gets a very soft free.
Anyhow I'm only picking them as examples. The red card changed the game.
Who knows what would have happened if it didn't happen. It was going to be tight regardless

JoG2

Quote from: Brendan on May 18, 2024, 06:24:40 PM
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Quote from: Truthsayer on May 18, 2024, 06:13:11 PMWhen you think of all the hype about Harte and Derry after their league win.. very poor up front and predictable packed defence.

Was telling any of my county men this who were getting ahead of themselves during the league, at the end of the day needed Penalties to beat Armagh, favourable quarter final draws against Cork and Clare only reason they made the last 2 semi finals and in the league this year only impressive win was against Kerry who were minus the Clifford's. Hartes decision making needs questioned

Not Mickey Harte who is stamping on ankles .....

Hartes training regime that has seen our whole half back line injured when they hadn't a game for a month

Explain how it's Harte's training? CD got injured in Salthill in the league and hasn't recovered. Paudi's was very innocuous. Our half back line training differently to say the half forward line?

Need McEvoy and CD back ASAP. Glass wasn't at himself either by the looks of it. 5 in it at the end, with men out, and down to 14, after 20mins,it was huge mission to get out of Pearce with anything. 6 point swing with Shane's effort straight at the keeper. First half shooting was v disappointing.

Be very interesting to see how the squad looks in 2 weeks time

JoG2

Quote from: tbrick18 on May 18, 2024, 07:41:04 PMVery poor from Derry, sending off aside. So flat.
First half us where the game was lost, too many dropped short.

Too many of derrys star players were nowhere to be seen, glass didn't seem interested.

We were chasing the game, lachlan Murray just scored 3 I think, made a score saving tackle and Harte takes him off. Can't see the logic in that.

Galway were good. Should rightly leapfrog derry in the AI rankings and must be in that top 3 tier now.

Didn't listen to the commentary after the game but there can be no defending mckinless.
However,  I did think in general galway got their frees easier than us.

He was out on his feet for about 5 mins before going off.. Put in a huge shift, especially in the first half tbrick

McKindless, you think of all the effort that goes in from so many people, and then someone does something as daft as that to derail todays challenge...

NotedObserver

Lachlan Murray one of a few at the pitch of it. McGuigan diving is ridiculous and doesn't need to do it. Galway not at their best and will improve once returning players get game time

fearbrags

Quote from: From the Bunker on May 18, 2024, 07:34:32 PMThat is virtually the end of Derry's season. Finishing 2nd or 3rd is a disaster in the group stage. The system is set up to punish teams finishing in this position by not giving them enough time to recover to play the teams who finish top of the groups.
I dont see that yet ,
Kerry lost their first game last year and yet got back on track , Good thing about being in a hard group is that every game will be  competitive. Armagh v Galway ,Derry V Armagh both huge games  ,  And going on last year Westmeath could also cause an upset ,

sam03/05

Thought Hartes comments after the game were a disgrace. Said he didn't see mckinless incident , but then proceeded to accuse Comer of making a meal of it and theatrics.
It was as  blatant a red card as seen at a game & it more or less ended Comers involvement in the game. McKinless deserves a lengthy ban for it

God14

Quote from: sam03/05 on May 18, 2024, 08:03:08 PMThought Hartes comments after the game were a disgrace. Said he didn't see mckinless incident , but then proceeded to accuse Comer of making a meal of it and theatrics.
It was as  blatant a red card as seen at a game & it more or less ended Comers involvement in the game. McKinless deserves a lengthy ban for it

Agree 100per cent, can't believe he wasn't pulled on it
Paul Devlin was handed an iPad last week after McHughs red card
Harte lost it completely though, roaring and swearing on the sideline was never a trait of his til now.