Sam Maguire 2024 Group 1 - Galway, Armagh, Derry, Westmeath

[Manning18]

Conor Lane, didn't give a stonewall penalty on O'Boyle, which would drew the game if scored. From the same play Galway broke up the field to score a goal from Cummins.

I was down in front of that getting drenched Wasn't a pen. I do remember Lane giving Galway 2 or 3 soft frees alright that Gary Sice kicked over. Derry were hard done by but considering Galway nearly won by double scores in the end it's a stretch to say he was the difference. Neither team were going anywhere fast that year

Brendan Cawley is in the middle Sunday, the worst referee in the rotation by a country mile. Hopefully he can have as little impact on proceedings as possible but I won't hold my breath

How are Derry shaping up injury wise aside from McGrogans unfortunate long term issue?

[Estimator]

Cawley was the man in the middle for the AI semi between Derry and Galway in 2022. Thought he was v harsh on Derry in the first half that day. Just hope he is anonymous on Saturday evening, but I'd doubt it.

[Keyser soze]

Don't have any faith in Derry getting a result against Galway, don't think we have ever beat them in Senior championship.

Last time we played them in Q's, Conor Lane gave us as sore a riding as I've ever seen from a referee.

PS sorry to intrude on an Armagh thread lol

This version of Derry has played Galway a few times, lost 2 and won 1, league / championship. So history, bogey team etc wouldn't come into my thinking. Home advantage and their inside forward line does. If I was a gambling man I'd say there will only be a kick of a ball in it with Galway winning a fairly open game of football. Could be a cracker. Hope I'm wrong

I'm not sure what your point is, or if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me.

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

[JoG2]

Don't have any faith in Derry getting a result against Galway, don't think we have ever beat them in Senior championship.

Last time we played them in Q's, Conor Lane gave us as sore a riding as I've ever seen from a referee.

PS sorry to intrude on an Armagh thread lol

This version of Derry has played Galway a few times, lost 2 and won 1, league / championship. So history, bogey team etc wouldn't come into my thinking. Home advantage and their inside forward line does. If I was a gambling man I'd say there will only be a kick of a ball in it with Galway winning a fairly open game of football. Could be a cracker. Hope I'm wrong

I'm not sure what your point is, or if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me.

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Injuries look like being the main factor atm if true

[screenexile]

Don't have any faith in Derry getting a result against Galway, don't think we have ever beat them in Senior championship.

Last time we played them in Q's, Conor Lane gave us as sore a riding as I've ever seen from a referee.

PS sorry to intrude on an Armagh thread lol

This version of Derry has played Galway a few times, lost 2 and won 1, league / championship. So history, bogey team etc wouldn't come into my thinking. Home advantage and their inside forward line does. If I was a gambling man I'd say there will only be a kick of a ball in it with Galway winning a fairly open game of football. Could be a cracker. Hope I'm wrong

I'm not sure what your point is, or if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me.

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Injuries look like being the main factor atm if true

I'm hearing McEvoy is the main doubt and the others should play... in that case who picks up Comer?

It's a 50/50 game even if we're fully fit. I think recent results have pushed Derry out of the top 3 and back into the group of 6 teams that could all beat eachother on a given day.

Derry/Galway/Armagh - Donegal/Tyrone - Mayo.

You'd expect all of these will get into the last 12.

[armaghniac]

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

[lurganblue]

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

[tbrick18]

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

Definately not in my opinion.
Top 3 talk was mostly coming from outside Derry, whereas the rest of us realists were/are hopeful rather than expectant. Been around Derry too long to set the bar of expectation too high.
After the Donegal defeat, and the manner of that defeat, confidence has taken a hit. Now with an abundance of injuries to key players and the fact we are away to Galway - its a case of travelling in hope rather than expectation I feel.

[imtommygunn]

Who are the injuries other than McGrogan?

[93-DY-SAM]

Who are the injuries other than McGrogan?

McEvoy & Conor Doc is the news going around. Which if true is a massive blow to us and tips the scales in the direction of Galway.

Sorry forgot to include Murphy in that who is still injured by all accounts.

[Keyser soze]

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

I would be more confident going to Kerry or Dublin and getting a result than I am about saturday due to our previous with Galway.

[Maroon Manc]

Conor Lane, didn't give a stonewall penalty on O'Boyle, which would drew the game if scored. From the same play Galway broke up the field to score a goal from Cummins.

I was down in front of that getting drenched Wasn't a pen. I do remember Lane giving Galway 2 or 3 soft frees alright that Gary Sice kicked over. Derry were hard done by but considering Galway nearly won by double scores in the end it's a stretch to say he was the difference. Neither team were going anywhere fast that year

Brendan Cawley is in the middle Sunday, the worst referee in the rotation by a country mile. Hopefully he can have as little impact on proceedings as possible but I won't hold my breath

How are Derry shaping up injury wise aside from McGrogans unfortunate long term issue?

It was Cawley who reffed last years league final? He was shocking, he reffed a game recently and came away thinking how is he still reffing in the top tier.

[JoG2]

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

I would be more confident going to Kerry or Dublin and getting a result than I am about saturday due to our previous with Galway.

Out of those 3 Galway would be the 1 to choose on the road.  This history v Galway will have no baring at all on Sat. I'd say at most 2 Derry players played in 2015 and will be involved on Sat. Pretty much all of them beat Galway in Salthill in March.

[Captain Obvious]

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

Conversation of the big three talk will be back on should Derry win this weekend.  A win will put them in the box seat to top the group and then perhaps talking on a Mayo,Tyrone or Monaghan in the last eight tie that they'll be expected to win.  Should Dublin play Kerry in one semi final you could be looking at All Ireland final spot for Derry yet.

[tbrick18]

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

Conversation of the big three talk will be back on should Derry win this weekend.  A win will put them in the box seat to top the group and then perhaps talking on a Mayo,Tyrone or Monaghan in the last eight tie that they'll be expected to win.  Should Dublin play Kerry in one semi final you could be looking at All Ireland final spot for Derry yet.

If we beat Galway with a depleted side undoubtedly those conversations will happen in the media.
But if we get beaten in the manner we did against Donegal - regardless of team on the field, the talk will be of the wheels coming off in the media.
Fine lines between being top 3 and an also ran in the media sphere.
I'd love to win, but if we lose I'm more interested in a good performance as 2 bad ones in a row will do nothing for confidence.