Sam Maguire 2024 Group 1 - Galway, Armagh, Derry, Westmeath

[Truthsayer]

Mickey lost his way in TOP level management a long time ago. Look at how Louth have come on since hammering by Dublin last year.
Word is the main attraction, especially with McKaigue, was to get Horse in..

[NAG1]

That was probably Armaghs best performance under geezer. So many players performed well on the day and the only negative was that we butchered a few other goal chances - it should have been 6 or 7 goals. It proved that when we play front foot, aggressive football we are much better and some of the tackling to turnover possession followed by quick attacks was excellent.

On the other side Derry were a complete shambles. The Mickey Harte appointment was never likely to end well and Chrissy McKaigue will have a bit of explaining to do to his team mates for appointing him. They look like a team waiting for the season to end.

How come McKaigue is taking the flack for this appointment, pretty sure he didnt ratify it on his own.

Not a fan or McK or MH. Just curious

[tbrick18]

Derry were that bad we would have won on penalties

Fair play, lol.

[yellowcard]

That was probably Armaghs best performance under geezer. So many players performed well on the day and the only negative was that we butchered a few other goal chances - it should have been 6 or 7 goals. It proved that when we play front foot, aggressive football we are much better and some of the tackling to turnover possession followed by quick attacks was excellent.

On the other side Derry were a complete shambles. The Mickey Harte appointment was never likely to end well and Chrissy McKaigue will have a bit of explaining to do to his team mates for appointing him. They look like a team waiting for the season to end.

How come McKaigue is taking the flack for this appointment, pretty sure he didnt ratify it on his own.

Not a fan or McK or MH. Just curious

You're right he mightn't have ratified it himself, but how anyone thought it was a good idea to begin with is the problem. And that's got absolutely nothing to do with his credentials as a manager which were top level.

The surprise is that it has imploded as badly as it actually has. If this was soccer he'd be gone this morning.

[statto]

In soccer parlance, Harte and Devlin have lost the changng room.

Very clear to be seen.

When you see how well Louth have pushed on under Brennan, it's clear to see they're not that tactically aware, especially how bad they've been caught out since the Donegal game. 

No Plan B.

But after the rows in Portugal it's clear to see the players have downed tools so the players must share the flack also.

The biggest thing is the fall - how far have things went south in the Derry camp in a month. Some drop off in standards.  Derry pushing for All-Ireland finals this past two years, winning Div. 1 NFL (I know it's only the league) but the self-implosion has been crazy this year.

Good chance they'll get Gallagher back......and there'll be no more trips abroad.

In soccer parlance, Harte and Devlin have lost the changng room.

Very clear to be seen.

When you see how well Louth have pushed on under Brennan, it's clear to see they're not that tactically aware, especially how bad they've been caught out since the Donegal game. 

No Plan B.

But after the rows in Portugal it's clear to see the players have downed tools so the players must share the flack also.

The biggest thing is the fall - how far have things went south in the Derry camp in a month. Some drop off in standards.  Derry pushing for All-Ireland finals this past two years, winning Div. 1 NFL (I know it's only the league) but the self-implosion has been crazy this year.

Good chance they'll get Gallagher back......and there'll be no more trips abroad.

Big Glass cut a frustrated figure yesterday afternoon and it's not like him waving arms and the likes.

Did old club rivalries come to the boil in Portugal?

I'm hearing the Slaughtneil lads had told their hurling manager they'd be concentrating on club football this year and that was one of the reasons he stepped down.

Would there not be less rivalry regarding the clubs now given that Glen are well ahead of the rest and back in the day there would have been a number of clubs in the mix for senior championship?

[tonto1888]

That was probably Armaghs best performance under geezer. So many players performed well on the day and the only negative was that we butchered a few other goal chances - it should have been 6 or 7 goals. It proved that when we play front foot, aggressive football we are much better and some of the tackling to turnover possession followed by quick attacks was excellent.

On the other side Derry were a complete shambles. The Mickey Harte appointment was never likely to end well and Chrissy McKaigue will have a bit of explaining to do to his team mates for appointing him. They look like a team waiting for the season to end.

How come McKaigue is taking the flack for this appointment, pretty sure he didnt ratify it on his own.

Not a fan or McK or MH. Just curious

You're right he mightn't have ratified it himself, but how anyone thought it was a good idea to begin with is the problem. And that's got absolutely nothing to do with his credentials as a manager which were top level.

The surprise is that it has imploded as badly as it actually has. If this was soccer he'd be gone this morning.

Glass also thought it was a good idea if you listened to his on the GAA social

[Wildweasel74]

The problem for Derry is who decided a foreign training session, then silly enough to think they could trust players staying out there another 3 days by themselves. That's were the management fell down, and the fall out been very evident ever since

[tonto1888]

The problem for Derry is who decided a foreign training session, then silly enough to think they could trust players staying out there another 3 days by themselves. That's were the management fell down, and the fall out been very evident ever since

what did happen in those extra days?

[Armamike]

What happened in Portugal?

Whatever happened in Portugal stays in Portugal. 
Until Mickey's next book.

[yellowcard]

Much too simplistic to put it down to Portugal. That has nothing to do with them repeatedly leaving no defenders in one half of the pitch. It has been a tactical disaster, anything else is just trying to pin the blame on the players.

[Armamike]

Much too simplistic to put it down to Portugal. That has nothing to do with them repeatedly leaving no defenders in one half of the pitch. It has been a tactical disaster, anything else is just trying to pin the blame on the players.

In his post match comments Mickey seems to be pinning it on the players.

[Truthsayer]

Much too simplistic to put it down to Portugal. That has nothing to do with them repeatedly leaving no defenders in one half of the pitch. It has been a tactical disaster, anything else is just trying to pin the blame on the players.

In his post match comments Mickey seems to be pinning it on the players.

He does that but suggest anything negative bout him here up to 6 weeks ago, or that him and Derry would end in tears, you get ate alive.

[meathie]

Yes but, what happened in Portugal??!

[weareros]

I'd say Derry's current problems are more to do with injuries, fatigue and abandoning the highly disciplined way they played under Gallagher. They've been hard at it for a few years now moving up the league tables, pushing themselves hard. Great footballers and will be back. Would not rule out Derry beating a 2nd placed team in the prelims. Mayo Derry would be tasty.

[marty34]

What happened in Portugal?

Whatever happened in Portugal stays in Portugal. 
Until Mickey's next book.

LOL.