Meath senior football

[Dunneroyal]

As a Meath man it pains me to say but I think Colm may have to step aside after this year. Depending of course on how the remainder of the year goes. We finished in same position as last year in league Colm got his first ever win in a Leinster game at any grade while shifting 3-12 to mid table 4th division Longford and got destroyed by a Dublin team who didn't get out of first gear. The reference to Cora Staunton and the fact she called out the tactics against Dublin in league last year as been naive before throw in was worrying. It would appear that he's more concerned over a year later with what Someone said in his old job than what he and the team was facing is extremely worrying. Colm was one of the greatest players of all time but that doesn't necessarily mean he will be a great or even average manager. We have got the easier draw for sure in Sam race. And one would expect with the talent we have we'd beat louth 50/50 v Monaghan and put up a huge showing v Kerry in navan for us to qualify.  But I feel the management are not up to it. And we have a proven winning manager waiting in the wings in cathal O'Bric now of course he must be left to his own devices for the foreseeable. But at years end I feel Meath cb have to act. Before we end up like Kildare or worse.

[thejuice]

Louths performance really put ours in a new perspective. I don't think O'Rourke would ever play as defensive as that but Louth seemed far more confident and composed than we were. This isn't a new Louth team or anything like that, largely same players we've seen over the years but the right coaching seems to make a big difference.

If we don't get O'Bric next then  I think we need to go outside the county for a manager. However I get the feeling the county board wanted O'Rourke and they'll give him another term if he wants it.

[Dunneroyal]

Louths performance really put ours in a new perspective. I don't think O'Rourke would ever play as defensive as that but Louth seemed far more confident and composed than we were. This isn't a new Louth team or anything like that, largely same players we've seen over the years but the right coaching seems to make a big difference.

If we don't get O'Bric next then  I think we need to go outside the county for a manager. However I get the feeling the county board wanted O'Rourke and they'll give him another term if he wants it.

. That's my fear. The cb wanted orurke and from what has come out lately it seems the whole process was just a sham as Colm was in line to take over should the heave against mcentee have worked. Very bad form on behalf of the delegates.
It would appear that the beat interest of the senior team is not at the heart of Meath cb. They have a chance to redeem themselves and encourage Colm to leave . We are going nowhere under his style of management. Louth performance yesterday proves that without a shadow of a doubt. 
O'Bric is an excellent coach and while it may take him a year or two to undo what has been done it would be far worse to have him coming in to a situation like Kildare are in.

[Dunneroyal]

Yesterday proved we need new management.  Cb needs to get ball rolling asap.

[From the Bunker]

Meath have been bad for a long time now. One of many that are choked by a heavy weighted Leinster Championship - geared at proving Dublin with as many advantages as possible. Colm for years sat in his Ivory Tower in RTE criticising teams for not kicking the ball in, for not doing this, for not doing that. He has found out - on the front line that Inter-county management is not as easy as it seems. Colm and his back room team are on big money. He is in no way a volunteer. He is being well paid to do his job.

[Dunneroyal]

Meath have been bad for a long time now. One of many that are choked by a heavy weighted Leinster Championship - geared at proving Dublin with as many advantages as possible. Colm for years sat in his Ivory Tower in RTE criticising teams for not kicking the ball in, for not doing this, for not doing that. He has found out - on the front line that Inter-county management is not as easy as it seems. Colm and his back room team are on big money. He is in no way a volunteer. He is being well paid to do his job.

in andys last year. Expenses was 25k. In Colm's first it was 125k. 

[Dunneroyal]

Colm must go.

[marty34]

Colm must go.

Are you Andy Mc Entee in disguise?

[Dunneroyal]

Colm must go.

Are you Andy Mc Entee in disguise?

nope. But we played hell lot better under him than we are now. We had a game plan which we don't have now, we were competitive in most games against top opponents for at least 45 mins , Kerry Derry , mayo even Dublin once under him. We could beat louth and Offaly . He had no plan b when the running game didn't work. Main problem. But we had a game plan. Under Colm it's excuse after excuse. Now he's blaming the supporters. He try's to use young team bs but doesn't mention that louth who played us off the park last week have similar age to us. He is not never has been and never will be an inter county manager. We have obric who is and who needs to be installed immediately after the Monaghan defeat as manager or we in serious trouble.

[highorlow]

Things must be very very bad when a Meath county official was asking to be in a photo with David Clifford before the match.

[Dunneroyal]

Things must be very very bad when a Meath county official was asking to be in a photo with David Clifford before the match.

. That's how it is . They absolutely are a joke. Meath football is on its knees we have better players than when we reached the super 8s and div 1, who are told not to care about results cause in 3 or 4 years they'll be winning all ire. We have the worst cb in country who serious questions hang over in more ways than one , who don't give a rats a55 about how we do. They should all be gone and never let near Meath cb again. We have players coming through with all Ireland and Leinster medals at underage who will be destroyed by incompetence not only at management level but at cb level too. A complete clear out. And let obric and Brennan work their actual experience and help rebuild Meath. Cause we will just get worse and worse under these clowns

[Bord na Mona man]

Looking at the long game, O'Rourke's appointment may be the best thing to happen to Meath.
It will show the traditionalists that the old school football they demanded is no longer fit for purpose.
The next man in charge can go in with a strong mandate now.

I see parallels with Offaly hurling in Meath football. As Offaly fell away, the old timers insisted that the solutions were to be found by looking backwards - more ground hurling, direct ball, no short passing, ignore S&C.
Sometimes it has to get very bad before it bounces back.

[Blowitupref]

Why Meath are in the state they are doesn't make a lot of sense when you look at neighbours Westmeath. They are also managed by a former player with no inter county management experience when he took on the job.  Both counties won the Tailteann Cup but Westmeath built on that to make themselves competitive in each and every game in the All Ireland group stage while Meath at the moment probably would struggle against a handful of teams if they were in the Tailteann cup again this year. 

[Dunneroyal]

Why Meath are in the state they are doesn't make a lot of sense when you look at neighbours Westmeath. They are also managed by a former player with no inter county management experience when he took on the job.  Both counties won the Tailteann Cup but Westmeath built on that to make themselves competitive in each and every game in the All Ireland group stage while Meath at the moment probably would struggle against a handful of teams if they were in the Tailteann cup again this year. 

difference is Westmeath manager is a lot younger and in fairness Jack cooney had done great in winning tc. Dolan  has tried to continue it. Orourke was a 64yo debut manager with only a very bad record over the 21s years ago in regards inter county. He had a stereotype of giving views on how football should be played which majority apart from Meath cb would call ancient and outdated. He kept to that plan and like it would always be it blew up in his face but he can't admit that.  He's trying desperately to save face. But it's over. The players and the fans deserve better.