The far right

Started by seafoid, March 28, 2024, 09:32:00 PM

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Deerstalker

I mean here is another example from today - how many more will it take ? Arrived on a small boat.

Asylum seeker guilty of hotel worker's savage murder

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgkpyr1ep4o.amp




Main Street

#2493
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 07:17:08 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 04:35:58 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMPutin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.


A lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.

Where are you getting this from?

Present day Russia is very nationalist.

Who are the hard right in Europe who are pro-Ukraine?

AfD in Germany, NR in France to name a few, are all pro-Russian.

Know a good few from the RAC music scene, and they'd all love Ukraine. Have Ukrainian banners at the gigs, etc.
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So you say you know a few from the 1980s White Power Rock against Communism scene who support Ukraine, versus the millions who inhabit every scummy hard right racist group  from all over Europe who support Russia and most probably fully funded by Russia.

Genocide Organ

Quote from: Main Street on October 24, 2025, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 07:17:08 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 04:35:58 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMPutin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.


A lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.

Where are you getting this from?

Present day Russia is very nationalist.

Who are the hard right in Europe who are pro-Ukraine?

AfD in Germany, NR in France to name a few, are all pro-Russian.

Know a good few from the RAC music scene, and they'd all love Ukraine. Have Ukrainian banners at the gigs, etc.
So you say you know a few from the 1980s White Power Rock against Communism scene who support Ukraine, versus the millions who inhabit every scummy hard right racist group  from all over Europe who support Russia.
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Azov Battalion uses right wing iconography, and there was a definite element of a hard right in Ukrainian nationalist circles. Similarly, many nationalist groups in Eastern Europe would stand with Ukraine, a lot of American mercenaries fighting with Ukraine would have been right-wing, Meloni in Italy is certainly more for Ukraine than for Russia, and I would say the same for many right groups in Italy. Sure, weren't the Russian ultra-right groups fighting for Ukraine. Or so we were told...

Hand of God

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 24, 2025, 06:25:38 PM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMIt is, but the hard left are fan boys.


The people you call fan boys actively criticise and condemn Russia and Putin, they just also happen to condemn the right wing regimes in West who played a role in creating the environment that led to the invasion.

You trying to smear people with positions they don't hold is fairly desperate. The left don't support Putin, they criticize and condemn him largely. Conflating criticism of the West, their military industrial complex, expanding borders and meddling in countries with democratically elected governments with supporting Putin or Russia is without foundation and it is a smear.

What?

As I said. What point do you have difficulty understanding?

Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Truthsayer

People's heads are away with that far right racist transphobic hystericia sweeping the US and Britain... Trump/McGregor/Farage/Robinson...
Yer man is so full of rage and hatred but no coherent argument at all.

Wildweasel74

**** needs a hammering on what he said in relation to the child alone. Problem is u give these pricks a bad hammering u up in court instead this w**k! Is there no face picture of this tosser to let Facebook do its thing?

Brendan

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 24, 2025, 11:47:38 PM**** needs a hammering on what he said in relation to the child alone. Problem is u give these pricks a bad hammering u up in court instead this w**k! Is there no face picture of this tosser to let Facebook do its thing?

Pictured and named on Facebook, doubt he has a job to worry about losing

Main Street

Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: Main Street on October 24, 2025, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 07:17:08 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 04:35:58 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMPutin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.


A lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.

Where are you getting this from?

Present day Russia is very nationalist.

Who are the hard right in Europe who are pro-Ukraine?

AfD in Germany, NR in France to name a few, are all pro-Russian.

Know a good few from the RAC music scene, and they'd all love Ukraine. Have Ukrainian banners at the gigs, etc.
So you say you know a few from the 1980s White Power Rock against Communism scene who support Ukraine, versus the millions who inhabit every scummy hard right racist group  from all over Europe who support Russia.

Azov Battalion uses right wing iconography, and there was a definite element of a hard right in Ukrainian nationalist circles. Similarly, many nationalist groups in Eastern Europe would stand with Ukraine, a lot of American mercenaries fighting with Ukraine would have been right-wing, Meloni in Italy is certainly more for Ukraine than for Russia, and I would say the same for many right groups in Italy. Sure, weren't the Russian ultra-right groups fighting for Ukraine. Or so we were told...
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You do deftly spin from one bogus Kremlin narrative towards an endless tissue of Kremlin spins.
 
Strange then that  since the Kremlin back government were ousted in 2014 in what the Kremlin claimed was a fascist coup backed by the West, all the right wing partys' vote diminished to a fraction of 1%.
 The Azov batillion has sorted itself out ages ago, is by far the most effective and disciplined fighting unit in the AFU and of course is the continued target of Kremlin toxic discharge.

The definition of what Russia calls a Nazi today and since Operation Barbarossa was somebody who does not want to be 'Russified´, someone who wants to retain their ethnicity and reject Russia/Soviet Union.

Darth Putin
The "Irish" tankie. Looks at Ukraine. Sees its large, nuclear-armed eastern neighbor that has violent, imperialist, brutal history of conquest & cultural oppression against it & decides "No parallels here, those are the good guys in this".

Genocide Organ

Quote from: Main Street on October 25, 2025, 09:20:32 PM
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: Main Street on October 24, 2025, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 07:17:08 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 04:35:58 PMA lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.

Where are you getting this from?

Present day Russia is very nationalist.

Who are the hard right in Europe who are pro-Ukraine?

AfD in Germany, NR in France to name a few, are all pro-Russian.

Know a good few from the RAC music scene, and they'd all love Ukraine. Have Ukrainian banners at the gigs, etc.
So you say you know a few from the 1980s White Power Rock against Communism scene who support Ukraine, versus the millions who inhabit every scummy hard right racist group  from all over Europe who support Russia.

Azov Battalion uses right wing iconography, and there was a definite element of a hard right in Ukrainian nationalist circles. Similarly, many nationalist groups in Eastern Europe would stand with Ukraine, a lot of American mercenaries fighting with Ukraine would have been right-wing, Meloni in Italy is certainly more for Ukraine than for Russia, and I would say the same for many right groups in Italy. Sure, weren't the Russian ultra-right groups fighting for Ukraine. Or so we were told...
You do deftly spin from one bogus Kremlin narrative towards an endless tissue of Kremlin spins.
 
Strange then that  since the Kremlin back government were ousted in 2014 in what the Kremlin claimed was a fascist coup backed by the West, all the right wing partys' vote diminished to a fraction of 1%.
 The Azov batillion has sorted itself out ages ago, is by far the most effective and disciplined fighting unit in the AFU and of course is the continued target of Kremlin toxic discharge.

The definition of what Russia calls a Nazi today and since Operation Barbarossa was somebody who does not want to be 'Russified´, someone who wants to retain their ethnicity and reject Russia/Soviet Union.

Darth Putin
The "Irish" tankie. Looks at Ukraine. Sees its large, nuclear-armed eastern neighbor that has violent, imperialist, brutal history of conquest & cultural oppression against it & decides "No parallels here, those are the good guys in this".


I agree; all this guff about de-nazification is ludicrous. And anyway, if you think I'm a tankie, you're very much mistaken.

Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Captain Scarlet

Maria Steen fans no doubt. The person we NEEDED on the ballot to represent their views...

Lookit all those youth wings of parties are loaded with creeps but Aontú usually project their image better.
them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

Rossfan

Steen/Iona/Aontú/Ganley (Bunker?) and all the other "disenfranchised" poor devils can stand in the Galway By election.
See how many votes they'll get then.
I dont think there's much appetite for returning to Catholic doctrines being State Law.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.