The far right

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Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 12:55:25 PM
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Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepoojl as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.

Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.

This is nuts. Far right is authoritarian. Far left is socialist.

Far left can be as authoritarian as far right. Don't make me list examples.

Horseshoe theory happens all the time.
Both extremes like Putin's Russia for example.

Putin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.


And he would know.

As for what Russia used to be. I remember explaining to a Ukrainian about the hard left nostalgia for the Soviet Union. They simply replied, 'I wish they could have lived it'.

Nostalgia for someone else's miserable experience. That's your tankie for you.

Hand of God

Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 12:54:39 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 10:44:28 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 09:51:21 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 09:19:55 AMThe 'far right' protestors at the Citywest are the same genepool as the 'far left' anti-water protesters out causing chaos with Paul Murphy a decade ago.

Why bother putting political labels on scumbags and toerags.


How do you know?

There was no violent disorder at the water charges protests.
Yes, there was.

Another baseless smear.

QuoteWater bottles and other missiles were thrown at gardaĆ­ on Kildare Street as protesters attempted to break through a barrier, with uniformed gardai seeking to reinforce it.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-20301892.html


Throwing water bottles is the worst you can come up with across multiple rallies? Any assaults? Any police vehicles set on fire? Any people hospitalized?

Genocide Organ

Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMPutin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.

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A lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.

Hand of God

Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMIt is, but the hard left are fan boys.


The people you call fan boys actively criticise and condemn Russia and Putin, they just also happen to condemn the right wing regimes in West who played a role in creating the environment that led to the invasion.

You trying to smear people with positions they don't hold is fairly desperate. The left don't support Putin, they criticize and condemn him largely. Conflating criticism of the West, their military industrial complex, expanding borders and meddling in countries with democratically elected governments with supporting Putin or Russia is without foundation and it is a smear.

thewobbler

Perhaps we should rename this thread to "Keep saying smear over and over again until nobody wants to engage anymore"?

Dag Dog

Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMIt is, but the hard left are fan boys.


The people you call fan boys actively criticise and condemn Russia and Putin, they just also happen to condemn the right wing regimes in West who played a role in creating the environment that led to the invasion.

You trying to smear people with positions they don't hold is fairly desperate. The left don't support Putin, they criticize and condemn him largely. Conflating criticism of the West, their military industrial complex, expanding borders and meddling in countries with democratically elected governments with supporting Putin or Russia is without foundation and it is a smear.


Eamonnca1

Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMIt is, but the hard left are fan boys.


The people you call fan boys actively criticise and condemn Russia and Putin, they just also happen to condemn the right wing regimes in West who played a role in creating the environment that led to the invasion.

You trying to smear people with positions they don't hold is fairly desperate. The left don't support Putin, they criticize and condemn him largely. Conflating criticism of the West, their military industrial complex, expanding borders and meddling in countries with democratically elected governments with supporting Putin or Russia is without foundation and it is a smear.

What?

Dag Dog

Tankie talking points 101

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 04:35:58 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMPutin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.


A lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.
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Where are you getting this from?

Present day Russia is very nationalist.

Who are the hard right in Europe who are pro-Ukraine?

AfD in Germany, NR in France to name a few, are all pro-Russian.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 06:29:49 PMTankie talking points 101

It's all bullshit and he can't provide evidence for a single one of his assertions.

Or provide a counter argument to anyone who dismantles his assertions.

Just makes the same claims over and over.

Same old numbskull. Minus the YouTube vids though.

Genocide Organ

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Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: Genocide Organ on October 24, 2025, 04:35:58 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 03:23:47 PMPutin's Russia is right wing.
It is, but the hard left are fan boys.


A lot of people of the hard right are very pro-Ukraine, see it as protecting Europe from the Asian hordes. Possibly a bit of nostalgia for the good old days of hating 'Red Russia'. Present day incarnation is just a bit imperialistic and authoritarian - but certainly not nationalist, per se.

Where are you getting this from?

Present day Russia is very nationalist.

Who are the hard right in Europe who are pro-Ukraine?

AfD in Germany, NR in France to name a few, are all pro-Russian.
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Know a good few from the RAC music scene, and they'd all love Ukraine. Have Ukrainian banners at the gigs, etc.

Armagh18

Quote from: thewobbler on October 24, 2025, 06:08:53 PMPerhaps we should rename this thread to "Keep saying smear over and over again until nobody wants to engage anymore"?
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