The far right

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Milltown Row2

Stopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!

Does he even know the actual figures?

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

RedHand88


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!

Does he even know the actual figures?



You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".

From the Bunker

Quote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!

Does he even know the actual figures?



You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".

I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.

Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.

In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.

Milltown Row2

But either side are being full on and it's basically bollocks to be honest

If either side of the this left and right actually sat down and gave a calmed approach to their argument then possibly some common ground can be found..

But this labelling stereotyping sensationalism of their rights and wrongs is getting wider and wider.

Again the blame (for me) really for that is down to social media, manipulating enough people to create division

All of us here have one go at this and no one is getting out alive, the futures not yours to concern yourself with. The planet will still carry on millions of years after we pass, wars will always be happening too.

Chill out. Enjoy your family and yourself and give a few less fucks for things outta your control
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

From the Bunker

#2224
Left and Right labels are used to cause division and muddy the waters. It also stops people giving an opinion. And this suits people in power. Nearly all of us are in the middle - want a nice life and do all the boring stuff.

You are right about most of this being out of our control and in my case - I'm in the last trimester of our lifetime.

But this does not mean that I totally sit on my hands. I constantly update my kids on political issues and what you are told is not often what happens. They are individuals and will make up their own mind. Yes, live your life - But be aware of what is happening. But, don't be obsessed with it.

johnnycool

When I hear that the Democrats in the US are Left I do wonder what exactly they are left of!

They're and out and out capitalist party, and to me that's not left in it's truest sense, that's left of the far right nut jobs wanting unbridled capitalism to shaft the poorest in society even more.

As the Labour in the UK, they're not left either and the trade unions should cut off all funding right away.


Rossfan

What yanks call "left"(sic) would be very right of centre here or Continental Europe.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Milltown Row2

Let your kids make up their own minds..

Who listens actually to their parents at that age?

I wish I had have at times but sure I knew everything lol

No one is saying not to be aware of their own personal life but I've tried that with mine and now I just let them get on with things.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

JoG2

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!

Does he even know the actual figures?



You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".

I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.

Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.

In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.

The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose

From the Bunker

Quote from: JoG2 on August 30, 2025, 04:13:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!

Does he even know the actual figures?



You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".

I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.

Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.

In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.

The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose

Sorry, I understated her - Agreed She is front and center the enemy of Palestine.

The direction of the EU has to be questioned. What started off as a common market (EEC) is now a dictatorship from non elected bureaucrats.

RedHand88

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 30, 2025, 04:13:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!

Does he even know the actual figures?



You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".

I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.

Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.

In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.

The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose

Sorry, I understated her - Agreed She is front and center the enemy of Palestine.

The direction of the EU has to be questioned. What started off as a common market (EEC) is now a dictatorship from non elected bureaucrats.

Who wasn't elected?

Rossfan

Commissioners nominated by elected Governments and approved by elected MEPs.
Their job - to run their Departments under policies approved by Governments and Council of Ministers.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

From the Bunker

Quote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 30, 2025, 04:13:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!

Does he even know the actual figures?



You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".

I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.

Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.

In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.

The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose

Sorry, I understated her - Agreed She is front and center the enemy of Palestine.

The direction of the EU has to be questioned. What started off as a common market (EEC) is now a dictatorship from non elected bureaucrats.

Who wasn't elected?

Ursula Von Der Leyen for one. Civil servants who are not elected but are hugely involved in proposing and implementing EU laws and policies. Commissioners are nominated by national governments and approved by the European Parliament.

RedHand88

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 30, 2025, 04:13:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!

Does he even know the actual figures?



You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".

I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.

Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.

In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.

The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose

Sorry, I understated her - Agreed She is front and center the enemy of Palestine.

The direction of the EU has to be questioned. What started off as a common market (EEC) is now a dictatorship from non elected bureaucrats.

Who wasn't elected?

Ursula Von Der Leyen for one. Civil servants who are not elected but are hugely involved in proposing and implementing EU laws and policies. Commissioners are nominated by national governments and approved by the European Parliament.

She's elected by MEPs who you voted for. There's nothing to really see here.

From the Bunker

Quote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 30, 2025, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 30, 2025, 04:13:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 30, 2025, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 29, 2025, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 08:26:46 PMStopped at the communists scum .. might listen later but you'd swear we are back at the McCarthy years and Ireland is over run with non Irish!

Does he even know the actual figures?



You done better than me, I never made it that far! Its hard to take someone serious when they use phrases like "being wiped out".

I always favour free speech - even when the person saying what they are saying is not agreeable. It is always good to delve into their thoughts and give them a listen. They will either cement your present views or there might be a comment that throws a spanner in you beliefs - a I never really looked at it that way moment.

Over the course of the Gaza conflict - I have read and watched a lot of Douglas Murray stuff. It's hard stuff to watch/read (especially with his pompous know all demeanour), but it gives an insight into how the propaganda and mind control of the masses work. I'm sure there are a minority of Israeli's that are victims in their own right either born into or carolled into becoming settlers and not knowing what they really were getting into.

In relation to Palestine we strangely look at Ursula Von Der Leyen as sort of the enemy, but when it comes to her dealing with home affairs and Europe's influence on Ireland we ignore or turn a blind eye.

The last paragraph doesn't make sense... She isn't some sort of enemy in relation to Palestine, she is front and centre. Her views are absolutely dispicable but not surprising for someone with influence going against the majority.
Re Europe, who exactly turns a blind eye? Certain parts of being in the EU can be questioned, but on the whole being part of it far out weighs going it alone that's for sure
Don't think I've ever thrown a punch outside of a sports field, but I'd never tire of punching that wee hoor in the bridge of the nose

Sorry, I understated her - Agreed She is front and center the enemy of Palestine.

The direction of the EU has to be questioned. What started off as a common market (EEC) is now a dictatorship from non elected bureaucrats.

Who wasn't elected?

Ursula Von Der Leyen for one. Civil servants who are not elected but are hugely involved in proposing and implementing EU laws and policies. Commissioners are nominated by national governments and approved by the European Parliament.

She's elected by MEPs who you voted for. There's nothing to really see here.

Was she originally elected by the people to the EU?