Underage squads 2024

Started by beano, March 10, 2024, 10:06:13 AM

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burdizzo

Quote from: Hurling123 on August 30, 2024, 12:00:36 PMLook at the results for the management team of last year... Talk with anyone involved ..  we lost to KILDARE. Only won Carlow game by 6 points and less to Kerry. Lost again to a very bad Offaly team..
2023 reached Q final lost to Dublin by 6.
2022 reached lenister final.

Can someone please explain how laois could keep this management team in place ????

I think a lot of the minors from last year are eligible again this year, no?

Hurling123

If you look back in recent years the minor management team have gone forward to the next level with the team. Isn't there a u19 grade being put together this coming year?? Last 3 minor managers glen and crew . Damien and Declan.
I have now been informed of some information one of the members of the management team is Shane Keegan brother in law and the same Shane was the one who chaired and ran the selection committee..
So much for Shane brining change 😭 just more of the same re appointment your friends and family.

georgedoylesrightleg


Verbal

If the person I am thinking of is Shane Keegan's brother in law, then he is a well respected (and qualified) coach.

John1

Quote from: Hurling123 on August 30, 2024, 01:53:38 PMIf you look back in recent years the minor management team have gone forward to the next level with the team. Isn't there a u19 grade being put together this coming year?? Last 3 minor managers glen and crew . Damien and Declan.
I have now been informed of some information one of the members of the management team is Shane Keegan brother in law and the same Shane was the one who chaired and ran the selection committee..
So much for Shane brining change 😭 just more of the same re appointment your friends and family.


You seem to have a very strong invested interest in the minor set-up for some reason. , are you saying it is ok to push them on up to the U19s who are every bit as important, but do not keep them near the Minors because there will be no progression. Apart from them 2 competitive last few year's what way did other teams shape up or are you short sighted

Blow-in

Quote from: Verbal on August 31, 2024, 06:37:12 AMIf the person I am thinking of is Shane Keegan's brother in law, then he is a well respected (and qualified) coach.

If its the same fella he has done an excellent job over a long period of time with the same club team. Constantly redeveloped and kept them very competitive.

I don't know what process was involved and how many parties were actually interested but who is the alternative for the job? The present u16s management? I doubt it very much, thankfully. We don't have too many knocking down the door to get involved unfortunately.

Spiritof1915

We're lucky to have Shane Keegan. He's a man that brings positivity every where he goes.

He's really trying to make a difference in laois schools both primary and secondary.  That where it's at for me. Clubs in laois have never been as proactive but the schools are starting from the bottom of the barrel.
Keegan is starting to make progress.

Verbal

Quote from: Blow-in on August 31, 2024, 02:01:49 PM
Quote from: Verbal on August 31, 2024, 06:37:12 AMIf the person I am thinking of is Shane Keegan's brother in law, then he is a well respected (and qualified) coach.

If its the same fella he has done an excellent job over a long period of time with the same club team. Constantly redeveloped and kept them very competitive.

I don't know what process was involved and how many parties were actually interested but who is the alternative for the job? The present u16s management? I doubt it very much, thankfully. We don't have too many knocking down the door to get involved unfortunately.

McGill ye?

Hurling123

Hi Yes I am invested in this group but more to the point I am really invested in the future of  laois hurling. I had spent a little bit of time with this group in the early stages and coach this age group in my club.
I attended a number u16s games and trainings since then. i have also attended a number of training and games of the current u14 and u15 panels. I attended all minor hurling games last season and a number of their training sessions.  what I seen while attending last year minor set up didn't give me any great confidence in the management group in fact, I attended Celtic challenge training/games and so say the contrast in every element was so different. A very well ran camp in my view, last year minor camp was so badly organised. There element of coaching didn't lead anywhere there was no level of a game plan and from what I can see both games lost were lost from the line, I attended a game v Westmeath one evening in the coe and what happened in front of me was telling of the management team. The game was ended early due to the ref walking of the field after he was called a number of things, there had been a number of rows and the ref had sent someone off the insults to the ref came from both laois players on the field and the management team on the sideline. So, one of the mentors decided to ref the rest of the game, again another row started.one of laois best players got injured and was out for a long period of time after. The whole thing was mad.
You will have seen I have supported Shane keegan in the past and hoped he would bring on Laois hurling, however if it is the case that he chaired a selection committee for the role on minor management for this season with his own brother-in-law applying for the role that certainly changes my views. No matter what the process is now placed into question ??    how could Shane let this happen??
I would love for Laois hurling to drive on a reach a new level. This can only be done with the right people over teams, this year's management team or certainly elements should not be there we should we able to do better our expectations should be much higher. What if your felling on this??  this year minor panel shouldn't be a bad group of players if you look at their record. They won the combined school's completion and the Celtic challenge. Their results in their 14,15 and 16 completions have not been bad by any means. So should we not strive to drive on a produce a good minor team??

John1

His brother in law did not apply though did he, he is apart of the management team , which may or may not have anything to do with the re-appointment i don't know, but i am all for giving people a chance. One year is hard to gauge it on to be fair , its not the premier league where you have people in the waiting for a well paid job. i would say 2 years maybe even 3 then slate all you want if its been poor or regressive. You could have 7/8 really strong players gone from next years team and what replaces them not near the same quality & results bound to be different . We don't have the same conveyor belt other counties have
Damien Carter spent time with the minors before he became manager as far as i am aware also, hence perhaps why he left after 1 year as manager, he had 2/3 years overall done with them , i was asking is it ok to push this management team up to 19s but do not have them over the Minors ?
100% strive to produce a good minor team. I agree and am all for the best set-ups & available resources to aid improvement and progression for the underage players but it is not realistic with the county board we are dealing with to the best of my knowledge. Good quality Schools & Club Level is important at Grassroots i feel to prepare the young fellas for the county team environment. How many Laois Schools are hurling A Tier Competitions or strongly competing B ?? Yet when they put on the Laois Jersey there is higher expectations 
Players going into County set-ups that may be strong for their club may be well off it county standard. The depth in quality is not always there, Yet we blame the managements. It is up to the management to uphold the standards there & improve to a degree yes, but it doesn't always happen across the board underage / senior 

Hurling123

Yes I agree with your views/issues with delevoping Laois hurling..from what I was told Shane chaired the review committee his brother in law was part of the review and then he applied for the position. Shane also then held interviews after . As we know Laois gaa seems to have issues with doing things correctly . In any other facade of life this couldn't be allowed to happen.

As for my comment about leaving them with the u19 there is 27 players( last year's minor panel) not eligible to play minor this year as they now move on to u19 surely last year management group have experience knowledge ect with this group ??  Who do we expect to now manage this group?

Butch Cassidy

How are the underage footballers going?

Anywhere to find squad listing, be interested to know what clubs are represented and also who is over them?

John1

I genuinely do not know who would even go for the 19s job or who to suggest, was just commenting the u19s are every bit as important as the Minors. So if you think it was bad move reinstating them to Minor Level how do you justify throwing them in with the u19s. Somebody on that 19s that may not make the squad now but could hurl senior in a few years & i do agree with you, Coaches are vital & proper genuine coaches too. Some things take time though i believe & sometimes there is never that proper progress or results we want to see.
Seen it from 90s though when Laois had somebody good involved they shafted them. Always one step forward and two steps backwards.  We all want the same outcome & may have different views, sometimes people have agendas though which sways the trail of thinking. How many good hurling men are even on the County Board now ??

Butch Cassidy

Any idea what the minor and u20 teams will be like in both hurling and football?

redsetanta

U20 team named for the game with Kildare tomorrow evening.

They wouldn't be as good as last years team.
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