Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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Brendan

Genuine question, how do Israel even know when they've found the bodies of hostages as was in the news today, they have the place flattened surely isn't much left of them?

Itchy

Quote from: Armagh18 on May 24, 2024, 04:57:59 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 03:35:00 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 02:52:20 PMHere is a times if Israel article on Hamas offering long term ceasefire from 2015.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-offers-long-term-ceasefire-in-exchange-for-end-of-blockade/amp/

We know Hamas offered to release all non combatant hostages in early October but Israel rejected it as it included not entering Gaza.

Did you bother reading any of the comments

One example:

"Hamas wants a seaport and airport to receive weapons from Iran and other states and terrorist organizartions. Only a new Gaza with a democratic regime where the people are free can be trusted. Hamas cannot."

So that is the only reason a country would want an airport/seaport. Ok.

Yes, that is the considered Fox News position.

PadraicHenryPearse

whitey post 2990 and post 3017.. still waiting on an answer..

whitey

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 06:22:17 PMwhitey post 2990 and post 3017.. still waiting on an answer..

Repost them and I'll answer them

PadraicHenryPearse

6th time of asking

are Israel animals and should they be wiped from the face of the planet whitey?

whitey

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 06:31:39 PM6th time of asking

are Israel animals and should they be wiped from the face of the planet whitey?

No and No

There would be no war in Gaza were it not for the actions of Hamas on 10/07

They acted like animals, (gang raping,
Kidnapping and murdering teenage girls) and are now using their own people as human shields.

Israel will stop short of nothing less than the complete destruction of Hamas and unfortunately Hamas have put their own civilians in the middle

Itchy

Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 06:31:39 PM6th time of asking

are Israel animals and should they be wiped from the face of the planet whitey?

No and No

There would be no war in Gaza were it not for the actions of Hamas on 10/07

They acted like animals, (gang raping,
Kidnapping and murdering teenage girls) and are now using their own people as human shields.

Israel will stop short of nothing less than the complete destruction of Hamas and unfortunately Hamas have put their own civilians in the middle

The 7 comes before the 10.

Rest of your post is horseshit

PadraicHenryPearse

#3097
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 06:31:39 PM6th time of asking

are Israel animals and should they be wiped from the face of the planet whitey?

No and No

There would be no war in Gaza were it not for the actions of Hamas on 10/07

They acted like animals, (gang raping,
Kidnapping and murdering teenage girls) and are now using their own people as human shields.

Israel will stop short of nothing less than the complete destruction of Hamas and unfortunately Hamas have put their own civilians in the middle

firstly there us no evidence of gang rape, and they are not using their people as human shields.

there is evidence over many years that Israel has raped, kidnapped (they have caged 2.2m in gaza) and murdered alot more teenage girls  amd this was all prior to Oct 7th. there has been plenty of wars in gaza, protective edge and cast lead are two where thousands women and children were murdered by Israel.

there would be no resistence to occupation without the occupation and Israel is responsible for the occupation. I could go on about Israel allowing funding for Hamas to split the palestinans or that it was Israeli funds that helped establish Hamas bit to show how Israel is responsible but I'd be wasting my time with you.

like the Israelis you are happy to dehumanise Palestinians.

you are holding Israel ( who are right now committing a genocide) to a very different standard to Hamas and should be careful as holding Israel to a different standard can be considered anti semitic or maybe that argument is only used if you criticise Israel.

whitey

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 06:59:13 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 06:31:39 PM6th time of asking

are Israel animals and should they be wiped from the face of the planet whitey?

No and No

There would be no war in Gaza were it not for the actions of Hamas on 10/07

They acted like animals, (gang raping,
Kidnapping and murdering teenage girls) and are now using their own people as human shields.

Israel will stop short of nothing less than the complete destruction of Hamas and unfortunately Hamas have put their own civilians in the middle

firstly there us no evidence of gang rape, and they are not using their people as human shields.

there is evidence over many years that Israel has raped, kidnapped (they have caged 2.2m in gaza) and murdered alot more teenage girls  amd this was all prior to Oct 7th. there has been plenty of wars in gaza, protective edge and cast lead are two where thousands women and children were murdered by Israel.

there would be no resistence to occupation without the occupation and Israel is responsible for the occupation. I could go on about Israel allowing funding for Hamas to split the palestinans or that it was Israeli funds that helped establish Hamas bit to show how Israel is responsible but I'd be wasting my time with you.

like the Israelis you are happy to dehumanise Palestinians.

you are holding Israel ( who are right now committing a genocide) to a very different standard to Hamas and should be careful as holding Israel to a different standard can be considered anti semitic or that maybe argument is only used if you criticise Israel.

Believe whatever you want

The evidence is there, you are just choosing to ignore it

You don't believe the Israelis

You don't believe the UN

Heck-You don't even believe Hamas (when they ADMITTED to doing it)

PadraicHenryPearse

#3099
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 07:08:19 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 06:59:13 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 06:31:39 PM6th time of asking

are Israel animals and should they be wiped from the face of the planet whitey?

No and No

There would be no war in Gaza were it not for the actions of Hamas on 10/07

They acted like animals, (gang raping,
Kidnapping and murdering teenage girls) and are now using their own people as human shields.

Israel will stop short of nothing less than the complete destruction of Hamas and unfortunately Hamas have put their own civilians in the middle

firstly there us no evidence of gang rape, and they are not using their people as human shields.

there is evidence over many years that Israel has raped, kidnapped (they have caged 2.2m in gaza) and murdered alot more teenage girls  amd this was all prior to Oct 7th. there has been plenty of wars in gaza, protective edge and cast lead are two where thousands women and children were murdered by Israel.

there would be no resistence to occupation without the occupation and Israel is responsible for the occupation. I could go on about Israel allowing funding for Hamas to split the palestinans or that it was Israeli funds that helped establish Hamas bit to show how Israel is responsible but I'd be wasting my time with you.

like the Israelis you are happy to dehumanise Palestinians.

you are holding Israel ( who are right now committing a genocide) to a very different standard to Hamas and should be careful as holding Israel to a different standard can be considered anti semitic or that maybe argument is only used if you criticise Israel.

Believe whatever you want

The evidence is there, you are just choosing to ignore it

You don't believe the Israelis

You don't believe the UN

Heck-You don't even believe Hamas (when they ADMITTED to doing it)

all leading Human rights organisations including those in Israel do not take videos of coerced confessions after torture as accurate.. they are propaganda for people like you


here is Israel not believing the UN

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/1708343090-israel-rejects-un-s-claim-about-idf-war-crimes-against-palestinian-women-and-girls

and then there this,  Guterres referenced Patten's assessment, but noted that it, "not being investigative in nature and given its limited duration, did not draw conclusions on attribution to specific armed groups or determine prevalence of incidents of conflict-related sexual violence during and after the attacks of 7 October. Such a determination would require a fully-fledged investigation."

here us IDF raping an 11 year old

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna12580489

boosting on twitter about raping

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailysabah.com/world/mid-east/deceased-israeli-soldier-boasted-about-raping-palestinian-woman/amp

resignation of US Srate dept. official.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231205-resigned-us-state-department-official-reveals-details-of-child-rape-case-in-israeli-prison-calls-for-accountability/amp/

subhuman - deputy major of Jerusalem
https://x.com/LexiAlex/status/1793658940712169599?t=Q5El-t7wwMhuL-CARyC85Q&s=19

whitey

So you don't accept that Hamas committed rape (and gang rape ) on 10/07

Fair enough

Believe whatever you want

PadraicHenryPearse

#3101
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 07:35:49 PMSo you don't accept that Hamas committed rape (and gang rape ) on 10/07

Fair enough

Believe whatever you want

Read the full UN report or even what i copied from Guterres in my last post..

again, the UN team "was unable to establish the prevalence of sexual violence and concludes that the overall magnitude, scope, and specific attribution of these violations would require a fully-fledged investigation."

The Patten's report notes, Israel has consistently refused to cooperate with independent UN investigators.

Patten and her team were unable to locate a single victim and did not speak to any alleged survivors of sexual violence or rape – despite making a public appeal for such survivors to come forward and speak confidentially and with assurances of safety and privacy. 

the AP had an article only this week debunking two fake rape claims by Israel. there is numerous other claims that have been debunked or were pure conjecture based on blood stains. There is one potential credible claim by A. Soussana

if you genuinely cared about rape victims or kidnapped victims you would care about the the over 3500 held in administrative detention by Israel and all Palestinians victims which you ignore as you try an wepaonise rape to dehumanise Palestinians.

whitey

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 07:46:39 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 07:35:49 PMSo you don't accept that Hamas committed rape (and gang rape ) on 10/07

Fair enough

Believe whatever you want

Read the full UN report or even what i copied from Guterres in my last post..

again, the UN team "was unable to establish the prevalence of sexual violence and concludes that the overall magnitude, scope, and specific attribution of these violations would require a fully-fledged investigation."

The Patten's report notes, Israel has consistently refused to cooperate with independent UN investigators.

Patten and her team were unable to locate a single victim and did not speak to any alleged survivors of sexual violence or rape – despite making a public appeal for such survivors to come forward and speak confidentially and with assurances of safety and privacy. 

the AP had an article only this week debunking two fake rape claims by Israel. there is numerous other claims that have been debunked or were pure conjecture based on blood stains. There is one potential credible claim by A. Soussana

if you genuinely cared about rape victims or kidnapped victims you would care about the the over 3500 held in administrative detention by Israel and all Palestinians victims which you ignore as you try an wepaonise rape to dehumanise Palestinians.


Wow

We even have a video of a teenage girl with blood and feces coming out of her arse being dragged by the hair out of a keep and that's what you come up.

God help us


PadraicHenryPearse

#3103
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 07:46:39 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 07:35:49 PMSo you don't accept that Hamas committed rape (and gang rape ) on 10/07

Fair enough

Believe whatever you want

Read the full UN report or even what i copied from Guterres in my last post..

again, the UN team "was unable to establish the prevalence of sexual violence and concludes that the overall magnitude, scope, and specific attribution of these violations would require a fully-fledged investigation."

The Patten's report notes, Israel has consistently refused to cooperate with independent UN investigators.

Patten and her team were unable to locate a single victim and did not speak to any alleged survivors of sexual violence or rape – despite making a public appeal for such survivors to come forward and speak confidentially and with assurances of safety and privacy. 

the AP had an article only this week debunking two fake rape claims by Israel. there is numerous other claims that have been debunked or were pure conjecture based on blood stains. There is one potential credible claim by A. Soussana

if you genuinely cared about rape victims or kidnapped victims you would care about the the over 3500 held in administrative detention by Israel and all Palestinians victims which you ignore as you try an wepaonise rape to dehumanise Palestinians.


Wow

We even have a video of a teenage girl with blood and feces coming out of her arse being dragged by the hair out of a keep and that's what you come up.

God help us



wow is right... that video does not show rape. I agree her pants were stained, that does not mean rape. it shows an IDF solider from the unit of the IDF that supported the mowing down of over 200 and maiming of over 9000 Palestinians in the great march.

a more recent video shows she was captured with 4 others at an army base. the video widely shared by zionist propaganda shills like yourself had fake dubbing and translations that have now been debunked. 

tonto1888

Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 07:46:39 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 07:35:49 PMSo you don't accept that Hamas committed rape (and gang rape ) on 10/07

Fair enough

Believe whatever you want

Read the full UN report or even what i copied from Guterres in my last post..

again, the UN team "was unable to establish the prevalence of sexual violence and concludes that the overall magnitude, scope, and specific attribution of these violations would require a fully-fledged investigation."

The Patten's report notes, Israel has consistently refused to cooperate with independent UN investigators.

Patten and her team were unable to locate a single victim and did not speak to any alleged survivors of sexual violence or rape – despite making a public appeal for such survivors to come forward and speak confidentially and with assurances of safety and privacy. 

the AP had an article only this week debunking two fake rape claims by Israel. there is numerous other claims that have been debunked or were pure conjecture based on blood stains. There is one potential credible claim by A. Soussana

if you genuinely cared about rape victims or kidnapped victims you would care about the the over 3500 held in administrative detention by Israel and all Palestinians victims which you ignore as you try an wepaonise rape to dehumanise Palestinians.


Wow

We even have a video of a teenage girl with blood and feces coming out of her arse being dragged by the hair out of a keep and that's what you come up.

God help us



I see you completely ignored his last paragraph.