Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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seafoid

There was a lot of shouting and roaring about politicians going to DCfor St Patrick's Day but things are changing now,.

The US administration has asked Israel to hold an election
 
https://twitter.com/naftalibennett/status/1768307925607452974
https://twitter.com/moetkacik/status/1768323059612573946
https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1768358454115131469

theskull1

It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

theskull1

#2704
How Israel controls Governments

AIPAC HAS TOO MUCH CONTROL OVER OUR GOVT

If China or Russia, or Iran funded almost EVERY member of Congress people would be freaking out.


It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

johnnycool

Quote from: theskull1 on March 15, 2024, 12:37:03 PM

I listened to quite a bit of this and have a lot of time for Finkelstein but like all intellectuals if you are going to put someone down with "I've read more books than you" then it's not a good look although that Zionist lad hadn't a puff to be fair and was winding the life out of Finkelstein.

Bottom line with all Zionists is that if the Palestinians had of been nice and gave up 1/3 of their homeland back in 1947 then the Israeli state wouldn't have needed to be so bad to them over the years really is galling, but I suppose that's the colonial mindset all over.

Also Finkelstein is entirely right to point out to Zionists that the Jewish faith has no right to a homeland of their own and if anything he doubling down that even after WW2 and the holocaust that Europeans, UK and US didn't want the Jews either and were only too willing to support the annexation of Palestine for the fledgling "Jewish" state of Israel.

And we are where we are today.

seafoid

Quote from: johnnycool on March 19, 2024, 09:13:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 15, 2024, 12:37:03 PM

I listened to quite a bit of this and have a lot of time for Finkelstein but like all intellectuals if you are going to put someone down with "I've read more books than you" then it's not a good look although that Zionist lad hadn't a puff to be fair and was winding the life out of Finkelstein.

Bottom line with all Zionists is that if the Palestinians had of been nice and gave up 1/3 of their homeland back in 1947 then the Israeli state wouldn't have needed to be so bad to them over the years really is galling, but I suppose that's the colonial mindset all over.

Also Finkelstein is entirely right to point out to Zionists that the Jewish faith has no right to a homeland of their own and if anything he doubling down that even after WW2 and the holocaust that Europeans, UK and US didn't want the Jews either and were only too willing to support the annexation of Palestine for the fledgling "Jewish" state of Israel.

And we are where we are today.
It wouldn't have mattered what the Palestinians did in 1948. If the Poles had negotiated with the Nazis in 1939 Poland would still have been destoyed. Zionism is the same.

johnnycool

Quote from: seafoid on March 19, 2024, 11:58:10 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 19, 2024, 09:13:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 15, 2024, 12:37:03 PM

I listened to quite a bit of this and have a lot of time for Finkelstein but like all intellectuals if you are going to put someone down with "I've read more books than you" then it's not a good look although that Zionist lad hadn't a puff to be fair and was winding the life out of Finkelstein.

Bottom line with all Zionists is that if the Palestinians had of been nice and gave up 1/3 of their homeland back in 1947 then the Israeli state wouldn't have needed to be so bad to them over the years really is galling, but I suppose that's the colonial mindset all over.

Also Finkelstein is entirely right to point out to Zionists that the Jewish faith has no right to a homeland of their own and if anything he doubling down that even after WW2 and the holocaust that Europeans, UK and US didn't want the Jews either and were only too willing to support the annexation of Palestine for the fledgling "Jewish" state of Israel.

And we are where we are today.
It wouldn't have mattered what the Palestinians did in 1948. If the Poles had negotiated with the Nazis in 1939 Poland would still have been destoyed. Zionism is the same.

You and I both know that, but that's the type of bullshít they're peddling.

seafoid

Quote from: johnnycool on March 19, 2024, 01:25:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 19, 2024, 11:58:10 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 19, 2024, 09:13:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 15, 2024, 12:37:03 PM

I listened to quite a bit of this and have a lot of time for Finkelstein but like all intellectuals if you are going to put someone down with "I've read more books than you" then it's not a good look although that Zionist lad hadn't a puff to be fair and was winding the life out of Finkelstein.

Bottom line with all Zionists is that if the Palestinians had of been nice and gave up 1/3 of their homeland back in 1947 then the Israeli state wouldn't have needed to be so bad to them over the years really is galling, but I suppose that's the colonial mindset all over.

Also Finkelstein is entirely right to point out to Zionists that the Jewish faith has no right to a homeland of their own and if anything he doubling down that even after WW2 and the holocaust that Europeans, UK and US didn't want the Jews either and were only too willing to support the annexation of Palestine for the fledgling "Jewish" state of Israel.

And we are where we are today.
It wouldn't have mattered what the Palestinians did in 1948. If the Poles had negotiated with the Nazis in 1939 Poland would still have been destoyed. Zionism is the same.

You and I both know that, but that's the type of bullshít they're peddling.
Yeah. Zionism is malignant narcissism. Same as Nazism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3zaA6BA_ls

Jell 0 Biafra

Jonathan Cook's latest, on the complicity of Western media with the ongoing slaughter.  Cook isn't great on every topic, but he lived  in Israel for 20 years until quite recently, and he's always worth your time on Israel/Palestine.

https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2024-03-20/media-genocide-gaza/

Itchy

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 20, 2024, 10:25:11 PMJonathan Cook's latest, on the complicity of Western media with the ongoing slaughter.  Cook isn't great on every topic, but he lived  in Israel for 20 years until quite recently, and he's always worth your time on Israel/Palestine.

https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2024-03-20/media-genocide-gaza/

Excellent article. Western mainstream media are a pathetic embarrassment to the once noble trade of journalism.

Jell 0 Biafra

UN rapporteur calls for imposing sanctions against Israel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcw9W2iy4pY


Also, echoing other posts on earlier pages, I think it's way past time for the thread title to be changed.

Main Street

#2712
Some light relief this evening with Iceland beating Israel 4-1 in the euro play offs.

The mood was not so sporting in the aftermath of the draw when Iceland coach, respected veteran Norwegian Age Hareide said among other things, "that he would have preferred not to play against Israel, but Iceland cannot refuse it due to impending punishments from UEFA. Hareide said that his opinion was that this game should not have been played because of the situation in Gaza and what the Israelis had done to women, children and other innocent citizens in the area."

naturally Israel zionists went apeshít, none other than  zionist Avram Grant entered the domain
"I saw what Iceland's coach said. I don't know him personally, but I'm upset that he should mix sports with something he has no knowledge of. But I want to ask him a few questions. First, I would like to state that I am against the victimization of ordinary citizens and it saddens me when this happens.

But one must remember that it all started with the massacre of Hamas members. So I want to ask the coach: Why didn't you say anything about the massacre in Israel on October 7? Why didn't you say: I am broken because of all the women who were raped, because of the children who were beheaded, because of the old people who were burned alive? Because of parents who were shot in front of their children,"


Hounded by Israeli reporters at press conferences before the game tonight, Age replied
"I come from a nation where freedom of speech prevails and you can express your opinions. As for this, I think some of what I said got washed up in translation and taken out of context. I am interested in politics, I know all about the hostage situation, and I also said later that the hostages should be freed, the hostilities should be stopped and peace should be established. I come from a peaceful nation and do not take a position in politics. We play against footballers and that is the most important thing. Many of Israel's players have played across Europe and I have nothing against them."

Avram Grant called out the Iceland coach as a hypocrite
Do you understand what the Israelis have been through, will you shake their hand before and after the game tomorrow?

Age Hareide
"Yes of course these are footballers like us and I don't think it's right to get into political discussions around this game. They are often misunderstood in translation. I just wanted to say, we play football and we have to play this game. The tournaments and games have been planned for a long time and we didn't know who we would face. We are also going to play with Israeli footballers, not with the Israeli people, that is the most important thing."

And then there is the result Iceland 4-1 Israel



balladmaker

A pity that it took over 32,400 dead Palestinians before Israel became alone, they should have been alone on the world stage a long, long time ago.