Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023

Started by DownFanatic, September 19, 2023, 12:35:21 PM

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Itchy

I didn't know that, I stand corrected

clarshack

Quote from: nrico2006 on November 18, 2023, 06:26:47 PM
Quote from: LC on November 18, 2023, 05:49:47 PMSimilarities it would seem between Cavan and Tyrone clubs.  Junior and intermediate teams would usually be among the strongest in Ulster but their seniors rarely break much delft in the Ulster Championship.  Errigal in the 90s and maybe Kingscourt before that were the only victors I can ever recall at senior level.

No comparison between Cavan teams and Tyrone ones at Junior or Intermediate.

15 titles to 4 in favour of Tyrone versus Cavan at Intermediate/Junior Level.

Eire90

Is there a lot of counties were league is not taking serious a seen as a warm up to championship

Christmas Lights

Quote from: Eire90 on November 19, 2023, 12:54:58 AMIs there a lot of counties were league is not taking serious a seen as a warm up to championship

Whats the point of the leagues then if they are essentially glorified challenge matches?

Hoof Hearted

Quote from: Christmas Lights on November 19, 2023, 07:41:09 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on November 19, 2023, 12:54:58 AMIs there a lot of counties were league is not taking serious a seen as a warm up to championship

Whats the point of the leagues then if they are essentially glorified challenge matches?

Wait to you see antrim next season!@
Treble 6 Nations Fantasy Rugby champion 2008, 2011 & 2012

Armagh18

Quote from: Eire90 on November 19, 2023, 12:54:58 AMIs there a lot of counties were league is not taking serious a seen as a warm up to championship
Is that not the way in every county? Wouldn't say league not taken serious it definitely is, but championship is life or death for any club that has a bit about them. Never heard of a team drinking for couple weeks after winning a league lol

clarshack

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 19, 2023, 08:23:05 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on November 19, 2023, 07:41:09 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on November 19, 2023, 12:54:58 AMIs there a lot of counties were league is not taking serious a seen as a warm up to championship

Whats the point of the leagues then if they are essentially glorified challenge matches?

Wait to you see antrim next season!@

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Hoof Hearted

Quote from: clarshack on November 19, 2023, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 19, 2023, 08:23:05 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on November 19, 2023, 07:41:09 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on November 19, 2023, 12:54:58 AMIs there a lot of counties were league is not taking serious a seen as a warm up to championship

Whats the point of the leagues then if they are essentially glorified challenge matches?

Wait to you see antrim next season!@

Tell us more

16 team division one with no relegation or promotion from division 2
Treble 6 Nations Fantasy Rugby champion 2008, 2011 & 2012

DownFanatic

Ulster JFC Semi Final Results

Blackhill (Monaghan) 2-10 Fintona (Tyrone) 0-07
Arva (Cavan) 1-11 Lisnaskea (Fermanagh) 0-04

InnocentByStander

Quote from: DownFanatic on November 20, 2023, 09:14:41 AMUlster JFC Semi Final Results

Blackhill (Monaghan) 2-10 Fintona (Tyrone) 0-07
Arva (Cavan) 1-11 Lisnaskea (Fermanagh) 0-04

Pretends to be shocked...

Armagh18

Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 20, 2023, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on November 20, 2023, 09:14:41 AMUlster JFC Semi Final Results

Blackhill (Monaghan) 2-10 Fintona (Tyrone) 0-07
Arva (Cavan) 1-11 Lisnaskea (Fermanagh) 0-04

Pretends to be shocked...
Up blackhill!

SouthOfThe Bann

This is Blackhill's 3rd Ulster Junior Club final in  8 years.

Do they deliberately get relegated just to get a handy championship win.

This should be questioned more than the fact Arva are a division 1 side?

I personally will be supporting the underdogs Arva this weekend.


Armagh18

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on November 20, 2023, 07:02:30 PMThis is Blackhill's 3rd Ulster Junior Club final in  8 years.

Do they deliberately get relegated just to get a handy championship win.

This should be questioned more than the fact Arva are a division 1 side?

I personally will be supporting the underdogs Arva this weekend.


Intermediate and junior would be strong in Monaghan. Could be a multitude of reasons Blackhill get relegated. Often when a team wins a championship the following year they struggle, hard to get the huge buy in and effort needed for lads to hit top form required to win a championship 2 years in a row, older lads may decide to step away on a high after winning championships, lads who maybe had plans to travel etc may have put them on hold for a chance to win something. Maybe Blackhill are just one of those teams who yoyo, see it all the time in all sports teams that are too good for the lower tier but struggle at higher level.

Armagh18

Not sure how a division 1 team is gonna be an underdog in a junior match though.

intheknowhow

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 20, 2023, 07:21:03 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on November 20, 2023, 07:02:30 PMThis is Blackhill's 3rd Ulster Junior Club final in  8 years.

Do they deliberately get relegated just to get a handy championship win.

This should be questioned more than the fact Arva are a division 1 side?

I personally will be supporting the underdogs Arva this weekend.


Intermediate and junior would be strong in Monaghan. Could be a multitude of reasons Blackhill get relegated. Often when a team wins a championship the following year they struggle, hard to get the huge buy in and effort needed for lads to hit top form required to win a championship 2 years in a row, older lads may decide to step away on a high after winning championships, lads who maybe had plans to travel etc may have put them on hold for a chance to win something. Maybe Blackhill are just one of those teams who yoyo, see it all the time in all sports teams that are too good for the lower tier but struggle at higher level.

Correct. Monaghan intermediate is hard and difficult. 10 teams, 2 relegated from senior and 2 from junior creates a very difficult league to stay in. Blackhill themselves have about 30 adult players in total....