Man Utd Thread:

[Jeepers Creepers]

Roy Keane in? Give your heads a wobble lads. As said before. ETH needs to change his formation quickly to suit the panel not his 'style' of play.

[brokencrossbar1]

The biggest mistake that United have made is having Ferguson about so much. I know they can't do anything about it but honestly until he is completely off side then his influence will continue to permeate through the club. Harking back to the 'good old days',  etc etc.

Here's the thing,  historically United have had 2 periods,  1950's to late 1960's under Busby and Ferguson era. Outside of that they have been bang average. A few FA Cups. These two
Managers won 18 out of 20 leagues and all their Euro titles. That says a lot. Outside of that they have fluctuated around upper mid table in the league and picked off a few FA/League cups. They should be better than they are, and the set up is dreadful,  but in real terms the success is reflective of the majority of their history,  pre 1992.

As for Keane....please do...would be beautiful!!!

[statto]

Roy Keane in? Give your heads a wobble lads. As said before. ETH needs to change his formation quickly to suit the panel not his 'style' of play.

What formation do you think would suit these lads?

[statto]

Is RVN not going to end up taking this on an interim basis when ETH gets the road after a few more poor performances? ETH wasn't given the boot in the summer as there was no candidate they wanted to appoint who was available/willing to take the job, I wouldn't have thought the goalposts have moved much since then.

[Armagh18]

The biggest mistake that United have made is having Ferguson about so much. I know they can't do anything about it but honestly until he is completely off side then his influence will continue to permeate through the club. Harking back to the 'good old days',  etc etc.

Here's the thing,  historically United have had 2 periods,  1950's to late 1960's under Busby and Ferguson era. Outside of that they have been bang average. A few FA Cups. These two
Managers won 18 out of 20 leagues and all their Euro titles. That says a lot. Outside of that they have fluctuated around upper mid table in the league and picked off a few FA/League cups. They should be better than they are, and the set up is dreadful,  but in real terms the success is reflective of the majority of their history,  pre 1992.

As for Keane....please do...would be beautiful!!!

Mind reading that one of the first things Ferguson done was to road Busby from about the place.

[Ethan Tremblay]

It would be blockbuster stuff if Keane was manager, but it wouldn't work out, I think everyone knows that. 

I think there would be a genuine fear factor in players working under him, there would be no 'meeting a player half way' or letting them get away with blue murder as they do.  He would need someone to keep him in check constantly, a decent number 2, but that is fairy tail stuff, it won't happen. 

I genuinely feel the team are playing to their full ability, which is now scrapping for fourth place.  A 3-0 loss to a team at their level, or above, should no longer come as a surprise, it is where they are at. 

[NAG1]

While Ferguson is alive Roy will never be near it and to be truthful I doubt he would ever be near it regardless.

The new regime couldn't find anyone suitable during the summer or ETH would have been gone. So I don't see that this has changed in any way since, they are more likely to stick with him in the short to medium term and try to work through it.

The problem will arise if and when (which kind of looks like it already) the players down tools.

[statto]

It would be blockbuster stuff if Keane was manager, but it wouldn't work out, I think everyone knows that. 

I think there would be a genuine fear factor in players working under him, there would be no 'meeting a player half way' or letting them get away with blue murder as they do.  He would need someone to keep him in check constantly, a decent number 2, but that is fairy tail stuff, it won't happen. 

I genuinely feel the team are playing to their full ability, which is now scrapping for fourth place.  A 3-0 loss to a team at their level, or above, should no longer come as a surprise, it is where they are at. 

If you are playing someone at your level you shouldn't be losing to them 3-0 at home.  It's the manner of the losses and general performances that would be most concerning, Onana despite his critics is probably their player of the year to date. 

[Ethan Tremblay]

It would be blockbuster stuff if Keane was manager, but it wouldn't work out, I think everyone knows that. 

I think there would be a genuine fear factor in players working under him, there would be no 'meeting a player half way' or letting them get away with blue murder as they do.  He would need someone to keep him in check constantly, a decent number 2, but that is fairy tail stuff, it won't happen. 

I genuinely feel the team are playing to their full ability, which is now scrapping for fourth place.  A 3-0 loss to a team at their level, or above, should no longer come as a surprise, it is where they are at. 

If you are playing someone at your level you shouldn't be losing to them 3-0 at home.  It's the manner of the losses and general performances that would be most concerning, Onana despite his critics is probably their player of the year to date. 

No you shouldn't, but as I said, it shouldn't come as a surprise either.  The point I am making is teams get beat by teams at their own level, or a level above.  United have fallen to Tottenhams level. 

The days of "come on lads, its Spurs" are over at United.  This has now turned into a fixture they would not be certain of winning anymore ffs.

[Blowitupref]

The biggest mistake that United have made is having Ferguson about so much. I know they can't do anything about it but honestly until he is completely off side then his influence will continue to permeate through the club. Harking back to the 'good old days',  etc etc.

Here's the thing,  historically United have had 2 periods,  1950's to late 1960's under Busby and Ferguson era. Outside of that they have been bang average. A few FA Cups. These two
Managers won 18 out of 20 leagues and all their Euro titles. That says a lot. Outside of that they have fluctuated around upper mid table in the league and picked off a few FA/League cups. They should be better than they are, and the set up is dreadful,  but in real terms the success is reflective of the majority of their history,  pre 1992.

As for Keane....please do...would be beautiful!!!

Mind reading that one of the first things Ferguson done was to road Busby from about the place.

Wasn't Busby in a simliar honorary position as Ferguson and was attendance for the 1992/93 season to see United win their first league title for 20 plus years.

[NAG1]

The biggest mistake that United have made is having Ferguson about so much. I know they can't do anything about it but honestly until he is completely off side then his influence will continue to permeate through the club. Harking back to the 'good old days',  etc etc.

Here's the thing,  historically United have had 2 periods,  1950's to late 1960's under Busby and Ferguson era. Outside of that they have been bang average. A few FA Cups. These two
Managers won 18 out of 20 leagues and all their Euro titles. That says a lot. Outside of that they have fluctuated around upper mid table in the league and picked off a few FA/League cups. They should be better than they are, and the set up is dreadful,  but in real terms the success is reflective of the majority of their history,  pre 1992.

As for Keane....please do...would be beautiful!!!

Mind reading that one of the first things Ferguson done was to road Busby from about the place.

Wasn't Busby in a simliar honorary position as Ferguson and was attendance for the 1992/93 season to see United win their first league title for 20 plus years.

He was exactly and was about the ground and training centre quite a bit during that time.

I don't think Ferguson has the influence or sway that he once had at the club.

[AustinPowers]

The biggest mistake that United have made is having Ferguson about so much. I know they can't do anything about it but honestly until he is completely off side then his influence will continue to permeate through the club. Harking back to the 'good old days',  etc etc.

Here's the thing,  historically United have had 2 periods,  1950's to late 1960's under Busby and Ferguson era. Outside of that they have been bang average. A few FA Cups. These two
Managers won 18 out of 20 leagues and all their Euro titles. That says a lot. Outside of that they have fluctuated around upper mid table in the league and picked off a few FA/League cups. They should be better than they are, and the set up is dreadful,  but in real terms the success is reflective of the majority of their history,  pre 1992.

As for Keane....please do...would be beautiful!!!

Mind reading that one of the first things Ferguson done was to road Busby from about the place.

Wasn't Busby in a simliar honorary position as Ferguson and was attendance for the 1992/93 season to see United win their first league title for 20 plus years.

He was exactly and was about the ground and training centre quite a bit during that time.

I don't think Ferguson has the influence or sway that he once had at the club.

I'm not so sure

Didn't  Fergie  instigate Ronaldo's return? "Come home , son"..."OK Boss",... was the gist according to interviews  from both

In hindsight, United weren't doing that badly (in comparison with now, anyway)  with  Ole , but Ronaldo ,even with his goals,  seemed to upset  the  team's chakras or something . Things went downhill from there. And really really downhill in ole's last few matches. They have never recovered since

[Blowitupref]

The biggest mistake that United have made is having Ferguson about so much. I know they can't do anything about it but honestly until he is completely off side then his influence will continue to permeate through the club. Harking back to the 'good old days',  etc etc.

Here's the thing,  historically United have had 2 periods,  1950's to late 1960's under Busby and Ferguson era. Outside of that they have been bang average. A few FA Cups. These two
Managers won 18 out of 20 leagues and all their Euro titles. That says a lot. Outside of that they have fluctuated around upper mid table in the league and picked off a few FA/League cups. They should be better than they are, and the set up is dreadful,  but in real terms the success is reflective of the majority of their history,  pre 1992.

As for Keane....please do...would be beautiful!!!

Mind reading that one of the first things Ferguson done was to road Busby from about the place.

Wasn't Busby in a simliar honorary position as Ferguson and was attendance for the 1992/93 season to see United win their first league title for 20 plus years.

He was exactly and was about the ground and training centre quite a bit during that time.

I don't think Ferguson has the influence or sway that he once had at the club.

Clearly hasn't but the English tabloids as they do will run with a story every now and then that Ferguson still has influence in how the club are ran.

One who has a say now is Jim Radcliffe he said this back in March when asked about the timeframe to make United truly competitive again.

"It's not a light switch. It's not an overnight change – it's going to take two or three seasons.

"You have to ask the fans for some patience. I know the world these days likes instant gratification but that's not the case with football really. It's not a 10-year plan. The fans would run out of patience if it was a 10-year plan. But it's certainly a three-year plan to get there.

[Look-Up!]

The biggest mistake that United have made is having Ferguson about so much. I know they can't do anything about it but honestly until he is completely off side then his influence will continue to permeate through the club. Harking back to the 'good old days',  etc etc.

Here's the thing,  historically United have had 2 periods,  1950's to late 1960's under Busby and Ferguson era. Outside of that they have been bang average. A few FA Cups. These two
Managers won 18 out of 20 leagues and all their Euro titles. That says a lot. Outside of that they have fluctuated around upper mid table in the league and picked off a few FA/League cups. They should be better than they are, and the set up is dreadful,  but in real terms the success is reflective of the majority of their history,  pre 1992.

As for Keane....please do...would be beautiful!!!

I'd agree with all that. Remember when OGS got the job, saying he'd refuse to park in the manager's spot because that was Sir Alex's! Pass me the bucket FFS!!! Plus all the reverence for past players, class of 92, all that BS. Even the likes of Keane and Neville trashing players in the media but they're almost beyond criticism from within the club. Someone like Ferguson would have called crap like that out straight away. He admonished the players, no one else! They need a strong man in charge who wants to write his history into the club and to hell with the lads from yesteryear.

[Jeepers Creepers]

Fernandez red card rescinded. Not sure if this is a good thing lol