Man Utd Thread:

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Cunny Funt

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Beat Liverpool on Sunday and lose to the bottom club in the league. Uniteds inconsistency back with a bang.

Rotation was required with a busy schedule though in hindsight 6 changes from Sunday was too many as from it was a very flat performance. Sheffield United got a bit of luck on their opener the nudge on DeGea was ignored and Martial disallowed goal was more of a keeper error than a foul and the winner deflected off Tuanzebe but it was luck they deserved as they worked much harder for the 3 points than Man United did.

I said it when United was top that the objective is to finish in the top 4 for 2 seasons in a row for the first time since Ferguson retired and the longer this season goes the bigger the battle will be to reach that objective.

Rich Ricci

Dismal performance tonight. Look lost for ideas against a compact well organised defence. Too often they were trying to play 1-2s in tight areas at the edge of the box and ended up going nowhere.

De Gea has to do better for the 1st goal. Matic has been poor enough this season anytime he's played.

snoopdog

Ole picked a weakened team. Martial still gets game time for some reason. Tuanzebe had a nightmare. Rashford looked injured, didnt look capable tonight. Pogba was playing as a holding midfielder. Realistically utd were never going to challenge, this performance was always in this team. Arsenal southampton and everton up next.  City could be out of sight. 

gallsman

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Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 27, 2021, 10:35:10 PMSheffield United got a bit of luck on their opener the nudge on DeGea was ignored and Martial disallowed goal was more of a keeper error than a foul

Hi Rio  ::)

These were covered extensively at both HT and FT and even after BT's expert official told him he was wrong, Rio was still banging on about it. Rio was then left to cling to the fact that the ref perhaps blew early on the SU goal and it should have gone to VAR.

Sharp didn't impede de Gea at all. Maguire, donkey that he is, in a genuine effort to go for the ball jumped into the keeper and fouled him.

Milltown Row2

Foul on keeper by Maguire, not the worst foul but there was contact.

Utd keeper at fault for first! Missed it completely
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Cunny Funt

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Quote from: gallsman on January 27, 2021, 11:37:25 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 27, 2021, 10:35:10 PMSheffield United got a bit of luck on their opener the nudge on DeGea was ignored and Martial disallowed goal was more of a keeper error than a foul

Hi Rio  ::)

These were covered extensively at both HT and FT and even after BT's expert official told him he was seeing, Rio was still banging on about it. Rio was then left to cling to the fact that the ref perhaps blew early on the SU goal and it should have gone to VAR.

Sharp didn't impede de Gea at all. Maguire, donkey that he is, in a genuine effort to go for the ball jumped into the keeper and fouled him.
Game of opinions.

I watched the game on bein sports and their experts said the opposite.  Was very little difference in the two incidents their main point.  As I said already the bit of luck Sheffield United got was deserved as fought much harder for the points and I'd hope Rio agreed with that.

StPatsAbu

Was always City's league to lose since Liverpool completely shit the pants. Whoever finishes above city wins and whoever finishes above Liverpool takes 2nd.

GiveItToTheShooters

Quote from: StPatsAbu on January 28, 2021, 12:57:17 AM
Was always City's league to lose since Liverpool completely shit the pants. Whoever finishes above city wins and whoever finishes above Liverpool takes 2nd.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 27, 2021, 10:35:10 PM
Beat Liverpool on Sunday and lose to the bottom club in the league. Uniteds inconsistency back with a bang.

Rotation was required with a busy schedule though in hindsight 6 changes from Sunday was too many as from it was a very flat performance. Sheffield United got a bit of luck on their opener the nudge on DeGea was ignored and Martial disallowed goal was more of a keeper error than a foul and the winner deflected off Tuanzebe but it was luck they deserved as they worked much harder for the 3 points than Man United did.

I said it when United was top that the objective is to finish in the top 4 for 2 seasons in a row for the first time since Ferguson retired and the longer this season goes the bigger the battle will be to reach that objective.
All the mancs changing their tune after getting embarrased by the worst team in the league tonight.
Shortest "title challenge" in history. Those two Cup Finals against Liverpool really took it out of them

Cunny Funt

Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 28, 2021, 02:06:18 AM
All the mancs changing their tune after getting embarrased by the worst team in the league tonight.
Shortest "title challenge" in history. Those two Cup Finals against Liverpool really took it out of them

Not much more embarrassing than Liverpool losing their long unbeaten home run against Burnley.  Can't speak for St Pat but my tune has been the same throughout.

GiveItToTheShooters

Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 28, 2021, 02:47:04 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 28, 2021, 02:06:18 AM
All the mancs changing their tune after getting embarrased by the worst team in the league tonight.
Shortest "title challenge" in history. Those two Cup Finals against Liverpool really took it out of them

Not much more embarrassing than Liverpool losing their long unbeaten home run against Burnley.  Can't speak for St Pat but my tune has been the same throughout.
It actually is. Liverpool's run lasted almost 4 years, whereas you got embarrassed by not only the worst team in the league but one of the worst teams in PL history.

gallsman

Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 28, 2021, 12:09:50 AM
Quote from: gallsman on January 27, 2021, 11:37:25 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 27, 2021, 10:35:10 PMSheffield United got a bit of luck on their opener the nudge on DeGea was ignored and Martial disallowed goal was more of a keeper error than a foul

Hi Rio  ::)

These were covered extensively at both HT and FT and even after BT's expert official told him he was seeing, Rio was still banging on about it. Rio was then left to cling to the fact that the ref perhaps blew early on the SU goal and it should have gone to VAR.

Sharp didn't impede de Gea at all. Maguire, donkey that he is, in a genuine effort to go for the ball jumped into the keeper and fouled him.
Game of opinions.

I watched the game on bein sports and their experts said the opposite.  Was very little difference in the two incidents their main point.  As I said already the bit of luck Sheffield United got was deserved as fought much harder for the points and I'd hope Rio agreed with that.

There was a world of difference - that's not a matter of opinion, you just have to use your eyes. Sharp was behind de Gea as they both ran in the direction of the goal. Maguire was in front of the SU keeper and backing in (again, he was genuinely trying to win the ball) to the on-rushing keeper coming out to meet it. How are they the same thing??

OgraAnDun

DDG was pushed in the back as he jumped, Maguire and the Sheffield keeper challenged for the ball and Maguire had eyes on the ball the whole time. Either both were fouls or neither were (and if one was a foul, it wasn't Maguire). I'd say if the ref had blown his whistle a few seconds later, the goal would have stood via VAR.

United were awful anyway. No RW was shown up again, and Martial was useless. I don't think any United fan expected to win the title, but to have the first hole put into the ship by Sheffield United is frustrating.

NAG1

No hiding from that performance it was rank.

You could go through the whole team and pick fault with every single one of them. We all know that DeGea was fouled for the first goal it is obvious for anyone to see, Sharp not looking at the ball shoves the keeper out from below his jump. Clever play but a foul all day long, not even a debate about it.

That being said there was no response in the team after it really, no kick into life.

I think it has got to the stage were he cant play Martial, Rashford and Greenwood all together, not one of them wants to hold the ball up and let the team get up the pitch. All 3 continually giving the ball away and even against poor opposition this kills the momentum of the team.

Have said it and will say it again AWB is not good enough going forward, how many possessions did he have last night? Yes he can defend but was there any threat coming down his side worth defending?

Don't think anyone was on here crowing that United were going to win the league as those of us who watch them closely realise this type of performance is in them. It is funny though to see the scousers losing their sh*t over a united result again, it kind of like they are scared of becoming a one title wonder like Leicester  ;D


Cunny Funt

Quote from: gallsman on January 28, 2021, 07:34:07 AM

There was a world of difference - that's not a matter of opinion, you just have to use your eyes. Sharp was behind de Gea as they both ran in the direction of the goal. Maguire was in front of the SU keeper and backing in (again, he was genuinely trying to win the ball) to the on-rushing keeper coming out to meet it. How are they the same thing??

The matter of opinion is in regards to this so called expert official on BT Sports. No nudge on DeGea and he may have fisted the ball away, Sharp knew what he was doing in that incident. The Sheff Utd keeper made an error and got away with it and the ref blew too early on it also.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 28, 2021, 03:28:51 AM
It actually is. Liverpool’s run lasted almost 4 years, whereas you got embarrassed by not only the worst team in the league but one of the worst teams in PL history.

A run that nobody expected Burnley to end and their odds to win was longer than Sheff Utd winning in Old Trafford. 

United losing matches they were expected to win is nothing new in recent seasons. Same in the Champions league this season, capable of beating PSG away only to lose afterwards to Basaksehir which proved to be a very damaging defeat. How damaging yesterdays defeat will be in the effort to finish in the top 4 remains to be seen.


laoislad

Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 28, 2021, 08:21:18 AM
Quote from: gallsman on January 28, 2021, 07:34:07 AM

There was a world of difference - that's not a matter of opinion, you just have to use your eyes. Sharp was behind de Gea as they both ran in the direction of the goal. Maguire was in front of the SU keeper and backing in (again, he was genuinely trying to win the ball) to the on-rushing keeper coming out to meet it. How are they the same thing??

The matter of opinion is in regards to this so called expert official on BT Sports. No nudge on DeGea and he may have fisted the ball away, Sharp knew what he was doing in that incident. The Sheff Utd keeper made an error and got away with it and the ref blew too early on it also.



After watching it this morning I don't think either incident was really a foul. Though it is interesting that you thought it wasn't a foul by Maguire, but in an identical situation last season between VVD and DeGea you did think it was a foul.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 19, 2020, 05:25:18 PM
United started off all right and then conceded a goal from yet another lapse in concentration on a set piece. Correct call to disallow that 2nd goal as DeGea was fouled. United have probably missed their best chance of scoring with Pereira missing that sitter. I'd still be surprised if this game doesn't finish in a 2 or 3-0 defeat.
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